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originally posted by: AfterInfinity
The historical etymology of the word 'spirit' is easily accessible to those with even an amateur knowledge of the internet.
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AfterInfinity
That seems to be a bit of a cop out.(oh, you have completely changed what you said it the post)
When the body appears to be dead and is pronounced dead the breath has stopped entering it but the breath (which Aphorism has stated is 'spirit') has escaped the body.
So there's no point discussing with this you, and Aphorism has often expressed similar sentiments.
Would you say that you are the body or would you say that you are what animates the body? - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...
originally posted by: Aphorism
The body animates itself. "Breath" is a word describing the air we inhale and exhale.
Have you ever seen a body that has expelled the air for the last time? Have you noticed that it does not move itself? It ceases to move when the breath is no longer going in and out of it.
Have you seen an animated body without air going in and out of it?
I am asking about Aphorisms definition and would like to explore what 'breath' means to him and whether he has considered the points I have offered.
Spirit was "the breath", which ather than signify ghosts and spirits, should signify life, living etc.
originally posted by: Aphorism
What points are you offering?
Spirit is the breath and without the breath going in and out of the body there is no life.
Are you the life or are you the body that the breath animates?
Spirit: ORIGIN Middle English: from Anglo-Norman French, from Latin spiritus ‘breath, spirit,’ from spirare ‘breathe.’
You have stated that 'spirit is the breath'. When the body you see moving stops moving because breath has ceased and been expelled for the last time maybe you will see that you are the breath (spirit/life) and not the body. I am not telling you this is how it is or that this is true - I am offering a new way of looking at 'spirit being the breath' (which you yourself stated).
Spirit was "the breath", which ather than signify ghosts and spirits, should signify life, living etc.
originally posted by: Aphorism
I think I might understand. But air is not life nor an example of life. I don't think one is able to inhale or exhale without the necessary bodily faculties to do so. When one takes his last breath it is because he has stopped breathing, not because his spirit or air has left him without anything to breathe.
It is obvious from the post above that you believe you are the body only and that it is you (as a body) that breaths the air in and out. I am looking at it a little differently - what if you are the spirit of life (the breath) and you (as air/breath) enter into a body and then leave the body when the body dies. I do not expect you to believe what I suggest as I do not know either - it is just another way of looking at the idea of 'spirit - a spirit reorientation.
APHORISM, you say that you believe that you are the body? Who are "you"? Who is this "you" that you are associating with the body?
Once you say "I am MY body", you are admitting that a body is something that you have, not something that you are.
You could argue against this saying, "well you can easily say 'I am MY spirit' proving that the spirit is something that you have not 'what you are', however,
I will ask then, when you remove identification,
"I am MY body", "I am MY mind", "I am MY thoughts", "I am MY emotions", "I am MY spirit"
when you do not Identify the "I" with anything, what is the "I" really?