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Rethinking Northwoods.
is it beyond comprehension that tactics similar to Operation Northwoods might have been used in relation to the 9/11 attacks in order to create "a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat?"
Since it would seem desirable to use legitimate provocation as the basis for US military intervention in Cuba a cover and deception plan, to include requisite preliminary actions such as has been developed in response to Task 33 c, could be executed as an initial effort to provoke Cuban reactions. Harassment plus deceptive actions to convince the Cubans of imminent invasion would be emphasized. Our military posture throughout execution of the plan will allow a rapid change from exercise to intervention if Cuban response justifies.
“I have absolutely zero recollection of it. But I sure as hell would have rejected it,” McNamara said, adding, “I really can’t believe that anyone was proposing such provocative acts in Miami. How stupid!”
The title should be, why are you trying to defend a government whom has a history of not telling the truth UNLESS they get caught? -
You damn well know the reason people bring up Northwoods! It is a declassified document that shows just how far those in the US government are willing to go to push their agenda!
Do you think just because they got caught they have found Jesus??? -
Perhaps the only accurate assumption you have made was the "Operations Northwoods" did NOT have anything to do with 9/11!
What about the Tuskegee Experiment? Hmmmmm? I guess you have an excuse for the US government giving people in Guatamala syphilis too??? How about Operation Gladio, or the "Gulf of Tonkin"? Do you have excuses for those too?
Let me tell you something! I am a US citizen and I damn sure am disgusted with the things my government has gotten away with! Your average citizen gets 10 years in prison for much less, while those in the government get a slap on the ass and end up still making money on the MSM shilling for their masters -
My question to you is this, "Why are you defending a country and government that you don't even belong too?"???????!!!!!!
Like i said, it is a "distraction"
My response IS on topic!
I am calling you out for you saying that because 9/11 is not the SAME incident as Northwoods
that those whom disagree with official story of 9/11 are wrong for bringing up Northwoods at all!!!!!
Reread your thinly veiled attempt in your own OP!!!
I understand you are mad because I called you out on it, but to whine that I am trying to derail you thread is total BS!
Did you or did you not even agree with the first person whom responded to this post that 9/11 and Northwoods were two different things? -
Operation Northwoods and 9/11 are two different things.
Being that you did that, is this topic about Northwoods, or discrediting those whom do not believe the "Official Story"?
Not to mention, that in your original OP you tried to validate your insane opinion by bringing up Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura?
So now what?
OtherSideOfTheCoin
reply to post by seeker1963
My response IS on topic!
Really so suggesting that i excuse giving people syphilis in inhuman experiments was on topic.
really?
I am calling you out for you saying that because 9/11 is not the SAME incident as Northwoods
Of course its not the same incident, because Northwoods was not even a incident it was a suggestion and in any case that suggestion looked nothing like what happened on 9/11.
that those whom disagree with official story of 9/11 are wrong for bringing up Northwoods at all!!!!!
Yes because Operation Northwoods and 9/11 have nothing to do with each other as such Operation Northwoods does not belong in a debate about 9/11 so in this thread I am explaining why they they have nothing to do with each other.
Reread your thinly veiled attempt in your own OP!!!
errrr what?
I understand you are mad because I called you out on it, but to whine that I am trying to derail you thread is total BS!
What?
you were off-topic, its off-topic to say i ask me "why i am defending a country and government i do not belong to", its off-topic to say I am find dishing out syphilis like candy or even mention Operation Gladio.
your off topic
and no i am not "mad" at anything.
Did you or did you not even agree with the first person whom responded to this post that 9/11 and Northwoods were two different things? -
Ahh i get the problem i am not being clear.....
Operation Northwoods and 9/11 are two different things.
Two totally different things, 9/11 was a terrorist attack and Operation Northwoods was a proposal for a number of false flag attacks in 1962.
Are we clear on that now, yes northwoods and 9/11 are two different things, they do not belong in the same debate.
Being that you did that, is this topic about Northwoods, or discrediting those whom do not believe the "Official Story"?
sigh....
still not being clear enough....
this is about how Operation Northwoods and 9/11 have nothing to do with each other, as such those skeptical of the offical narrative should not include it in their debates regarding 9/11.
Not to mention, that in your original OP you tried to validate your insane opinion by bringing up Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura?
My "insane opinion"
No it is quite simply just a fact that (ohh really hate repeating myself) Operation Northwoods and 9/11 have nothing to do witch each other.
the second video is probably a better example of what I am getting at a video that talks about Operation Northwoods in the context of 9/11. This simply should not matter because guess what.
Operation northwoods and 9/11 h....
So now what?
you know what
...have nothing to do with each other.
The distraction is YOU refusing to admit you F'd up by trying to say that those whom bring up Northwoods in a comparison to 9/11 are doing it for reasons other than the ones you are trying to explain!
OtherSideOfTheCoin
It should not even be mentioned when debating 9/11, it should be something that the "truther" just dont mention because its such a distance topic. Like i said, it is a "distraction"
This is a problem i keep running into whenever i make a thread on 9/11 civility quickly takes a back seat.
Yes I know why you guys bring it up, you bring it up to point out how elements within the US government at one time had a plan that involved the use of false flags.
But as I have said that should not matter because anyone with a little imagination could do just that and besides Operation Northwoods and the events of 9/11 are in no way similar because Northwoods does not actually involve the killing of American citizens and d billions of dollars wort damage to infrastructure and the a economy.
They are not similar in anyway Operation Northwoods should not be the opening gambit to lose change for example because it has nothing to do with 9/11 in anyway.
You're digging too deep and missing the whole point. The reason why "Operation Northwoods" gets brought up and compared to 9/11 is because "Operation Northwoods" was thought-up and designed to carry out false-flag attacks on U.S. soil and abroad, and blame those attacks on another country to go to war with that country.
9/11 also was a false-flag attack on U.S. soil to go to war with another country(s). But in this case, the "enemy" wasn't just one country. The "enemy" spans multiple countries, and now a good portion of this country (U.S.). Hell, we even invaded at least one country (Iraq) that had nothing to do with 9/11, and based on false pretenses. -
That's how 9/11 and "Operation Northwoods" are related. At its simplest, both = false-flag attacks blamed on other countries to go to war with those countries. Except one was carried out, the other was not. And JFK payed the price for it.
Another reason why "Operation Northwoods" is brought up is to show how diabolical our military industrial complex was 50-years ago, and that it's not out of the question nor impossible to think that another false-flag operation could be designed or carried out.
They designed a false-flag operation before. They can and will do it again.
Yes i would agree but again it is a hell of a big jump to go from saying they designed a false flag once before to saying 9/11 could also have been a false flag.