The Joy of the Pharaohs

reply to post by Skyfloating


Ive read many authors who think the egyptians had this exact knowledge, including Manly P Hall who wrote in the 1930's about it in his 'magnum opis', the secret teachings of all ages (read it, even this aside its probably one of the best books you'll ever read...) but he and others say that they knew what sperm looked like and thats why later cultures (such the Sufis) said that the number 9 represented man and was therefore shaped like a spermatazoon, this passed to the Arabs then to us as our current symbol for the number 9, apparently ... H P Blavatsky is of the same persuasion. Very interesting.

Kantzveldt
reply to post by abeverage

 

Yes your man in the video is right it's the hieroglyph for pouring seen in the OP.

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And it still looks like a Sperm I know I know just coincidence...Not being anywhere near an expert in Hieroglyphics tell me the meaning of that symbol is it pouring or used in a specific instance like pouring the water of life? Then show me where it is used again because it all about context.

If this symbol is always used for a fertility rite or something similar then don't you think it is overly ironic that it looks like sperm? And couldn't it just be that it represented sperm from an older more advance civilization that used pictographic language and that the meaning was lost in antiquity?

reply to post by Danbones


The pharaohs used to get 'pleasured by hand'... In public on the day that the nile reached its peak, bringing life to the crops, they would be seen giving out their life juice to mark the occasion and bless the harvest, then some would cut their penis and let their blood flow onto the ground, the Mayans apparenly done the same thing and yes i suppose it is a type of sex magic but many thelema followers may disagree, but its a similar technique to some forms of sex magic still practiced...

reply to post by abeverage


It always has the context of an offering of the water of life, as can be seen below were little Ankhs pour out rather than water, in the OP the hieroglyph for poured offering forms part of a word, it's placement there isn't a standard aspect of such iconography, though the poured offering itself is, so maybe in that case a happy coincidence, or they meant it as an additional metaphor, who knows, but i see were you're coming from.

reply to post by Bybyots


Actually why suspect vandalism other than your opinion? There are several other depictions that show ejaculate...
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And in the original the depth of carving looks the same, typically the vandalism does not fit with the carve. You are only offering conjecture here Bybyots...[image removed]

reply to post by abeverage

There are several other depictions that show ejaculate...

Several other different steles representing the same thing? Or other images of the same stele?

I don't think that it was vandalized recently, the antiquities of ancient Egypt have a long history of vandalism.

Bybyots


Several other different steles representing the same thing? Or other images of the same stele?

He posted two very different steles.

Elijah23
[ the secret teachings of all ages (read it, even this aside its probably one of the best books you'll ever read...)

I have read it, a long time ago. It was alright.

Bybyots
reply to post by abeverage

 

There are several other depictions that show ejaculate...

Several other different steles representing the same thing? Or other images of the same stele?

I don't think that it was vandalized recently, the antiquities of ancient Egypt have a long history of vandalism.

Take a good look at the image that I posted they are not the same carvings, one is in Karnak and I do not know where the other is from. I can find a few more if you like?

You can relent or keep up this irrelevant arguement, as again this is unsubstantiated conjecture especially when you look at this image there is a cup catching...wait for it...nah I won't say it!
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reply to post by Skyfloating

He posted two very different steles.

No, he didn't.



With the same blemishes?

"Pull" away.

reply to post by Bybyots


Bybyots...The OP posted that second one...please look again at what I posted...

Oh and here it is a little more detailed where you can see the cup capturing the...
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Yep...NOT the same...
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reply to post by abeverage


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Okay, I see it, doesn't clear much up for me only because when I see that hieroglyph that I take to be an 'O" I think lotus flower and not sperm. I still do and can't help but think that human intervention is involved with the first stele from Luxor. The second one that you posted seems to have "ejaculate" that is cooperating with gravity more recognizably than in the first (don't even go there; they both look strange).

My eye tells me that the one from Luxor has been vandalized but I am left wondering why both penises on both steles seem to have been lit on fire. Or touched a lot, which I suppose is more likely.



ETA: Well, I've looked at probably all of the "ejaculating Min steles" to be found on Google Images. None of them have the same hieroglyphics under Min's penis so the OPs stele seems the only one with a microscopic sperm.

As far as my "unsubstantiated" argument is concerned, ancient Egypt had hieroglyphic writing and it's antiquities have a long and well substantiated history of being vandalized, ancient Egypt did not, on the other hand, have microscopes nor the microbiology texts describing the other significant discoveries they made along with the sperm.

Have a good weekend.

reply to post by Bybyots


Actually the touching makes sense to me. Women wishing for fertility rubbing the fertility God's ah.... fertile parts. Makes perfect sense, thanks! I couldn't figure out the black spots either.

Touching, touching with their filthy, filthy little hobbit..er humans handses...

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Kantzveldt
reply to post by abeverage

 

It always has the context of an offering of the water of life, as can be seen below were little Ankhs pour out rather than water, in the OP the hieroglyph for poured offering forms part of a word, it's placement there isn't a standard aspect of such iconography, though the poured offering itself is, so maybe in that case a happy coincidence, or they meant it as an additional metaphor, who knows, but i see were you're coming from.

Thank you for the Acknowledgment Kantz it is at least interesting if not entirely coincidental and frankly I have never trusted Hawass to be to quick in dismissing any alternative theories. All sciences should embrace the possibility we are not the only peak of civilization on this planet.

Either ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics contain a symbolic device that looks uncannily like sperm, or the ancient Egyptians had microscopes.

Just wanted to keep us on track.

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Thank you guys for reopening this thread. It is among the most interesting I have seen, especially pertaining to AE,

what is this loop that looks like a "9" on the hierglyph?



What is the "etymology" (for lack of a better term?) of that particular symbol in Egyptian pictographic writing?