Alternative news for Ukraine (the things we learn in Greece)

I havent seen in western media, these news yet.. So I am going to make a list with them and you can search and investigate it further.

1st) The Ukraine airforce from Cremea, allianced with Russia today!! So they join the revolution, against the westerns. link

2nd) China threatens USA, that IF THEY DARE to impliment restrictions or any moves against Russia, they will demand ALL the american debt in pure gold, or else war. Also if they DARE to bring the matter into UN, China will VETO. links
They also provide this link I originally said NATO, but it was a mistake by my side.. sorry about it, I corrected it, its UN not NATO.

3rd) Russian ultimatum till tuesday for all crimea forces to give up their guns, or else they die. link

4th)its not that important, but it should be... Greek church aligns with the Russian church ALWAYS... so we have the supreme priest in the Greek church to DAMN "ANATHEMA" pope and the rest of the new world order alliances priests and churches. www.youtube.com...
Now things are even more wilder... between priests.

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reply to post by Ploutonas

Wow I need to look that China ultimatum up. That is major if true, I was wondering how they would get pulled into this.

reply to post by inquisitive1977


ROFL...China will veto something in NATO - how does that work then??

That's not "alternative news" - that is made up bullshirt!

reply to post by Ploutonas


ya i just brought up some china stuff in another thread...i just said literally..watch for them to demand the debt paid back....good idea posting this thread...there is definitely other stuff going on and the world is on edge...everyone is plotting and scheming....

here is how... I forgot to post this news...

Ukraine army, friendly with the west forces, moving into Cremea right now and they ask help from NATO.

Now if NATO is about to send forces into Crimea to war, they must make a kind of a meeting and vote... All the nato members.

link

I only posted you the today news, we have so many news...

2nd) Talibans and nazi ukranians moved with busses into crimea area and they fight with locals in the streets, link

3rd) A Ukranian navy fleet that was in Greece, against western alliances (one of the forces that abandoned their guns against Russia) departured today from greece in an emergency way link

We have so many news, I pick the most red alert.

All I have to say is LOL China. What a joke.

reply to post by Ploutonas


Your first point was discussed in other threads today so we have that one.

Point 2 about China threatening America if we put sanctions on Russia, or try to get UN/NATO involvement is sourced from the Greek news to a Russian news site. For some reason I can't get the Russian to translate, but not sure I would trust it..

That's as far as I have gotten so far.

Ploutonas
here is how... I forgot to post this news...

Ukraine army, friendly with the west forces, moving into Cremea right now and they ask help from NATO.

Now if NATO is about to send forces into Crimea to war, they must make a kind of a meeting and vote... All the nato members.

......

sigh


China is NOT a member of NATO - so they do not get a "vote" - hence this is made up bullshirt

From all news searches I can find China's official stance is wishy washy, to put it in technical terms. lol

They support countries independence and are agaist outside interference yet they accept there are reasons we are here in this case.

They seem to be against the actions but want to support Russia against the west in some way. No where did anyone mention an ultimatum of demanding all debt if sanctions are imposed but your link.

I doubt that is actually true right now. Although wouldn't be surprised if Russia could get more Chinese support later, that demand seems highly unlikely at any point though.

Ploutonas



2nd) China threatens USA, that IF THEY DARE to impliment restrictions or any moves against Russia, they will demand ALL the american debt in pure gold, or else war. Also if they DARE to bring the matter into NATO, China will VETO. links
They also provide this link

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I have to say,.
if China is makin threats like that behind our backs
then well L O L
i say to china.. You want your gold.. come and get it..
fluff.. pure fluff

Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by inquisitive1977

 

ROFL...China will veto something in NATO - how does that work then??

That's not "alternative news" - that is made up bullshirt!

He or She meant U.N. which should be fairly obvious to you no doubt seeing as they veto things in the U.N. all the time. Also if you had read the link....... You know, "UN Sanctions" Veto.. I think they would do that actually.


Course the news sites don't seem to reliable on first glance either.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


Good point on NATO, I stopped reading too early at ghe debt claim. Didn't even notice the claim china could veto a NATO decision.

Think they meant UN but either way it does seem made up. lol

sorry its not NATO, but United Nations. Its a misstranslation from my side, sorry, I am also dyslexic.. I read so many news and my mind is foggy.

Well i only wish the world joins against America, supporting the commies of old and offering "socialism" as the only alternative to evil capitalism and evil empire. Then i want to see all the countries doing this start losing their most basic human rights, then the dissolution of the UN,then the military boot crushing any opposition,and then...Productivity...FOREVER.


Big Brother will be watching.

cosmicexplorer
reply to post by Ploutonas

 

ya i just brought up some china stuff in another thread...i just said literally..watch for them to demand the debt paid back....good idea posting this thread...there is definitely other stuff going on and the world is on edge...everyone is plotting and scheming....

they don't get to "demand" the debt to be paid back - all marketable US debt has a maturity date or similar - you can get your money back then. or you can sell the debt to someone else.

China only has about 8% of US Govt debt - about 25% of all foreign held debt - which is itself 53% of US debt is owed domestically - 47% or so is held off shore

now they could sell off all that debt cheaply, which would certainly hurt - but it would also hurt them since they peg their currency to the US$.

And besides - China would be delighted to see Russia humbled - they have plenty of border disputes with them themselves!!

inquisitive1977
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

 

Good point on NATO, I stopped reading too early at ghe debt claim. Didn't even notice the claim china could veto a NATO decision.

Think they meant UN but either way it does seem made up. lol

Yeah well Russia could veto it at the UN itself - it doesn't take china - so even that is a stupid "claim"

I fixed the original guys, its UN not Nato... It was my mistake. And you didnt know the other news?

RUSSIA is being kicked out from the g8. link

If a member of the UN makes without permision actions like this, does they allow them to vote? Turkey for example asks permisions all the time to take things... lol

China gets involved...complete internal economic collapse in just a few days, they already have problems (like everyone else) they need our resourses and trade so they talk tough. The russian navy is a shadow of the joke it once was, and the only chance they have is a ground war and that would be messy. As expansion, control, re claiming and the rest goes, if it was the US, and we were messing with our neighbor, I would not want russia sticking its nose where it does not belong. This has bad potiental, but I stand on the fence, but armed and alert....and watching....

reply to post by teslahowitzer


you right, russia does not have the american navy, but nobody can take over russia with boats... And the american army or the alliances, must be very keen with cold conditions. lol