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FlyersFan
jtma508
So what exactly do all you parental basement dwelling, armchair generals suggest we do?
Economic sanctions .... Have Russia blackballed from the G-8 and the G-20.
Get the European Union involved. They can get their energy from other sources.
The UN is in New York, we can put a freeze on any Russian 'diplomats' being able to go through NYC airports.
Those are the kinds of things a POTUS can do ... and SHOULD be doing.
Oh ... and I do not live with my mother, nor in the basement.
camaro68ss
jtma508
reply to post by camaro68ss
Once again tough guy.... what would you suggest we do under the circumstances? Do you have a plan that would back Putin down? Is there conceivably any action that would stop what seems to be inevitable?
With Ukraine permission and VIA the defense pact signed in 1994. The USA starts to mass troops in the eastern side of Ukraine. Take key military choke points to stop the Russians from just walking in and setting up shop. It’s that simple. You can’t fight the Russians with words. Do as Reagan would do. Go toe to toe but don’t throw punches.edit on 3-3-2014 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
not doing anything risks a ww2 hitler style slow takeover.edit on 3-3-2014 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
Kram09
What is this insane suggestion by some people of moving military forces and going toe to toe with Russia?
And what happens when NATO and Russia are eyeball to eyeball and neither side refuses to back down? One spark and the whole thing goes up in flames and we're all thrown into the abyss.
People should be looking to the outbreak of the First World War here rather than the old cliched Hitler/appeasement analogies, to see just how a situation can escalate out of control.
MrSpad
camaro68ss
jtma508
reply to post by camaro68ss
Once again tough guy.... what would you suggest we do under the circumstances? Do you have a plan that would back Putin down? Is there conceivably any action that would stop what seems to be inevitable?
With Ukraine permission and VIA the defense pact signed in 1994. The USA starts to mass troops in the eastern side of Ukraine. Take key military choke points to stop the Russians from just walking in and setting up shop. It’s that simple. You can’t fight the Russians with words. Do as Reagan would do. Go toe to toe but don’t throw punches.edit on 3-3-2014 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
not doing anything risks a ww2 hitler style slow takeover.edit on 3-3-2014 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
That would simply make matters worse as it would make the Russians look weak and give them no room to save face without going to war. Ukraine is more than capable of defending itself against what Russia could afford to thow at it. As of right now just the threat of Western economic actions are causing havock with the Russian economy and markets. Including a run on trading Russian Roubles for Dollars in Russia and a selling off of Russian stocks. That is a good sign that the Russian people have zero confidence in this entire thing. And Reagan would not toss US troops forward he was much more of fund and aid the rebels kind of guy. What the West is doing right now is just what they need to do.
MrSpad
camaro68ss
jtma508
reply to post by camaro68ss
Once again tough guy.... what would you suggest we do under the circumstances? Do you have a plan that would back Putin down? Is there conceivably any action that would stop what seems to be inevitable?
With Ukraine permission and VIA the defense pact signed in 1994. The USA starts to mass troops in the eastern side of Ukraine. Take key military choke points to stop the Russians from just walking in and setting up shop. It’s that simple. You can’t fight the Russians with words. Do as Reagan would do. Go toe to toe but don’t throw punches.edit on 3-3-2014 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
not doing anything risks a ww2 hitler style slow takeover.edit on 3-3-2014 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
That would simply make matters worse as it would make the Russians look weak and give them no room to save face without going to war. Ukraine is more than capable of defending itself against what Russia could afford to thow at it. As of right now just the threat of Western economic actions are causing havock with the Russian economy and markets. Including a run on trading Russian Roubles for Dollars in Russia and a selling off of Russian stocks. That is a good sign that the Russian people have zero confidence in this entire thing. And Reagan would not toss US troops forward he was much more of fund and aid the rebels kind of guy. What the West is doing right now is just what they need to do.
angelchemuel
Well, I'm not sure the UK is talking to the US. At the same time Obama said Russia had broken International Law etc, Cameron has said there will be no UK military intervention or financial sanctions or otherwise against Russia....he wants to talk.
London couldn't afford financial sanctions against Russia atm anyhow.
Jane
camaro68ss
MrSpad
camaro68ss
jtma508
reply to post by camaro68ss
Once again tough guy.... what would you suggest we do under the circumstances? Do you have a plan that would back Putin down? Is there conceivably any action that would stop what seems to be inevitable?
With Ukraine permission and VIA the defense pact signed in 1994. The USA starts to mass troops in the eastern side of Ukraine. Take key military choke points to stop the Russians from just walking in and setting up shop. It’s that simple. You can’t fight the Russians with words. Do as Reagan would do. Go toe to toe but don’t throw punches.edit on 3-3-2014 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
not doing anything risks a ww2 hitler style slow takeover.edit on 3-3-2014 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
That would simply make matters worse as it would make the Russians look weak and give them no room to save face without going to war. Ukraine is more than capable of defending itself against what Russia could afford to thow at it. As of right now just the threat of Western economic actions are causing havock with the Russian economy and markets. Including a run on trading Russian Roubles for Dollars in Russia and a selling off of Russian stocks. That is a good sign that the Russian people have zero confidence in this entire thing. And Reagan would not toss US troops forward he was much more of fund and aid the rebels kind of guy. What the West is doing right now is just what they need to do.
haha, you want to do economic actions? ok, you cut russia off. Now russia dumps all USA bonds and china joins starting a massive panic and selloff. now what? This is what happens when you become the biggest debter nation in the world.edit on 3-3-2014 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
camaro68ss
MrSpad
camaro68ss
jtma508
reply to post by camaro68ss
Once again tough guy.... what would you suggest we do under the circumstances? Do you have a plan that would back Putin down? Is there conceivably any action that would stop what seems to be inevitable?
With Ukraine permission and VIA the defense pact signed in 1994. The USA starts to mass troops in the eastern side of Ukraine. Take key military choke points to stop the Russians from just walking in and setting up shop. It’s that simple. You can’t fight the Russians with words. Do as Reagan would do. Go toe to toe but don’t throw punches.edit on 3-3-2014 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
not doing anything risks a ww2 hitler style slow takeover.edit on 3-3-2014 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
That would simply make matters worse as it would make the Russians look weak and give them no room to save face without going to war. Ukraine is more than capable of defending itself against what Russia could afford to thow at it. As of right now just the threat of Western economic actions are causing havock with the Russian economy and markets. Including a run on trading Russian Roubles for Dollars in Russia and a selling off of Russian stocks. That is a good sign that the Russian people have zero confidence in this entire thing. And Reagan would not toss US troops forward he was much more of fund and aid the rebels kind of guy. What the West is doing right now is just what they need to do.
haha, you want to do economic actions? ok, you cut russia off. Now russia dumps all USA bonds and china joins starting a massive panic and selloff. now what? This is what happens when you become the biggest debter nation in the world.edit on 3-3-2014 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
jtma508
reply to post by camaro68ss
Once again tough guy.... what would you suggest we do under the circumstances? Do you have a plan that would back Putin down? Is there conceivably any action that would stop what seems to be inevitable?
thesaneone
And Uncle Sam farts when he shoots and eats said animals.
Bank Rossii poured dollars into the currency market, with traders estimating sales of about $10 billion, and raised interest rates after the threat of Western sanctions against Russia sent the ruble to a record low.
Policy makers are stepping up efforts to shore up the ruble as investor demand for Russian assets dries up after President Vladimir Putin’s military forces took over parts of neighboring Ukraine. The ruble sank 1.8 percent against the dollar today, more than any other currency tracked by Bloomberg, while the benchmark Micex stock index plunged more than 11 percent and benchmark bond yields soared.
“So far, the panic goes on,” Dmitry Dorofeev, a money manager at BCS Financial Group in Moscow, said by e-mail. “The central bank’s decision should help support the ruble in current conditions, but it’s very negative for debt.”
FlyersFan
They can get their energy from other sources.