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originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Mahogani
a reply to: DBCowboy
At what cost, DB?
I understand supporting Israel and the Jewish people, I do too. But I do not support that agenda at the cost of thousands of innocent civilian lives.
Do you? Is it worth genocide for Jewish people in Israel to feel "safe"?
Do you support co-existence, or just the existence of one side?
Who are they going to "genocide"?
Terrorists?
Why wouldn't EVERYONE be for that?
originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: DBCowboy
Israel and the existence of the Jewish people and sovereign state of Israel.
Sure, but how about equality, freedom and democracy for everyone in Israel?
Of course, Palestinians are not the only ones advocating a “river-to-sea” discourse. It has more or less been the official policy of the Israeli state since 1967, when it occupied the West Bank, Gaza and the Golan Heights. Since then, every Israeli government has pushed for the expansion of illegal Israeli settlements in the occupied territories, rendering the two-state solution an impossibility well before the Oslo peace process began.
Within the Israeli political space, from the far-right to the liberal left, the idea of sharing the land with the Palestinians as equals was never on the table.
The problem Israel has faced – like other settler-colonial powers – has been that Indigenous populations rarely if ever go gentle into that good night. Revisionist Zionism founder Ze’ev Jabotinsky would not have disagreed with Tlaib’s argument in the immediate aftermath of the Hamas attack, that the “suffocating, dehumanising conditions” of permanent occupation inevitably “lead to resistance”.
Exactly a century ago, in his 1923 manifesto, The Iron Wall, he advocated overwhelming Jewish power to turn Palestine from the river to the sea into a Jewish ethnostate precisely because of the inevitability of Palestinian resistance.
‘From the river to the sea’ and the decolonisation of our collective future
originally posted by: Mahogani
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Mahogani
a reply to: DBCowboy
At what cost, DB?
I understand supporting Israel and the Jewish people, I do too. But I do not support that agenda at the cost of thousands of innocent civilian lives.
Do you? Is it worth genocide for Jewish people in Israel to feel "safe"?
Do you support co-existence, or just the existence of one side?
Who are they going to "genocide"?
Terrorists?
Why wouldn't EVERYONE be for that?
15,400 civilians so far, 6,000+ children.
I don't care about Hamas terrorists, I'm talking about Palestinian civilians.
Are you saying those are the same to you?
Do you support co-existence or just the existence of one side?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Mahogani
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Mahogani
a reply to: DBCowboy
At what cost, DB?
I understand supporting Israel and the Jewish people, I do too. But I do not support that agenda at the cost of thousands of innocent civilian lives.
Do you? Is it worth genocide for Jewish people in Israel to feel "safe"?
Do you support co-existence, or just the existence of one side?
Who are they going to "genocide"?
Terrorists?
Why wouldn't EVERYONE be for that?
15,400 civilians so far, 6,000+ children.
I don't care about Hamas terrorists, I'm talking about Palestinian civilians.
Are you saying those are the same to you?
Do you support co-existence or just the existence of one side?
I've said repeatedly that if the palestinians surrender, release all the hostages, and recognize Israel as a sovereign nation, then there could be peace and no more war.
originally posted by: Mahogani
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Mahogani
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Mahogani
a reply to: DBCowboy
At what cost, DB?
I understand supporting Israel and the Jewish people, I do too. But I do not support that agenda at the cost of thousands of innocent civilian lives.
Do you? Is it worth genocide for Jewish people in Israel to feel "safe"?
Do you support co-existence, or just the existence of one side?
Who are they going to "genocide"?
Terrorists?
Why wouldn't EVERYONE be for that?
15,400 civilians so far, 6,000+ children.
I don't care about Hamas terrorists, I'm talking about Palestinian civilians.
Are you saying those are the same to you?
Do you support co-existence or just the existence of one side?
I've said repeatedly that if the palestinians surrender, release all the hostages, and recognize Israel as a sovereign nation, then there could be peace and no more war.
When you say Palestinians, you mean Hamas, right? Not the entire civilian population?
So you support co-existence and a two state solution?
I do too.
How many civilians, in your mind, is it justified to kill in order to get there?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Mahogani
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Mahogani
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Mahogani
a reply to: DBCowboy
At what cost, DB?
I understand supporting Israel and the Jewish people, I do too. But I do not support that agenda at the cost of thousands of innocent civilian lives.
Do you? Is it worth genocide for Jewish people in Israel to feel "safe"?
Do you support co-existence, or just the existence of one side?
Who are they going to "genocide"?
Terrorists?
Why wouldn't EVERYONE be for that?
15,400 civilians so far, 6,000+ children.
I don't care about Hamas terrorists, I'm talking about Palestinian civilians.
Are you saying those are the same to you?
Do you support co-existence or just the existence of one side?
I've said repeatedly that if the palestinians surrender, release all the hostages, and recognize Israel as a sovereign nation, then there could be peace and no more war.
When you say Palestinians, you mean Hamas, right? Not the entire civilian population?
So you support co-existence and a two state solution?
I do too.
How many civilians, in your mind, is it justified to kill in order to get there?
Dunno, when are they going to surrender, recognize Israel as a sovereign nation and release all the hostages?
originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Mahogani
What civilians? hamas is palestinians and palestinians are hamas, they all want Israel dead, get it, or you are still following the hamas propaganda.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Mahogani
Oh, sorry.
Didn't realize you wanted Israel to surrender and allow bombings of their civilian populations.
I wasn't AWARE that you were cool with palestinians going into Israel and raping, torturing and killing over 1400 people!
My bad.
originally posted by: Mahogani
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Mahogani
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Mahogani
a reply to: DBCowboy
At what cost, DB?
I understand supporting Israel and the Jewish people, I do too. But I do not support that agenda at the cost of thousands of innocent civilian lives.
Do you? Is it worth genocide for Jewish people in Israel to feel "safe"?
Do you support co-existence, or just the existence of one side?
Who are they going to "genocide"?
Terrorists?
Why wouldn't EVERYONE be for that?
15,400 civilians so far, 6,000+ children.
I don't care about Hamas terrorists, I'm talking about Palestinian civilians.
Are you saying those are the same to you?
Do you support co-existence or just the existence of one side?
I've said repeatedly that if the palestinians surrender, release all the hostages, and recognize Israel as a sovereign nation, then there could be peace and no more war.
When you say Palestinians, you mean Hamas, right? Not the entire civilian population?
So you support co-existence and a two state solution?
I do too.
How many civilians, in your mind, is it justified to kill in order to get there?
originally posted by: Mahogani
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Mahogani
Oh, sorry.
Didn't realize you wanted Israel to surrender and allow bombings of their civilian populations.
I wasn't AWARE that you were cool with palestinians going into Israel and raping, torturing and killing over 1400 people!
My bad.
I'm not, that's just in your head. And when you wrote it it became a strawman.
originally posted by: Mahogani
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Mahogani
Oh, sorry.
Didn't realize you wanted Israel to surrender and allow bombings of their civilian populations.
I wasn't AWARE that you were cool with palestinians going into Israel and raping, torturing and killing over 1400 people!
My bad.
I'm not, that's just in your head. And when you wrote it it became a strawman.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Mahogani
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Mahogani
Oh, sorry.
Didn't realize you wanted Israel to surrender and allow bombings of their civilian populations.
I wasn't AWARE that you were cool with palestinians going into Israel and raping, torturing and killing over 1400 people!
My bad.
I'm not, that's just in your head. And when you wrote it it became a strawman.
Spare me.
When we fought Germany, civilians got killed.
I don't blame the allies, I blame the Nazi's.
originally posted by: Mahogani
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Mahogani
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Mahogani
Oh, sorry.
Didn't realize you wanted Israel to surrender and allow bombings of their civilian populations.
I wasn't AWARE that you were cool with palestinians going into Israel and raping, torturing and killing over 1400 people!
My bad.
I'm not, that's just in your head. And when you wrote it it became a strawman.
Spare me.
When we fought Germany, civilians got killed.
I don't blame the allies, I blame the Nazi's.
Thank you for that.