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The Empire tries to strike back

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posted on Aug, 15 2023 @ 05:51 AM
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Without trying to sound harsh I believe most anyone who knows how some of this stuff goes down knew once Grusch spoke out the worms of disinformation and slander would be coming out of the woodwork of certain segments of government.

Be advised there are several "F" bombs dropped in the video so those with sensitive word afflictions should take a pass on the video. The discussion is about how Jeremy and George met and vetted Grusch to include some of the intimidation tactics that has been used on him to make his life "frustrating"...to say the least... You have to feel sorry for anyone who knows the difference between right and wrong and stands up against wrong doing by any government ....May we never be faced with such a choice.




Veteran intelligence officer and Air Force veteran David Grusch knew there were risks when he decided to blow the whistle on secret - and highly illegal - programs which for decades have hidden evidence of non-human technology recovered from crash sites. Grusch met and interviewed more than 40 people who have seen the evidence first hand. That information has previously been conveyed to Congress in sworn testimony delivered behind closed doors. Grusch had previously been targeted for retribution by higher-ups in the intelligence community, which is why he filed whistleblower complaints with the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, then shared his story with journalists and with a House committee. Last week, insiders provided tips to a reporter about Grusch's previous struggles with PTSD in what appears to be am attempt to besmirch his reputation, but also as a warning to other potential whistleblowers. In this episode, Jeremy and George dig into the sliming of Grusch, why it was done, and what might happen next.


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posted on Aug, 15 2023 @ 07:38 AM
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If that is all the mud they have to throw at David, he is looking pretty clean. I don't see anything there to provide reasonable grounds to discredit David.

Jeremy and George come across as knowing more than what has been publicly declassified, yet are careful in how they handle this hot potato. They have made it this far in their reporting career and don't want to screw it up.



posted on Aug, 15 2023 @ 07:49 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

It is possible this was a pre-planned smear campaign. It certainly helps his credibility along for those who want to believe, and hurts his credibility for those who don't. The typical dialectic.



posted on Aug, 15 2023 @ 08:07 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

Grusch is legit and is telling the truth as per all of my retired Special Agent contacts. They are trained at looking at his facial movement as they were all criminal investigators into white collar crimes for our government. This includes Secret Service, DOD, FBI and US Customs and See I Eh.
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posted on Aug, 15 2023 @ 08:35 AM
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ahhh yes. Knapp(ster) and Corbell to the re$cue

I guess they're done squeezing Lazar for all he's worth and have moved on to greener pastures



posted on Aug, 15 2023 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: Waterglass

My daddy used to say 'he believes what he said'. Doesn't mean I have to.

Show me.



posted on Aug, 15 2023 @ 09:03 AM
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a reply to: kwakakev

People want to bag on Corbell and Knapp because they have investigated woo.

They both are entitled to make a living, as high as they can achieve.

I don't know that either has done anything wrong in their behaviour in reporting on UFOs, Lazar, Skinwalker etc.
I think Jeremy is a personal, friendly, positive and likable guy. Knapp too, but Jeremy has more charisma.

I don't know, maybe their detractors are envious.



posted on Aug, 15 2023 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

I really, really feel sorry for Grusch. He shoulda kept his mouth shut.



posted on Aug, 15 2023 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: CoyoteAngels



I don't know, maybe their detractors are envious.


Since the days of Roswell, official policy has been to not talk about. This has formed an ingrained culture to cover up and keep everything secret. With government keeping this topic covered up for about 80 years, how much progress has been made?

With the state of the information war going on, discerning and reasonable minds will find a clear picture than those looking for any excuse to not challenge their beliefs.



posted on Aug, 15 2023 @ 01:04 PM
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a reply to: kwakakev

I can tell you that the only thing that ever happened at Roswell was a downed high altitude spy/weather balloon and some wild imaginations. I grew up close to there. I was born not long after it happened.

The Museum is fun, the newsreports are all there, the story told. Roswell was nothing but a mail stop and a general store then and not much bigger now. But the UFO certainly has been good for touristy business.

There are other stories in NM. When they tested the Athena Missile launched from Utah, to NM, the studied when most people are asleep. Turns out most people are asleep at midnight on Thursday night. So thats when they launched, kept down the UFO reports as a bonus to maximum secrecy. It was possible to see the stages drop and the payload would drop on WSMR just behind the mountain from my front yard. Daddy would call just when it launched, I would go outside and watch the rocket. Saw dozens of them over the years.

So, just about everything that was reported was shushed off by my rocket engineer father at WSMR. Until he saw something on a clear Sunday afternoon, hovering above our acre. Then it went from hover to lickety split and disappeared. He said white stubby cigar, but nowdays we have those little candy mints, so they are TIcTacs. There was another sighting that same afternoon, by another base employee in El Paso. Weird huh? Also close to WSMR.

I think THEY do keep an eye on that base, along with the Russians, who have been caught out in the desert with tracking equip



posted on Aug, 15 2023 @ 02:46 PM
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originally posted by: kwakakev
If that is all the mud they have to throw at David, he is looking pretty clean. I don't see anything there to provide reasonable grounds to discredit David.

Jeremy and George come across as knowing more than what has been publicly declassified, yet are careful in how they handle this hot potato. They have made it this far in their reporting career and don't want to screw it up.

Look At the attempt to find anything at all on Trump, 8 years and absolutely nothing.
So what do they do ? Create it. All over the country. Get caught several times and just keep doing it.

If Grusch gets too close to the truth or gets too much traction/ support, he will definitely end up with a kiddie porn problem courtesy of the CIA. And 6 or 8 fugly crazy old broads that were like totally raped by him. And probably a few pounds of meth in his garage. And a suicide where he quickly zip tied his hands behind him, after shooting himself.
The deep state will probably do all of these things just for good theater.
Too much money and power in owning the ET tech and turning it into consumer products. Ain’t sharing it with anybody.



posted on Aug, 15 2023 @ 09:56 PM
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posted on Aug, 16 2023 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: CoyoteAngels

I showed you just one of many




posted on Aug, 16 2023 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: TXRabbit

Out of curiosity, who are some of the voices you listen to/respect on the internet? Do you think they just work for free?



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posted on Aug, 17 2023 @ 10:56 AM
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For the record, my father, who worked at WSMR, still said Roswell was a high altitude spy balloon. He BEGAN to believe there might be something to these UFO stories after seeing one. I trashed nobody. Adjust your attitude or pass me up, 'k?


But while I'm at it, your claims of 'special insider intelligence contacts' I dont believe even a little bit. reply to: Waterglass



posted on Aug, 17 2023 @ 04:23 PM
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photo's aren't enough evidence of anything in the days of photoshop. That looks like an out of focus blood moon with some color manipulation. That is supposed to make me a believer?
a reply to: Waterglass



posted on Aug, 18 2023 @ 06:06 AM
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a reply to: CoyoteAngels


This is the "Meteroid" that bounced off earths atmosphere September 22, 2020 in Europe before they scrubbed the video.





posted on Aug, 18 2023 @ 06:09 AM
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a reply to: CoyoteAngels




But while I'm at it, your claims of 'special insider intelligence contacts' I dont believe even a little bit


Yeah I am really sorry I wasted my life protecting ignorance.

Oh, Saddam did have WMD's before the 2nd Gulf war. They were moved into Syria.
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