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OBAMA and Africa prediction

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posted on Dec, 13 2008 @ 11:47 PM
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These are my predictions.

Obama prediction:



Obama will make a announcement or briefing about his nationality. Announcement/briefing will be held after holiday season. This will happen possible some time at 15 first day on January. This leads to positive resolution to this situation. I also see that there is going to be some kind of apology to Obama wich will possible be public (possible about his nationality). Just imagine how positively things start to change after that...


Africa prediction:



This is big one. There are going to be more water for whole Africa. Water is going to be provided from sea or possible from deep underground. Many water pipes and water systems will be build. From this lots of water to all will come more good things. With water people will grow crop and other food. They will possible start to keep more animals too which they can now have too. I see that there is going to be big boost at first but then there is going to be some trouble which will be on water supply or water system. But after that they will get even more help and it will make even better positive boost. This will start in between February 1st and April 30th. Just imagine how this will change the whole world to the positive course.


[edit on 14/12/2008 by SpiritWorld]



posted on Dec, 13 2008 @ 11:52 PM
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Who is apologizing to President Elect Barry and for what? Are you suggesting the US will do this independently or will the project go through the UN? Also does it have anything to do with his proposed poverty tax?



posted on Dec, 14 2008 @ 12:00 AM
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I see that this apology will be about this nationality situation. I don't know much about America and its people but I see that this apology will be done on behalf of person or persons who has been giving wrong information, lying or somehow mis presented things about Obama's nationality. I don't see UN in this situation, only Obama having speech about accusations that says that he is not natural US citizen. He will make it clear that he is indeed born in Hawaii and not in other country.

I am not totally sure how this speech or announcement is held and how wide it is broadcasted (in US indeed it will but I am not sure about UN etc.)...

[edit on 14/12/2008 by SpiritWorld]



posted on Dec, 14 2008 @ 04:21 AM
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Registered: 13-12-2008

Making predictions about Obama within hours of registering? Huh, Obama is that you?



posted on Dec, 14 2008 @ 07:37 AM
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where this "prediction" came from? and what do you think they can do in few months for Africa? I tell you - nothing. if you were once there than you know it. to get Africa up it will takes decades and generations. or it will be overtaken by China (the only country with some strategy concerning Africa).

and Obama? who is going to say sorry. and for what? for asking for the document it should be delivered on any request? no sane man will say sorry for it unless he is forced to. but if so I do not think any positive will follow it.



posted on Dec, 14 2008 @ 09:01 AM
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Why would Obama bother making an announcement regarding his nationality? He's the president of the damned country! So of course he's American! What else would he be?

There is no purpose for him to respond to those accusations that he is not a US citizen, because those critics have been proven wrong. It think this is less of an issue than you think.

Water for Africa? From whom? Access to water is not the solution to Africa's problems. But it would be awesome.



posted on Dec, 14 2008 @ 11:00 AM
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Interesting. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.


Have you made predictions before? How accurate have you been?



posted on Dec, 14 2008 @ 11:12 AM
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Water will not help Africa - Africa needs to help Africa, and until this happens it will always be a 3rd world quagmire.

Bush has given more financial aid to the African continent than any other president to date - he had rather progressive African plan.

Thirdly, the Europeans, the Americans and Chinese etc need to keep their hands out of the governments of the countries that make up the Dark Continent. It is a matter of fact that they constantly destabilize political structures, and often appoint delinquent leaders to further their own goals.

p.s.

Experience African rain just once in your life, and you won't regret it. - Its just rained outside and I can smell the earth, its incredible.



posted on Dec, 14 2008 @ 11:29 AM
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I don't think his Nationality has been proven, nor do I think it ever will be to some particularly since the Supremes decided it wasn't important enough to hear, even though Pablo and Jose have to prove they have the Right to work in America it seems Politicians do not, which is about par for the course with Politicians, they do as they like not as the legislate upon us.

Africa, HMMMM, the biggest problem in Africa is not water, although it is a problem. This could easily be solved like Israel did with desalination stations or the Saudi idea of towing an iceberg down. The problem in Africa is that you have to many religions killing each other off, t many tribes killing each other and to many trying to control the Oil and Diamonds and Gold reserves of Africa. All the water in the world won't stop the bloodshed.

A great example of this is the movie Blood Diamond, when someone does take over a nation it is not to help that nation but rather to enrich themselves enough to GET OUT OF AFRICA...



posted on Dec, 14 2008 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by theindependentjournal

The problem in Africa is that you have to many religions killing each other off, t many tribes killing each other and to many trying to control the Oil and Diamonds and Gold reserves of Africa. All the water in the world won't stop the bloodshed.

A great example of this is the movie Blood Diamond, when someone does take over a nation it is not to help that nation but rather to enrich themselves enough to GET OUT OF AFRICA...


I don't think people want to get out of Africa, especially the leaders (they have it really good - beyond comprehension really) - it’s about POWER - blood diamonds was a great illustrator of this point - human life becomes worthless to some people - and when they are allowed to get away with doing anything - it becomes 'all corrupting' - keep in mind Africa is a continent and there are 57 separate countries here on a MASSIVE land mass and a ~billion people.

Regarding religions and social groups (tribes is a bit derogatory these days - please note) you need to understand that many times countries were divided up by colonial powers - they did not care about the groupings and conflicts that existed and put people together who did not get along for centuries. - This is by no means an excuse for what goes on in some places, but it did contribute significantly, further to this, politicians (the bane of existence) play on these sentiments when they rise to power, which fuels internal tensions - this happened in Kenya last year.

What Africa needs foremost is strong leadership - we need people of the stature of Mandela, of Obama, JFK and even Thatcher to instill some sort of pride in these countries. - Take my word for it, the next century will be of Africa rising - For all the negatives, believe me when I tell you that there is so much development here and so much hope its tangible.



posted on Dec, 14 2008 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by czacza
and what do you think they can do in few months for Africa? I tell you - nothing. if you were once there than you know it. to get Africa up it will takes decades and generations...


I am sorry if you didn't get my point. I didn't say that it will take few months it will start in that time period. I personally don't know how long it will take.

Also I think that we need to think globally. What if every country (or at least majority) will take part on this? I think that it will not take long time to do so when there is a lot of help...

I think that we need to start thinking positively.

PS. I joined ATS because I thought that this prediction will be important. You are right, Obama don't have to announce anything but he will because he want to make things clear.


PPS. My prediction came directly. I can't say any particular entity etc. who would have gave me this information (although there might be some source). It was just like "poof" when it came to my head.

[edit on 14/12/2008 by SpiritWorld]



posted on Dec, 15 2008 @ 10:38 AM
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ok, I get your point now. and understand it. you want to belive in better future. good for you and really I hope you are right. I see it more dark and unfortunatetly I am most probably closer to what is coming.

and about Africa? no help or money can change anything there. it is neccessary that people will evolve there. now, all you do is to keep them alive knowing that the money you send there will be in 90% stolen by their warlords or governments (depends who is in charge).

and china is on the fastest way to change something. the way we can not fallow cause of the past. they are trying to overtake.



posted on Dec, 15 2008 @ 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by czacza
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and about Africa? no help or money can change anything there. it is neccessary that people will evolve there. now, all you do is to keep them alive knowing that the money you send there will be in 90% stolen by their warlords or governments (depends who is in charge).


We don't need to send money to the greedy warlords which has been happening long time. We need to send staff to build water systems. It is not that hard as you may think. When many countries will unite to help and send their companies to the work it will be peace of cake
. This help would have big impact on warlords too because this "water to all" would give more power to the people and so things inside can start healing too...

[edit on 15/12/2008 by SpiritWorld]



posted on Dec, 16 2008 @ 05:32 AM
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Water isn't a problem in Africa...there is lots of water - this point is a bit lost on me - do you know how many rivers are here? 1000's!

The problem is services, like electricity, sewerage, telecoms etc -



posted on Dec, 16 2008 @ 02:09 PM
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Yeah, thats why they need help building water systems that pump water from water sources... By water systems I means sewers, pumps etc. that they need for having water... In many towns there are just few dirty wells and no rivers near...



posted on Dec, 16 2008 @ 04:06 PM
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I am all about helping people out and i also think it is great that we finally have a president who is diff color then white ( i am white ) it shows that America is finally coming out of the dark ages and is ready for change.
The whole thing about helping Africa (or other countries) is great and all but i think we need not to be there. Africa has done great all these centuries by them selves and with out any help except from them selves and others they love and trust! They did not ask for out help, we just assume that they did cause the seem "poorer" then we do, we maybe they are richer then we are. Being rich does not always mean money, gold, gems, etc. It could also mean happiness, etc. but like we have done for centuries we force our way upon other countries and make them fit our "image". We go in, with guns, knives, hate, and other weapons, and take out the "BAD GUYS" then we put some one in power, some one who will help our countrie when we need it. We kill innocent people. and most of all we force religion upon them, when then yet they were happy with what and who they believed in!
LOL i guess my point is is that we know Africa seems like they are introuble and in need but are they? have they asked for out help? They seemed to have done great all these centuries then all the sudden we come. WE (the USA) NEED TO STAY OUT OF OTHER COUNTRIES UNLESS THEY ASK US TO HELP THEM!
sorry.... But we need to focus on out own problems, and we have alot of them!



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