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I first explained to Smith that if he talked to people in the construction industry, he would understand that to “pull” a building is to professionally demolish it. He responded that he had never heard that before (presumably before Walter had brought it up) and that Silverstein’s people had explained that this was not what he meant by the remark. Smith did not explain to me how Silverstein’s spokesperson understood the expression “pull it”.
I then pointed out that Smith’s story did not feature Silverstein’s now infamous quote:
“We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.”
Why, I asked, did he not include the quote in his story and let the reader understand what all the fuss was about and decide for themselves what they thought Silverstein meant. Smith replied “I didn’t feel it was crucial to the story.”
Silverstein "Pull it" .
On a PBS documentary video released in Sept. 2002, the WTC leaseholder Larry Silverstein is shown saying that a fire department commander tells him that the fire in the WTC 7 might not be able to be contained and Silverstein recommends to the commander that maybe the smartest decision to make to avoid risking any more lives is to "pull it". Right afterwards, Silverstein says the decision was made to "pull" and then they all watched the building collapse...
Originally posted by 8bitagent
So if you buy 7 famous tall buildings, and six weeks later they all somehow go down(tho NONE of the Silverstein building go down) and on top of that ya somehow remember to take out a multi billion dollar insurance on em a couple weeks before...well, it's a little bit odd.
Isnt it convenient how Fahrenheit 9/11 never talks about WTC 7, Silverstein, fireman's claims of hearing explosive devices in WTC1&2, etc?
The question has always been if he did not mean to demolish the building what then did he mean?
Originally posted by SportyMB
Why in the hell would a "fire department commander" be involved or have prior knowledge of such an event if it were scheduled? If there were actual explosives prestaged in the WTC's...why would a fire department commander know of this? Why would he be the one with the authority to give the command and OK the destruction and downfall of the WTC's?
Seems like such an act would be way above the fire department level, way above the city government level. Ya know.
Originally posted by SportyMB
Why in the hell would a "fire department commander" be involved or have prior knowledge of such an event if it were scheduled? If there were actual explosives prestaged in the WTC's...why would a fire department commander know of this? Why would he be the one with the authority to give the command and OK the destruction and downfall of the WTC's?
Seems like such an act would be way above the fire department level, way above the city government level. Ya know.
Originally posted by ThichHeaded
Prob the same reasoning that bush saw the 1st plane crash into the 1st tower on 9/11..
Originally posted by billybob
you must ask yourself the same question, "why would silverstein be telling the fire chief what to do, and why does he know fireman jargon?"
FEMA knew. why shouldn't the fire chief or silverstein know as well?
Originally posted by SportyMB
This has been said before, but Im gonna say it again,
Pull is a term used in the military, law enforcement, SWAT and the fire fighting community. It means to fall back, pull out or GTFO (pronounced git-fo, meaning get the fudge out).
Sense the command came from a fire department commander I would not the least surprised that his meaning was for people to GTFO. I mean it was obvious that the buidling was ready to fall and many rescue workers have already died inside the building.
And for those that believ he said "pull it".
IT is a pronoun ya know, used to replace a noun. So instead of saying "pull the team out" or "pull out of the operation" or "pull out of the building" or any combination thereof, it is easier and more efficient to just say "pull it"....
Why in the hell would a "fire department commander" be involved or have prior knowledge of such an event if it were scheduled? If there were actual explosives prestaged in the WTC's...why would a fire department commander know of this? Why would he be the one with the authority to give the command and OK the destruction and downfall of the WTC's?
Seems like such an act would be way above the fire department level, way above the city government level. Ya know.
Originally posted by Nventual
Originally posted by ThichHeaded
Prob the same reasoning that bush saw the 1st plane crash into the 1st tower on 9/11..
He did? I thought he was in a school when it happaned.
Originally posted by SportyMB
Wow, is that he best you've got? Im seriously trying to understand this..ok. Just like yourself....Im by far NOT an expert on 9/11 conspiracies.
I could be a potential believer of your "theory" and here you are not even able to answer my questions. The only semi-amswer you have provided is "it's a conspiracy...misfortune mankind bla bla"
Can you provide some links or something to support your claim that FEMA knew?
I don't know why silverstein would tell the chiefy what to do......do you? and can you back it up?. And the Jargon is not limited to only fireman.....
anyone with a law enforcment, fire or military background may have heard the term "pull".....this also supports the reason why he MAY have said
"pull IT"....because of his lack of expierence using the term....maybe he heard the term before and tried to use it.
As reported on Pacifica on May 17, 2002,
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Condolezza Rice stated on CNN that she warned Willie Brown not to board an airpline on 9/11/01 some 8 hours before he was scheduled to fly.
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Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers
received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September
11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been
cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the
FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.
Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the
messages and immediately after the terror attack informed the company's
management, which immediately contacted the Israeli security services,
which brought in the FBI.
"I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don't
know the sender. It may just have been someone who was joking and turned
out they accidentally got it right. And I don't know if our information
was useful in any of the arrests the FBI has made," said Macover. Odigo
is a U.S.-based company whose headquarters are in New York, with offices
in Herzliya.
As an instant messaging service, Odigo users are not limited to sending
messages only to people on their "buddy" list, as is the case with ICQ,
the other well-known Israeli instant messaging application.
Link this link is now dead?
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The instant messaging service "Odigo", says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.
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Marvin Bush
911dossier notes 25.1.2003:
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For those who do not accept the Official Story on the collapse of the Twin Towers, this article is a minor smoking gun. It explains their biggest problem: if the Towers were brought down with explosives how could anyone get them in. Step in Marvin Bush whose company installed the security system...
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9/11 Security Courtesy of Marvin Bush
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Marvin P. Bush, the president?s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Bush also served. [Utne]
According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."
The company lists as government clients "the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S Air force, and the Department of Justice," in projects that "often require state-of-the-art security solutions for classified or high-risk government sites."
Stratesec (Securacom) differs from other security companies which separate the function of consultant from that of service provider.
The company defines itself as a "single-source" provider of "end-to-end" security services, including everything from diagnosis of existing systems to hiring subcontractors to installing video and electronic equipment. It also provides armored vehicles and security guards.
The Dulles Internation contract is another matter. Dulles is regarded as "absolutely a sensitive airport," according to security consultant Wayne Black, head of a Florida-based security firm, due to its location, size, and the number of international carriers it serves.
Black has not heard of Stratesec, but responds that for one company to handle security for both airports and airlines is somewhat unusual. It is also delicate for a security firm serving international facilities to be so interlinked with a foreign-owned company: "Somebody knew somebody," he suggested, or the contract would have been more closely scrutinized.
As Black points out, "when you [a company] have a security contract, you know the inner workings of everything." And if another company is linked with the security company, then "What's on your computer is on their computer." [American Reporter] Link
Bush-Linked Company Handled Security for the WTC, Dulles and United Link
First-hand Accounts of Underground Explosions In The North Tower
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Stationary Engineer Mike Pecoraro follow the link to read his account that day
Mike told his co-worker to call upstairs to their Assistant Chief Engineer and find out if everything was all right. His co-worker made the call and reported back to Mike that he was told that the Assistant Chief did not know what happened but that the whole building seemed to shake and there was a loud explosion.
The two decided to ascend the stairs to the C level, to a small machine shop where Vito Deleo and David Williams were supposed to be working. When the two arrived at the C level, they found the machine shop gone.
There was nothing there but rubble, Mike said. "We're talking about a 50 ton hydraulic press ! "gone!"
They decided to ascend two more levels to the building?s lobby. As they ascended to the B Level, one floor above, they were astonished to see a steel and concrete fire door that weighed about 300 pounds, wrinkled uplike a piece of aluminum foil? and lying on the floor. "They got us again", Mike told his co-worker, referring to the terrorist attack at the center in 1993.
Consider the implications of what Mr. Pecoraro describes
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At this point the only overt damage to the building was the plane crash some 95 floors above, which could not have caused violent explosions underground. Since the towers were anchored at the base to the bedrock the shaking caused by the crash would have been greatest close to the crash site, getting progressively weaker as it approached the rigid attachment at the bottom.
Yet the underground damage he describes can not have been the result of a mere shaking - nothing short of an explosion could reduce the contents of a machine shop to rubble.
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Video linkSquibs along southwest corner of WTC-7
The above clip is taken from this longer video of the WTC-7 collapse, which itself is a small segment of the Naudet brothers' documentary "9/11" , (with enlargement and cropping by Webfairy):
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Originally posted by SportyMB
The question has always been if he did not mean to demolish the building what then did he mean?
This has been said before, but Im gonna say it again,
Pull is a term used in the military, law enforcement, SWAT and the fire fighting community. It means to fall back, pull out or GTFO (pronounced git-fo, meaning get the fudge out).
Originally posted by Sauron
Remember Condi, that snake eyed bitch, this is the broad who said they did