freemason watch

I have looked at this site and would like some opinions on it please. In my opinion the person(s) who are running this site have got a very false opinion of freemasonary. They seem to think that freemasons run the world and worship the Devil. I would like to know more about the poor deluded people who run this site. In my opinion they need medical help ASAP.

I wonder if many people are taking in by their lies and absurd revelations about freemasonary??????????? If it was not so serious I would make fun of them by saying they are right and that in freemasonary there are higher degrees and in the higher degrees the candidates communiacte with the Devil, eat babies and drink their blood. Also, they change into reptiles and shed their skin............ I am sure that some people would believe this

Gerard

[edit on 6-6-2004 by Gerard]

IMO that site is a heap of mismatched bull#, a canerous tumor on the internet, spewing toxins and poisons into the minds of the curious and tarnishing the image of the craft.

Have been fighting FW for many a day now.

Their influence is diminished from its position about 18 months ago.

The site you see now is a mirror of the previous site which was we think originally part of the David Icke empire. But he distabces himself from this new FW group.

Mr. Nevross should be here with his opinion.

My opinion is that the whole thing is a commercial enterprise. The gullable will fall for it. Create a fear and then sell the victim a book to make the fear go away. Its a take off from the Evangelical sites that do something similar.

If you a Mason you will spent eternity in hell, but for just$9.99 you can have a book that will save you.

See masonicinfo.com...

Fiat Lvx.

As I thought buy my book and you will be saved and it only costs $9.99 and if you buy 2 get the second one at half price. If they were keen about saving people there would be no charge save that of postong and package of the item. Freewatch anything but free.

Gerard

my father was a mason, hes very apprehensive to talk about what went on. in fact he wont talk about it at all, just says there a bunch of old men who enjoy their history, i see nothing evil in it.

but i also think religion is a bunch of huey

Originally posted by Gerard
I have looked at this site and would like some opinions on it please. In my opinion the person(s) who are running this site have got a very false opinion of freemasonary.

[edit on 6-6-2004 by Gerard]

Err Gerard the peopl who run this site are the members cos if it werent for members then we wouldnt have ATS please rephrase what i have quoted cos you are making it sound like the person who owns the site hates frremasons, which is not necessarily true.

I am not freemason but I enjoy their historical background, one thing I have to say they only reason they have endure persecution in the past is because the church was threatened by their organization but as today only ignorant will persecute them now.

I am not trying to step on nobodies toes is just an opinion.

Drunk..

I'm thinking he/she means the www.freemasonrywatch.org site, not ATS..

Rahboni really? but to me its unclear(no i am not on the booze)

Originally posted by rahboni
Drunk..

I'm thinking he/she means the www.freemasonrywatch.org site, not ATS..

Then why didn't Gerard Paste the site? I was all confused as well. It would be like me saying hey man take a look at this site , it has the meaning to life in it. Go check out it out for realio..........Der


Nutzo

Although the site www.onealclan.com is mostly a Bible Code and End of Days site, the webmaster is a master mason, 32nd degree mason, knight of St. Andrew.

Names of famous masons are on the website. Masons are a charitable group. They are not taking over the world.

Go to www.onealclan.com

Title of the thread is "Freemason Watch". He and the people below all talk and quote FW. Some of them, Masonic Light, give links about FW.

Besides, even if he was talking about ATS, isn't ATS about "deny ignorance"? So if he was talking about ATS, isn't it against what this site is all about to tell him not to post about it? Since the best way to over come ignorance is to know both sides . Just seems kind of repressive to me, but hey, your call. Just my 2 cents.

[edit on 7-6-2004 by Darktalon]

Originally posted by drunk

Originally posted by Gerard
I have looked at this site and would like some opinions on it please. In my opinion the person(s) who are running this site have got a very false opinion of freemasonary.

[edit on 6-6-2004 by Gerard]

Err Gerard the peopl who run this site are the members cos if it werent for members then we wouldnt have ATS please rephrase what i have quoted cos you are making it sound like the person who owns the site hates frremasons, which is not necessarily true.

Sorry moderator I was referring to the freemason watch site not this one. I trust this clears up any confusion.

Brother Gerard

Yeah Gerrard its O.K but next please state which site

Freemasonrywatch.org is nothing more than an agenda driven hate/fear mongering site whose most noteworthy accomplishment is the periodical banning (host originated, or some other form of failure) of it's discussion board (this in part due to its supporters conduct as well as organized resistance). The misrepresentation, and outright lies are best dispelled here on ATS (as well as other pro-Masonic boards). A quick review of posts would yield an excellent demonstration of Masons reaching out to the public and encouraging interest in this "Secret Society". The primary goal of sites such as Freemasonrywatch.org, and others of the same ilk is to get first crack at the ignorant ,and develop a bias that will be hard to overcome, of those that fall into this trap, $9.99 is a small price to pay to combat an evil that simply does not exist.

Originally posted by Azza
my father was a mason, hes very apprehensive to talk about what went on. in fact he wont talk about it at all, just says there a bunch of old men who enjoy their history, i see nothing evil in it.

but i also think religion is a bunch of huey

Masonry is not a religion. People in it are Catholic, Jewish, or any other religion that believes in a God. You may have called your own religion huey just now.

[edit on 7-6-2004 by mccaffrey]

b4.boards2go.com...

Interesting about FW is that they use everyone else, no problem with that. Its just strange.

You find a link on the above message board in the header to Ephesians 5:11 and Order of Former Freemasons. (both Christian ministries who object to Freemasonry) this gives FW the appearance of being Christian motivated.

You also get a link to my site through the MASON link. but I have to say the link has been there for about a year or so and we have only had Masons come through from it.

There are alot of missing links, they just 404. so maintenance of the site is poor.

freemasonrywatch.org...

For anyone that at all interested this page will explain the link between me and FW. But to be fair to the owners of FW the problem that they forget to mention that caused the protest at the FW forum was constant tirade over many months of trolling and abuse from a Conrad Barris " Connie Mack Berry" who trolled our forums under about 35 different alias. To the best of our knowledge he was not the contoler of FW.

The sites of FW have been closed or suspended for constant breaking of terms of Use. Pornographc material, theft of interlectual property etc. But they are much better at controling what they have on the sites now. May not like it , but it is within the rules.

The last sites closed I believe suggested that Freemasons operated a phedofile ring of child ritual abuse. That was unacceptable to us and the service provider.

Basically they got shut down because they lost control. If they loose control again then there is always FreemasonryWatch Watch keeping an eye open.

My grandfather was a 32nd degree Mason and he resigned(?) I guess before I was born. When I asked my dad why he quit he said that Grandpa had "got the religion" (He became a preacher at a small one room church and was a Deacon at the Church Of Christ I attended when I was a kid) and decided that he could not belong to a "secret society" anymore. I have always been curious about them - I see their symbols everywhere - but know VERY little (as does any non-mason, I suppose) about them. I have been reading and hearing alot of anti-masonic stuff about the Illuminati and connections between the Masons and the New World Order, which only fuels my curiosity. How do I learn more? Masons, how do you recriut people if everything is a secret? If my grandfather was involved long enough to reach that rank I wonder why he would just up and quit? I wonder are there any masons out there who could shed some light on this subject for me?

Originally posted by The Axeman
How do I learn more?

Simply research, read books, go talk to Masons at your local lodge. As long as your drive is there and intentions pure information will come.

how do you recriut people if everything is a secret?

We don't recruit we aren't allowed to invite anyone to join Masonry, people must inquire about joining on their own free will. Those that Masonry is for will find it, those that it's not wont. Additionally everything is not secret, we and our lodges are very visible. Our lodge meeting times and locations as well as public activities are listed all over the internet. If one is looking for Masons, we are extremely easy to find.

If my grandfather was involved long enough to reach that rank I wonder why he would just up and quit?

Unfortunately your Grandfather is the only one who truly knows the answer to this question. No one can hypothesize the inner most motives of a mans inner thoughts and decisions especially in regards to a decision such as this.


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