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Originally posted by antonia
I have not personally insulted you so I'd appreciate it if you gave me the same respect. As for reporting you, I'm not going to bother as I know what's become of this place.
Originally posted by LauraM
reply to post by antonia
It will be proven once Obama is gone. Same with the facts on Fast and Furious. In the mean time they can keep the ostriches like you fooled. As for whether or not they asked for help and were denied; Obama was asked point blank twice if this was true and he evaded the question. You can find this video on the net. He would have flat out denied it if it wasn't true.
Originally posted by antonia
Originally posted by Swills
The accusations are actually the truth. POTUS and the White House were fully aware of the SEVEN HOUR battle that took place. They did nothing. These are facts.
Prove it.
Oh that's right, you can't.
Jihadists twice set off explosives at the consulate prior to the incident that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens, and announced threats on Facebook about escalating attacks on Western targets in the run-up to the 9/11 anniversary, according to whistleblowers reaching out to House Republicans.....
.....The new information disclosed in the letter obtained by The Daily Beast strongly suggests the U.S. consulate in Benghazi and the late Ambassador Chris Stevens were known by U.S. security personnel to be targets for terrorists. Indeed, the terrorists made their threats openly on Facebook.
Hussain Abdulrazzaq Kreiba
The former self-employed National Transitional Council (NTC) succeeded in organizing the General Elections and accordingly power was transferred peacefully to the elected General National Congress (GNG). Although the NTC and its government managed during a difficult stage to run the country and deal with some urgent files, both failed to restore stability to Libya.
The criticism directed to the NTC and its transitional government was their inability to get involved in effectively forming the national army and police. Accordingly, the Libyan government encountered difficulties to bring many tribal and regional conflicts under control and hundreds of lives were lost as a result of that......
.....For example, following a May 22 early-morning attack on a facility that housed the International Committee on the Red Cross, a Facebook page claimed responsibility, and said the attack was a warning and a “message for the Americans disturbing the skies over Derna.” That reference was likely to American surveillance drones over a city that provided fighters to al Qaeda in Iraq in the last decade.
In June a Facebook page associated with militants linked to the late Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi posted a threat to Stevens based on the route he took for his morning jog. The Facebook page also posted a picture of Stevens. The letter to Clinton notes that “after stopping these morning runs for about a week, the Ambassador resumed them.”
More than 100 protesters have broken into the Libyan National Congress, disrupting the MPs’ work. The demonstrators are infuriated by the proposed make-up of the country’s new government, saying it is not representative enough.....
....They further accused the PM-elect of putting ideology first when choosing candidates, which resulted in several members of the political arm of the Muslim Brotherhood appear on the list. At the same time, the liberal National Forces Alliance was not represented at all, says the leader of the liberal coalition, Ibrahim al-Gharyani.
Mr al-Hasidi insisted his fighters "are patriots and good Muslims, not terrorists," but added that the "members of al-Qaeda are also good Muslims and are fighting against the invader".....
....Mr al-Hasidi admitted he had earlier fought against "the foreign invasion" in Afghanistan, before being "captured in 2002 in Peshwar, in Pakistan". He was later handed over to the US, and then held in Libya before being released in 2008.
A few hours earlier, Smith had posted, "assuming we don't die tonight. We saw one of our 'police' that guard the compound taking pictures," he recounted.
Amid a growing diplomatic mandate after the revolution and increased concerns about an "uncertain and unstable" security environment, the U.S. Embassy staff in Libya requested a 16-member Special Operations "security support team" remain in the country for several months beyond the end of its scheduled departure in August, calling its work "essential," according to a State Department memo obtained by CNN Security Clearance.
The request was denied.
Last week during congressional testimony from State Department officials who were on the ground in Libya, we heard over and over again that more security for the consulate in Benghazi was requested but denied. We also heard repeatedly from Democrats, including Ranking Member of the House Oversight Committee Elijah Cummings, claiming a lack of funding was at fault for less security in Benghazi during the time of the attack on 9/11 that left four Americans dead. State Department officials said funding had nothing to do with the situation and now, Chairman Darrell Issa has revealed the State Department is sitting on $2 billion for consulate security, but won't spend it.
The United States had an unmanned Predator drone over its consulate in Benghazi during the attack that slaughtered four Americans — which should have led to a quicker military response, it was revealed yesterday.
“They stood, and they watched, and our people died,” former CIA commander Gary Berntsen told CBS News.
American drones were in the skies above the U.S. consulate in Benghazi as the deadly attack that killed ambassador Christopher Stevens unfolded, it has been revealed.
Defense department officials considered sending troops in to rescue the ambassador and staff, according to CBS News, but ultimately decided not to .
They would haven been able to watch the attack on-screen as it unfolded.
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Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.
Amid a growing diplomatic mandate after the revolution and increased concerns about an "uncertain and unstable" security environment, the U.S. Embassy staff in Libya requested a 16-member Special Operations "security support team" remain in the country for several months beyond the end of its scheduled departure in August, calling its work "essential," according to a State Department memo obtained by CNN Security Clearance.
The request was denied.
Originally posted by LauraM
reply to post by antonia
If Obama wins you can bet he will the same as he did with Fast and Furious and classify it all.
What was the intent behind that? Who did the denying? Who got that message? Who was relaying that information? Presidents are rarely micromanagers, they delegate responsibility yet have to take the blame for all that happens in their administration. If someone was willing to go on the record then you might have something, but I suspect no one will. What you have posted are facts leading up to the event but it still does not prove the OP. Furthermore, if the OP is true, What is the context for that denial? That is an important point none of you have addressed.
Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by antonia
Umm so what? The director of the CIA is lying. Even if he was telling the truth and there were no drones that night what else do you have to say about everything I posted?
The consulate was attacked twice leading up to September 11. The terrorists announced they were going to continue the attacks for the ten year anniversary. The consulate was denied security that it requested. Washington DC lied and said there was no money for security. Libya provided the security and is completely corrupt and in turmoil. CIA ex USN SEALs radioed in the attacks at the beginning of the seven long hour battle. The message of the attack reached the White House, and everyone else in the know.
Drones or not, and there were drones, this happened. What say you?
An attack on an American Ambassador would have been told to POTUS immediately. The message went out on the DOD network as a FLASH message.
Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by antonia
Do you deny the US Gov't denied them security and knew the attacks were coming?
Do you deny there were two US drones overhead during the seven hour long battle?
Do you deny the White House & POTUS had real time knowledge of the attacks?
So what exactly is it that you need proven in the OP?
A small British firm based in south Wales had secured a contract to provide security for American diplomatic facilities in Benghazi despite having only a few months experience in the country.
Sources have told the Daily Telegraph that just five unarmed locally hired Libyans were placed on duty at the compound on eight-hour shifts under a deal that fell outside the State Department's global security contracting system.
They knew the consulate was under threat, but diplomats in the area were always under threat. This does not prove they knew there was going to be an attack on that day.
Jihadists twice set off explosives at the consulate prior to the incident that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens, and announced threats on Facebook about escalating attacks on Western targets in the run-up to the 9/11 anniversary, according to whistleblowers reaching out to House Republicans
Panetta denies that, it was already posted.
I want you to prove the CIA asked for the help and was denied. No, if it was denied I want you to tell me why. It's fairly easy to figure out.
That, plus a second unarmed drone dispatched four hours and 15 minutes later, were the only U.S. military forces sent to the scene of the attack. Commandos were dispatched from Europe to an air field in Sigonella, Sicily, but by the time they got there the attack in Benghazi was over. Speaker Boehner asks Obama for answers on Libya
Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by antonia
Post the article again. He is the only one denying it and I betcha this is brand new news. Multiple sources state the drones (plural) were there.
He is lying. Is it hard for you to believe he's lying? They've been lying left and right since this attack was first reported.
I have to ask you, you seriously think these men didn't ever try to communicate with the DOD during this time? Like seriously?
You need proof that the two CIA ex USN SEALs who died that night fighting off a platoon of militants that they would have radioed in for help during the SEVEN HOUR battle?
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by elouina
I wonder... When did it become common practice to rely upon local civilian security for United States Diplomatic Compounds?
edit on 28-10-2012 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)