The reason why they do it.

With all the videos I watch, all the websites I have browsed, all the information I have gathered about everything from the Illuminati to the Masons to the NWO, there are some things I do not understand.

Motive: It is said that power is what is desired. Money is accumulated in such great quantities that if found in my bank account the next day I'd cry for a week with joy. Yet we find ourselves uncovering information that these people are influencing the path on which we all walk as a whole. These things done with such malice that you wonder whats wrong with just having money? Why go to this extreme?

Technique: A lot of information on such organizations state some rather simple methods of control. "They" manipulate the white house, "They" own every company in such a field, "They" will force such and such a device on the populace as if it an be done with ease.

To speak more on motive, i do not understand what a person would gain or want with total control over the entire world? If these people responsible for these horrid changes seen in many different facets in our lives have such a huge amount of wealth then hiring a servant is the least of their worries. Not to say i think when they take over they would pay us to serve, merely saying that the pursuit for servants would not make a person want to take over the world if the cost of a servant today is pennies to a person of such wealth.

If slaves is not what they desire then maybe its euthanasia? To control the populace in a way that these people deem correct. Still what would this matter to a person of such caliber? Sure less idiots on MTV or American Idol to worry about, shorter lines at McDonalds, (I'm sure they would know better then to eat that crap, but go along with it I'm sure you're getting the idea.) and more parking in Manhattan, but I'm sure those in the places we assume them to be don't bother themselves with such drivel.

To direct evolution? Do they believe it is their right to direct the path of our species? Weed out the weak minded or inept in order to force "The survival of the fittest" in a day and age where survival isn't much harder then finding a job at s#!t shack delux and buying dollar meals till you die of a heart attack, it almost seems the most plausible reason. Still, who is to say this is a true concern for them? They have their descendants, and they know those who make a positive influence breed as well so to say our species is in any sort of peril in regards to rampant ignorance is far from the truth. (There is rampant ignorance, but I believe it is a product of the things these people create though media, medicine, common exposure to the normal western culture today, etc... so they cannot be trying to fix this by controlling the populace.)

To make this more of a question,

What could be the reason for what is happening in our country (usa) and the world that could have a logical explanation?

I have a bit of a theory It would include every major happening that we string together as a larger conspiracy.

Could it not be selfish desire to benefit themselves or an organization they and possibly family work for? Yes that would simplify it back down to "just" money but it in a way makes it a bit less sinister, and almost a bit more human.

Could it be a game so to say? Those with family of renown, or those with great masses of wealth all play the "manipulate the world" game to see what they could change and again how to benefit from it?

This last bit, my own speculation is most likely not correct, but I am always seeking an answer that is just more human. It always seems that the answers I find along the way referring to cabals or to a secret society out to kill us all get refuted in a manner that is always a bit simpler and more logical, not to deny their existence, but to shed light on the motives of those involved.

I implore you all to post your insights and knowledge gained on this matter.

Didnt have room to add above, but videos are always welcome.

I greatly enjoy learning as much as I can about these various subjects.

Just please i think i have seen every single 9-11 video ever made that states we did it lol unless you have some on the connections to Israel to 9-11 Not to say that I believe that is the truth, but more that i am new to this theory and wish to understand why people believe this.

Thanks!

well I can think of 2 motives but they are from my own
theories and can't be proven, but is hinted at in certain locations.

1) Natural Resources
On the stones of Elberton GA, there is a populace
number of 500M stated that we should not go over.
If we do, then the earth cannot provide enough
resources to sustain the entire planet. So it's
population control to to avoid wasting natural
resources.

2) Alien Treaties
The Aliens have entered into treaties with governments
to come under one world government to represent our
planet in the galaxy. Therefore we can move from a type 0
to a type 1. We cannot do this if there is no 1 government
that speaks for the entire human race of earth. Therefore
the NWO is not only forced on us by our own people,
but by aliens to keep them from exterminating our planet.
We have to give them a reason for our existence. A 1
world government would show them we could let our
small disputes go and unite as a species instead of
multiple nationalities.

As far as technique goes, there are Grey humanoids
walking amongst us now. Some even work for our own
government. They could change our world for us, but they
want us to do it of our own will and accord.

Although I agree that IF we were to ever be accepted into a galactic community we would first need to settle our little disputes and unite, the laws of physics simply prevent me from believing we have ever been visited by beings of another world or could ever visit them in any reasonable life time. Weirder things have happened I'm sure, but I am also safe in believing that those that are affecting our future are truly human.

If I catch what you are getting at...you are saying that WE know what, where, how...etc.

But your question is why...

I was recently directed at these vids...which is a plausible answer as to why IMO.

watch them all



and this for a follow up

There are four main groups, roughly speaking. Directors, players, spectators, and the ignorant. The boundaries in reality are not nearly so well-defined, but for the sake of argument it is generally correct (as I see it presently).

Directors - these would be the multi-billionaire families, top shareholders of international banks, European royalty, and the upper echelons of some secret societies. They have long term goals which never change, but understand that there are limitless paths to achieve those goals. Because they know humanity cannot be perfectly predicted, they are patient, methodical, and are always adapting. Their longterm goals are most likely what are depicted in theGeorgia Guidestones as boondock-saint mentioned. They allow the players an occasional glimpse of their world.

Players - these would be your high-level politicians, powerful media executives, people who are actively involved in carrying out the agenda like George H.W. Bush, Henry Kissinger, George Soros, etc. They have been selected by the Directors for their "moral flexibility" - i.e. corruptibility. There are many ways to ensure that once in, you stay in. They are allowed the utmost debauchery imaginable at places like Bohemian Grove. The spectators are sometimes given a glimpse of this world.

Spectators - This is generally consisted of military, government, wall street executives, anyone who has limited knowledge of, but no direct involvement in, the activities of the players. This is where all the whistleblowers come from. The genuine ones, anyways.

You can fit a hypothetical fifth group of "ETs" above the Directors if you want. I see this as likely, given the historical evidence of UFOs going back thousands of years, along with contemporary testimony of tens of thousands of abductees describing not-quite-human entities. Many of these report seeing these entities working side-by-side with human military. This implies a connection, though the nature of that connection is almost completely shrouded in mystery. Ultimately, when taking into account the scope and technological access of black projects (of not just the US!) it becomes difficult to connect the UFO phenomenon with the abduction phenomenon.

Originally posted by daddymax
If I catch what you are getting at...you are saying that WE know what, where, how...etc.

But your question is why...

I was recently directed at these vids...which is a plausible answer as to why IMO.

watch them all

Thank you very much for these links, i am watching them now so i apologize for not responding to any further posts on here if i happen to miss them. And yes you understood what I meant, the how was kind of irrelevant as it didn't matter what means they used as the ends was what I cannot come to an understanding on.

Also to be honest I never felt like the 2012 thing ever had any relevance especially when knowing that the Mayans had a larger section of time keeping that they obviously couldn't keep up with having... died off and all so any kind of apocalyptic scenario in the near future seemed very unlikely but this first video i am watching is immensely interesting especially because of the subject matter it touches on, and how well it combines events that I would have previously seen as independent happenings.

I like this post – it comes from the heart. The ‘why’ of it is always the toughest question. Here is my take, and it may seem “out there.” But since you asked…

I’m aiming for cogency, I will likely fail. Bear with me. If the proverbial “they”, that is, they who are all powerful, controlling, and pulling the strings from behind the scenes, and have managed to do if for an almost unimaginable length of time, there has to be purpose. I think that purpose is a lot more complex yet simplistically deeper than we are grasping. Yes, I would say power, but power to what end? They are in the know, and decide who gets what on a lesser need to know basis, trickling all the way down. I see architecture. Look at all the secret society/Mason/Illuminati/pick your poison…it is highly ritualistic and esoteric, filled with bizarre and recurring symbolism especially at the highest levels from anything I’ve ever bumped into.

The control infiltrates every level, and I mean everything we all encounter everyday: government, economics, health, religion, media, space exploration, atom smashing and energy, the writing of history, etc., etc. This is not an accident, imo. Distractions. What better place to train a soul for evolution than to drop it smack into a world that doesn’t appear to make any sense, filled with chaos and division? I would suggest it is to see how you, and you alone, rise to your challenges in your own little corner of the world. If one believes that this life is not the end of it, if life is a series of tests to pass and graduate, what better place to separate the wheat from the chaff?

They’ve done a spectacularly good job of perpetrating what most would define as evil! No one individual can bring down the tentacles of what is all-pervasive, crosing all boundaries and disciplines. There is a reason for that. It is a tool. What would you learn if there was nothing to show you what NOT to be? I believe it is bigger than we give it credit for. But that is my opinion.

reply to post by asafum08

Also to be honest I never felt like the 2012 thing ever had any relevance especially when knowing that the Mayans had a larger section of time keeping that they obviously couldn't keep up with having... died off and all so any kind of apocalyptic scenario in the near future seemed very unlikely but this first video i am watching is immensely interesting especially because of the subject matter it touches on, and how well it combines events that I would have previously seen as independent happenings.

I will be quite interested in your response after these vids. Not really the 2012/Nibiru thing here, but funny how they are close enough to see how people could come to those conclusions.

Enjoy

Originally posted by Auntie Matter
What better place to train a soul for evolution than to drop it smack into a world that doesn’t appear to make any sense, filled with chaos and division? I would suggest it is to see how you, and you alone, rise to your challenges in your own little corner of the world. If one believes that this life is not the end of it, if life is a series of tests to pass and graduate, what better place to separate the wheat from the chaff?

If there is anything after this life, as Bill Hicks hinted to with this video which someone just passed on to me in another thread i made last night, Its Just A Ride then I would believe your answer to this question would defiantly be the most credible. A question arises from that speculation then, do you believe it is their intention to guide us or is the guidance coming from whatever controls the "after life" and then possible all things that exist? I am by no means a religious person, not to say atheist cuz that's to say you are omniscient and you just know there is no god, there is no way to know that for sure. I am more agnostic, I don't think there is the god of any religion out there but possibly something.

To Daddymax,

The video is quite interesting!! I am incredibly interested in these tools they found supposedly dated for hundreds of thousands of years ago. But alas it was late and I never got to finish watching it so my response is still going to be delayed lol first to food shopping and then to finish watching!! lol

[edit on 23-3-2010 by asafum08]

Originally posted by daddymax
I was recently directed at these vids...which is a plausible answer as to why IMO.

It hit me after watching the first movie and half way thru the second. You know how some people say that movies hint towards what the "NWO" or whoever are doing or want you to think?

Have you seen 2012? arcs that only the rich can get into, and a map that only the ones in the "know" have directing them to it, and they are all located IN THE MOUNTAINS! Its also something to think about seeing as they never gave a real reason for why it happened in that movie, just B.S about the Mayans predicting it. Oh boy lol

Originally posted by asafum08

Originally posted by Auntie Matter
What better place to train a soul for evolution than to drop it smack into a world that doesn’t appear to make any sense, filled with chaos and division? I would suggest it is to see how you, and you alone, rise to your challenges in your own little corner of the world. If one believes that this life is not the end of it, if life is a series of tests to pass and graduate, what better place to separate the wheat from the chaff?

If there is anything after this life, as Bill Hicks hinted to with this video which someone just passed on to me in another thread i made last night, Its Just A Ride then I would believe your answer to this question would defiantly be the most credible. A question arises from that speculation then, do you believe it is their intention to guide us or is the guidance coming from whatever controls the "after life" and then possible all things that exist?
[edit on 23-3-2010 by asafum08]

"Defiantly" = a beautiful Freudian Slip.

To answer your question: I would say both, yet the true guide is the latter.

Originally posted by asafum08

Originally posted by daddymax
I was recently directed at these vids...which is a plausible answer as to why IMO.

It hit me after watching the first movie and half way thru the second. You know how some people say that movies hint towards what the "NWO" or whoever are doing or want you to think?

Have you seen 2012? arcs that only the rich can get into, and a map that only the ones in the "know" have directing them to it, and they are all located IN THE MOUNTAINS! Its also something to think about seeing as they never gave a real reason for why it happened in that movie, just B.S about the Mayans predicting it. Oh boy lol

now you're catchin on...what if the governments of the world discover that there will be a world changing event...and they cant take all of us

who would make it

the elite...obviously

I think 2012 gave the price...1 billion per person

how else do you put the price out for the elite to see, without alerting the rest of us that cannot swing that kind of cash