Induced Climate Change/Weather Warfare

WonderBoi
How long do these people think they can hide what's really going on? This video just resonates TRUTH, on many topics; and will frighten you, as it should!

The above quote from from the OP. The video was not "truth". It was waffle, pseudoscience and unproven opinion. There is no evidence of a conspiracy to geo-engineer the climate on the scale suggested or implied. What frightens me about this type of drivel is that people believe it and seem to have lost the ability to critically question what is being said.

Regards

WonderBoi
and i don't feel like getting banned, again.

Who were you last time you couldn't behave?

paraphi
...What frightens me about this type of drivel is that people believe it and seem to have lost the ability to critically question what is being said.

Quite true.

I personally believe thos persisten trails are just contrails, and that there is no large-scale secret spraying program being done over our heads (for either weather modification or to introduce some chemical/bacteria to humanity).

HOWEVER, when I see a piece of information that seems to AGREE with my notion that there is no such thing as contrails, I still look into the information in an attempt to verify whether or not the information makes sense and is scientifically sound...

...but when some people see a piece of information that agrees with their preconceived notions (such as that those white trails are chemtrails being spread for intentionally nefarious purposes), they seem to be quick to blindly repeat that information with a "Ha! I told you so!", without making an attempt to check the scientific validity of the information.

To some people, the fact that a piece of information agrees with their pre-conceived notions is enough for them to blindly believe that information -- and that is just wrong. Critical thinking and critical questioning are lacking in those types of people.

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Stick with your personal belief then. This topic is not for you. It's for outside the box thinkers. If we left science up to you, we'd still be delivering mail by horse. hahahhahaah Let me guess, you believe in aliens and ufo's, right? hahahahahaha

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You know what frightens me? People that still believe in their government; even though that government has been known to lie, steal, deceive, kill, destroy, etc, etc... I'd rather believe a bunch of "drivel", than a bunch of con artists!

WonderBoi
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Stick with your personal belief then. This topic is not for you. It's for outside the box thinkers. If we left science up to you, we'd still be delivering mail by horse. hahahhahaah Let me guess, you believe in aliens and ufo's, right? hahahahahaha

Critical thinking and critical questioning is for everyone. Critical thinking and "outside the box" thinking are NOT mutually exclusive. In fact, critical questioning IS thinking outside the box.

I would say a person who blindly believes something ONLY because it agrees with their pre-conceived notions are being closed-minded and are NOT thinking outside the box. They are not critically question the information they receive -- if that information agree with their pre-conceived notion, then that is confirmation enough that the information is valid. However, that is not right -- that is not critical thinking, nor is it critically questioning the information.

These people are are instead stuck inside their box (their box that is their pre-conceived notion) without any ability to think critically outside of it.

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WonderBoi
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Stick with your personal belief then. This topic is not for you. It's for outside the box thinkers. If we left science up to you, we'd still be delivering mail by horse. hahahhahaah Let me guess, you believe in aliens and ufo's, right? hahahahahaha

Critical thinking and critical questioning is for everyone. Critical thinking and "outside the box" thinking are NOT mutually exclusive. In fact, critical questioning IS thinking outside the box.

I would say a person who blindly believes something ONLY because it agrees with their pre-conceived notions are being closed-minded and are NOT thinking outside the box. They are instead stuck inside their box (their pre-conceived notion) without any ability to think critically outside of it.

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Aren't you blindly believing and close minded, more so than i? You blindly believe those are CONtrails. Calling everyone else foolish for thinking otherwise. lol I'm not here to convince you. They had the tech way back when. I hardly believe they scrapped it. They just told congress and the American people, what they wanted to hear. What does the D.O.D. have to do with weather???

WonderBoi

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WonderBoi
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Stick with your personal belief then. This topic is not for you. It's for outside the box thinkers. If we left science up to you, we'd still be delivering mail by horse. hahahhahaah Let me guess, you believe in aliens and ufo's, right? hahahahahaha

Critical thinking and critical questioning is for everyone. Critical thinking and "outside the box" thinking are NOT mutually exclusive. In fact, critical questioning IS thinking outside the box.

I would say a person who blindly believes something ONLY because it agrees with their pre-conceived notions are being closed-minded and are NOT thinking outside the box. They are instead stuck inside their box (their pre-conceived notion) without any ability to think critically outside of it.

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Aren't you blindly believing and close minded, more so than i? You blindly believe those are CONtrails. Calling everyone else foolish for thinking otherwise. lol I'm not here to convince you. They had the tech way back when. I hardly believe they scrapped it. They just told congress and the American people, what they wanted to hear. What does the D.O.D. have to do with weather???

I said in one of my posts above that even when I read information that supports my belief that alleged chemtrails are only just contrails that I STILL do my due diligence to verify that the information is scientifically and logically sound.

I do not only blindly believe information just because it seems to support my beliefs.

WonderBoi
I'd rather believe a bunch of "drivel", than a bunch of con artists!

Two wrongs do not make a right. Just because you think politicians are con artists does not make it true that there is a conspiracy to geo-engineer the climate, which is the assertion of your OP.

In fact, the point that politicians and those in power are con artists makes it more difficult to develop such a wide ranging conspiracy, involving so many people. No matter how you cut it, the more corrupt the government the more difficult it has in controlling its constituent parts.

Regards

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What does the D.O.D. have to do with weather???

I'd love to hear what your reply to this Question is.


What does the D.O.D. have to do with weather???

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Google is such a nice tool.

Try it out sometime.

sunnynights
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What does the D.O.D. have to do with weather???

I'd love to hear what your reply to this Question is.


What does the D.O.D. have to do with weather???

I'm not sure what specifically you want me to address (nor did I know what wonderboi was looking for me to address about the Depart of Defense and weather), but I suppose the D.O.D. would care about weather because weather condidtions could affect how conflicts are fought, and how defensive peacekeeping his done.

And, sure -- weather as a weapon is obviously something any government would be interested in. I'm sure that the U.S. and some other governments have pursued the possible use of weather manipulation for use as a weapon. Humans have been trying to manipulate the weather throughout recorded history for various reasons; I have no doubt we are still trying.

I just disagree with the notion that weather manipulation techniques such as cloud seeding is being used on a large scale in order to secretly affect worldwide weather, or to be used as a weapon. I just don't see any evidence of that. Wonderboi is throwing out untruths such as "California and the U.S. pacific coast are in drought because East coast cloud seeding and taking away the moisture". This cannot be true because weather patterns in the U.S. don't travel that direction (they move generally West to East, along with the jet stream).

Cloud seeding is not a secret. It has been done for 50+ years now. Cloud seeding companies are hired by counties in the U.S. with little rain in the hopes of producing rain. Ski resorts hire these cloud seeding companies in order to make it snow. These cloud seeding efforts may be working, but there is no evidence that they are actually affecting precipitation.


So is it possible that the U.S. D.O.D. is looking into possible weather manipulation? Sure, why not. However, does that mean that every time it rains or snows somewhere (or someplace has a drought) that it is due to some nefarious secret conspiracy by the evil government?...

...No,it doesn't.

If this thread is about the general idea that people, governments, and the military would like to control the weather, then I'd agree that they would like to do that. Just show me that they are (and I mean on a large scale).


By the way, the government agency the studies the weather is the National Weather Service and NOAA (The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), which in turn is part of the Department of Commerce. Weather can affect interstate commerce, so that's why it is under the purview of that department. So most of the study of the weather in the U.S. is done by the Department of Commerce.

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They also claim there is no such thing as reptilians from center Earth.

Well I do know that Donald Rumsfeld has neither admitted nor denied being one.



I couldn't help myself after you asked that.

So it isn't off topic the gov't is not controlling the weather.

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Let me guess, you believe in aliens and ufo's,

What's wrong with that?

You believe in chemtrails.

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Let me guess, you believe in aliens and ufo's,

tsurfer2000h
What's wrong with that?
You believe in chemtrails.

I suppose I will answer that, even though I found that part of wonderboi's question irrelevant (that' may be why I glossed over it in my mind when I read it)...

...I definitely believe that Aliens (other life out there in the universe) almost surely exist. Anyone with a basic understanding of the sheer size and scope of the cosmos should feel the same way. I just can't believe that in the whole vastness of the universe that the only place that has life is this tiny spec of virtual nothingness that we call "Earth".

However, I don't feel there is enough evidence for me to believe that the earth is being visited by aliens. I'm not saying it is impossible -- I'm just saying I don't see evidence that it is happening.

WonderBoi[/url]
Let me guess, you believe in aliens and ufo's,

tsurfer2000h
What's wrong with that?
You believe in chemtrails.

I suppose I will answer that, even though I found that part of wonderboi's question irrelevant (that may be why I glossed over it in my mind when he first posted it)...

...I definitely believe that Aliens (other life out there in the universe) almost surely exist. Anyone with a basic understanding of the sheer size and scope of the cosmos should feel the same way. I just can't believe that in the whole vastness of the universe that the only place that has life is this tiny spec of virtual nothingness that we call "Earth".

However, I don't feel there is enough evidence for me to believe that the earth is being visited by aliens. I'm not saying it is impossible -- I'm just saying I don't see evidence that it is happening.

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sunnynights
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What does the D.O.D. have to do with weather???

I'd love to hear what your reply to this Question is.


What does the D.O.D. have to do with weather???

I'm not sure what specifically you want me to address (nor did I know what wonderboi was looking for me to address about the Depart of Defense and weather), but I suppose the D.O.D. would care about weather because weather condidtions could affect how conflicts are fought, and how defensive peacekeeping his done.

And, sure -- weather as a weapon is obviously something any government would be interested in. I'm sure that the U.S. and some other governments have pursued the possible use of weather manipulation for use as a weapon. Humans have been trying to manipulate the weather throughout recorded history for various reasons; I have no doubt we are still trying.

I just disagree with the notion that weather manipulation techniques such as cloud seeding is being used on a large scale in order to secretly affect worldwide weather, or to be used as a weapon. I just don't see any evidence of that. Wonderboi is throwing out untruths such as "California and the U.S. pacific coast are in drought because East coast cloud seeding and taking away the moisture". This cannot be true because weather patterns in the U.S. don't travel that direction (they move generally West to East, along with the jet stream).

Cloud seeding is not a secret. It has been done for 50+ years now. Cloud seeding companies are hired by counties in the U.S. with little rain in the hopes of producing rain. Ski resorts hire these cloud seeding companies in order to make it snow. These cloud seeding efforts may be working, but there is no evidence that they are actually affecting precipitation.


So is it possible that the U.S. D.O.D. is looking into possible weather manipulation? Sure, why not. However, does that mean that every time it rains or snows somewhere (or someplace has a drought) that it is due to some nefarious secret conspiracy by the evil government?...

...No,it doesn't.

If this thread is about the general idea that people, governments, and the military would like to control the weather, then I'd agree that they would like to do that. Just show me that they are (and I mean on a large scale).


By the way, the government agency the studies the weather is the National Weather Service and NOAA (The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), which in turn is part of the Department of Commerce. Weather can affect interstate commerce, so that's why it is under the purview of that department. So most of the study of the weather in the U.S. is done by the Department of Commerce.

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Thanks for the reply Sorry for the late reply its been a big week, drought +heat

Through history from my understanding (Popeye for example), records have been kept of private and military ventures into the unknown world of aerial release of some known harmless and some known harmful substances, some unintentionally and some intentionally.
Just for the record, I have never claimed we are being sprayed by commercial jets with passengers travelling in them, nor is it in the fuel , what crap- no offence to anyone who believes that but if you’re going to release a mass amount of substance over head you’d use the full capacity of the vessels transporting ability wouldn’t you??
Exactly how many known military and military contracted aircraft are in the air every 24 hours???
Comprehending contrail formation, a basic high school education will do that.
What I do Claim is we’re not often given any, let alone full disclosure of projects and or operations that may have, can, did in the past, and has the prudential to affected/infected any of the inhabitants this planet creates and supports till death included, Us, land and water animals, VEGITATION=FOOD , in general I’m mention life.
Without the earth, man or woman can’t eat, they can’t eat the cant breed, and if they can’t breed they die. The survival of each other should be our first concern from where I stand.

The excuse for some to deny that secret military aerial release operations may, can, did, and have without full disclosure, been used against our fellow men and women and all life in targeted areas is the word chemtrail.
Being ignorant of natural law is no excuse. Being party to the cover up is at least failure of one’s duty of care.
I believe the Punishment will fit the crime eventually.

tsurfer2000h
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Let me guess, you believe in aliens and ufo's,

What's wrong with that?

You believe in chemtrails.

I believe in what i've seen through research. You, on the other hand, have blind faith. You blindly believe the government would never. Need i remind you of 9-11? Nothing but lies; even to this day! I hope you know, all the posts you make, regarding "chemtrails", is blowing your cover. Might want to tone it down a bit, to keep your secrecy under wraps. You're certainly not into truth or facts, just covering up of lies.