Chemtrails....EPIC FAIL!

I like the theory that they were created for ATS members to throw a negative thread up and gain flags and stars or when a pro thread comes up they rag on it and give each other stars with out even indulging in the debate at hand!

reply to post by flammadraco


If you see a flight that you cannot find and it's leaving a trail, please take a picture of it and post it here with the time so some of the airplane gurus and have a crack at identifying it. They seem to know all the cool ways to dig stuff up. And if you have a genuine mystery, they it might point in the other direction.

reply to post by network dude

network dude
If chemtrail were real, and they have been going on since the 1990s, they haven't done anything. They failed.

When asked what chemtrails are for, you will get a multitude of answers, some almost sound reasonable, and some are outright loony. But to date, every reason for them has failed.

1. Reduce Global Warming = fail
2. Population contrail = fail
3. Hide Niburu = Actually that one did work since we cannot see it.
4. Give everyone Morgleions disease. = fail

I am open to the new and improved chemtrail theories as to why they exist. Just please, be a little more creative. The younger generation can only be fooled with BS for a bit longer, then even they will start asking questions.

Personally if you forced me to swing one way or the other, I would say they don't exist.

But the fact that you have said they definitely don't exist and the fact that you have said they have had no effect what so-ever, to me proves you haven't thought this through and you are on the wrong site.

IF they do exist, do you know what the world would be like without them? No, you don't.
For all you know, some weather disasters may have been caused by them. They may have stabalised some weather,they may have been increasing some kind of disease or some kind of insect.
You simply can't say for sure that they don't exist and haven't had any effect.

reply to post by b14warrior


Contrails exist. I can say that with absolute certainty. They act just like clouds and can persist for minutes, or hours.
I have looked into just about every aspect of this conspiracy.

Contrails have in impact on temperature. (localized) and depending on the conditions, they could blanket the sky and hold mid-day temps in during the night. But none of that explains why the have to be bad juice sprayed by the government. Everything seems to point to them just being contrails. Unless you have some new evidence?

PLAYERONE01
I like the theory that they were created for ATS members to throw a negative thread up and gain flags and stars or when a pro thread comes up they rag on it and give each other stars with out even indulging in the debate at hand!

like you just did?

you cant just say they "dont exist" are they plausible or not plausible and of course the amount of chemical tests Governments have carried out on there people in the past (especially the American Government) you would be naive to say or try to imply to others that they are not plausible in any way.

m.bbc.co.uk...

BBC article from 1/7/14 about geoengineering and a potential negative impact.

I've never been into chemtrails because once I read pilots on ATS debunking they myth by explaining what they have to know about the engine on board that pretty much sealed the deal for me in terms of debunking.

However recently when I hear the theory of cooling the planet and then this BBC article comes out, well now you have my attention.

To the OP, maybe the chemtrails failed? And not the actual conspiracy failed?

The BBC article basically states the idea behind chemtrails, but not an actual conspiracy.

network dude
reply to post by flammadraco

 

If you see a flight that you cannot find and it's leaving a trail, please take a picture of it and post it here with the time so some of the airplane gurus and have a crack at identifying it. They seem to know all the cool ways to dig stuff up. And if you have a genuine mystery, they it might point in the other direction.

The unregistered flights were mainly from about 5 years ago when I first got my IPad 1 and downloaded the first flight app. As mentioned in my previous post, if Chemtrails are real, then whoever is involved is more than capable registering their flights on any app as something else. Do you agree?

reply to post by network dude


mine was indifferent and stating the obvious.

reply to post by PLAYERONE01


Plausible, sure, possible, sure, likely,....um no.
If you fully understand contrails, airplanes, and weather, there is no other conclusion you can come to.
Plus you have the fact that the chemtrail pushers keep lying to promote their agenda. If it were real, they wouldn't need to lie.

reply to post by network dude


You've missed the point of my response. It was not about the debate of whether they exist or not, it was about the fact that it is impossible to say if they have or have not had an effect.

flammadraco
if Chemtrails are real, then whoever is involved is more than capable registering their flights on any app as something else. Do you agree?

Sure they could. But then what about the ground personnel that are waiting for a non existent plane to land? After a few flights that seem to disappear, don't you think someone would ask a few questions?

reply to post by Argyll


I agree that there is more plane traffic but the crisscrossing I've seen gives me pause. I'm in the I-5 corridor about halfway between Vancouver BC and San Diego; the 'real' planes flying over here are going N-S to and from all the big cities in that same corridor. There's precious little traffic going W to E and back again in my area (for one thing, 'west' would be Hawaii or Tokyo, an uncommon starting point for any flights going into the midwest or even Reno, they would go to a more common hub first); there's no reason that the sky should sometimes, just sometimes, look like a checkerboard with contrails that start out kinda normal and then morph into complete cloud cover on an otherwise sunny day.

Has anyone ever done any research into the possible reasons, like different fuel mixes from in the past, that could account for the continuance of trails for more than a few minutes, given different altitudes, humidity and temperatures?

I don't think better more fuel efficient engines would explain it, and we have reports of private companies that are doing 'weather modification' work but who refuse to talk about who is hiring them or what they're spraying.

This isn't about conspiracy theories, it's about transparency regarding the very air we're breathing. If there's a good reason for it, it'd be damn nice if the public were in on the reasoning behind it.

reply to post by network dude


lol, your really trolling for a debate today arnt you. if your Government spends over 52billion a year in black ops, why would the sheep know what they are spraying

b14warrior
reply to post by network dude

 

You've missed the point of my response. It was not about the debate of whether they exist or not, it was about the fact that it is impossible to say if they have or have not had an effect.

I am basing that on all the reasons I have heard for them to exist. Remember, if they are an intentional thing that some government is spending billions on and then doing the most extensive cover up in history, they must have a purpose. All the things I listed have been proven to not be factors. We are living longer than ever before, Global warming seems to still be an issue. (the cause is up for grabs), We don't have massive amounts of folks with Morgelions disease.

What are they for?

network dude
What are they for?

Pareidolia producing pervasive sky cover.

PLAYERONE01
reply to post by network dude

 

lol, your really trolling for a debate today arnt you. if your Government spends over 52billion a year in black ops, why would the sheep know what they are spraying

Yes, I am having a slow day and this forum seems to have died out. I was just pouring some fresh fuel on the fire. Just as all the other threads do.

reply to post by signalfire


Actually the newer engines are a perfect answer when coupled with the amount of air traffic in the sky. If you see a flight that you think shouldn't exist, then photograph it and bring it here. The airplane guys will research it and identify it.
There really are a lot of planes in the sky most of the time.

reply to post by signalfire

I don't think better more fuel efficient engines would explain it, and we have reports of private companies that are doing 'weather modification' work but who refuse to talk about who is hiring them or what they're spraying.

Really...

weathermodification.com...

Nothing secret about them.

Never mind the chemical contrails, what the heck is this dreaded Morgleions disease!