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RickinVa
people are allowing themselves to get caught by efforts of others to change the subject.
Talking about dams vs nuclear power is pure thread drift.
Again, would anybody like to talk about the new high reading 0f 3,100,000 bq per liter of beta emitters taken at test well 1-16 on 1/20/14?
www.tepco.co.jp...
Anybody?
Doesn't matter what well the sample was taken from so don't go there.....I don't care if it came from the mens toilet in the control room, it's strictly about the new record level that was recorded and the fact that here we are almost 3 years later and they are still finding new record levels? That just doesn't make logical sense and doesn't make a very good case for "containment".
Please try to stick to the topic of Fukushima and radiation from it. Debating the virtues of nuclear power belongs in another forum altogether.edit on R272014-01-23T14:27:42-06:00k271Vpm by RickinVa because: (no reason given)edit on R322014-01-23T14:32:29-06:00k321Vpm by RickinVa because: (no reason given)edit on R482014-01-23T15:48:21-06:00k481Vpm by RickinVa because: (no reason given)edit on R482014-01-23T15:48:55-06:00k481Vpm by RickinVa because: (no reason given)
raymundoko
reply to post by wishes
You just don't understand what you are reading. Those are tank readings from INSIDE the plant.
Edit: Dragon beat me to it. Basically classic example of skimming something you aren't familiar with and going paranoid over it.edit on 23-1-2014 by raymundoko because: (no reason given)
Obviously reading one of the tanks alerted them to a problem and let me tell you why. When you see the beta particles jump up it tells you there is a low level of water in that tank. Which means the tank is broken and allowing water to seep out as the water leaves the tank leaving stuff like tritium behind the amount per liter increases. This radiation level is not and repeat is not what is leaking into the environment its a tank reading from one of their wells.
donlashway
reply to post by dragonridr
prior post
Fukushima Diary has been following this for months and has been posted.
Fukushima Diary
edit on 23-1-2014 by donlashway because: (no reason given)
And about those zones you were discussing isn't that where poor people go ?edit on 23-1-2014 by donlashway because: (no reason given)
Obviously reading one of the tanks alerted them to a problem and let me tell you why. When you see the beta particles jump up it tells you there is a low level of water in that tank. Which means the tank is broken and allowing water to seep out as the water leaves the tank leaving stuff like tritium behind the amount per liter increases. This radiation level is not and repeat is not what is leaking into the environment its a tank reading from one of their wells.
I would sleep a lot better if you could provide any sort of documentation, procedure, manual, pictures, reference or a commercially available system you have in a trade magazine ? My understanding is the Fukushima prints are unavailable.edit on 23-1-2014 by donlashway because: (no reason given)
dragonridr
RickinVa
people are allowing themselves to get caught by efforts of others to change the subject.
Talking about dams vs nuclear power is pure thread drift.
Again, would anybody like to talk about the new high reading 0f 3,100,000 bq per liter of beta emitters taken at test well 1-16 on 1/20/14?
www.tepco.co.jp...
Anybody?
Doesn't matter what well the sample was taken from so don't go there.....I don't care if it came from the mens toilet in the control room, it's strictly about the new record level that was recorded and the fact that here we are almost 3 years later and they are still finding new record levels? That just doesn't make logical sense and doesn't make a very good case for "containment".
Please try to stick to the topic of Fukushima and radiation from it. Debating the virtues of nuclear power belongs in another forum altogether.edit on R272014-01-23T14:27:42-06:00k271Vpm by RickinVa because: (no reason given)edit on R322014-01-23T14:32:29-06:00k321Vpm by RickinVa because: (no reason given)edit on R482014-01-23T15:48:21-06:00k481Vpm by RickinVa because: (no reason given)edit on R482014-01-23T15:48:55-06:00k481Vpm by RickinVa because: (no reason given)
This is why people who have no clue about a nuclear plant should not try to read their reports. Do you realize there are hundreds of wells onsite they lead to their underground storage tanks where the heavy water is located. i heard somewhere about 300 tons of coolant water is stored meaning that be at least 800 tanks most likely more.When they built the plant they would build an underground tanks to store all that water! Obviously reading one of the tanks alerted them to a problem and let me tell you why. When you see the beta particles jump up it tells you there is a low level of water in that tank. Which means the tank is broken and allowing water to seep out as the water leaves the tank leaving stuff like tritium behind the amount per liter increases. This radiation level is not and repeat is not what is leaking into the environment its a tank reading from one of their wells. notice how another tank taken the same day yet only 30 feet away is much lower. It tells us that well is holding its water like it was meant to. What you want is environmental studies not there well readings if you want to determine the amount of radiation in the environment.It does let them know that water seeping out of the tank may be entering ground water but in what amounts would require offshore readings.
Ps i will chk the net see if they posted environmental studies probably only do them every couple of months there exhaustive and cost alot of money.edit on 1/23/14 by dragonridr because: (no reason given)
RickinVa
dragonridr
RickinVa
people are allowing themselves to get caught by efforts of others to change the subject.
Talking about dams vs nuclear power is pure thread drift.
Again, would anybody like to talk about the new high reading 0f 3,100,000 bq per liter of beta emitters taken at test well 1-16 on 1/20/14?
www.tepco.co.jp...
Anybody?
Doesn't matter what well the sample was taken from so don't go there.....I don't care if it came from the mens toilet in the control room, it's strictly about the new record level that was recorded and the fact that here we are almost 3 years later and they are still finding new record levels? That just doesn't make logical sense and doesn't make a very good case for "containment".
Please try to stick to the topic of Fukushima and radiation from it. Debating the virtues of nuclear power belongs in another forum altogether.edit on R272014-01-23T14:27:42-06:00k271Vpm by RickinVa because: (no reason given)edit on R322014-01-23T14:32:29-06:00k321Vpm by RickinVa because: (no reason given)edit on R482014-01-23T15:48:21-06:00k481Vpm by RickinVa because: (no reason given)edit on R482014-01-23T15:48:55-06:00k481Vpm by RickinVa because: (no reason given)
This is why people who have no clue about a nuclear plant should not try to read their reports. Do you realize there are hundreds of wells onsite they lead to their underground storage tanks where the heavy water is located. i heard somewhere about 300 tons of coolant water is stored meaning that be at least 800 tanks most likely more.When they built the plant they would build an underground tanks to store all that water! Obviously reading one of the tanks alerted them to a problem and let me tell you why. When you see the beta particles jump up it tells you there is a low level of water in that tank. Which means the tank is broken and allowing water to seep out as the water leaves the tank leaving stuff like tritium behind the amount per liter increases. This radiation level is not and repeat is not what is leaking into the environment its a tank reading from one of their wells. notice how another tank taken the same day yet only 30 feet away is much lower. It tells us that well is holding its water like it was meant to. What you want is environmental studies not there well readings if you want to determine the amount of radiation in the environment.It does let them know that water seeping out of the tank may be entering ground water but in what amounts would require offshore readings.
Ps i will chk the net see if they posted environmental studies probably only do them every couple of months there exhaustive and cost alot of money.edit on 1/23/14 by dragonridr because: (no reason given)
Thanks for providing evidence that just backs up what we already know,,,, water leaks at Fukushima is a serious issue.
RickinVa
You know, sometimes the irony of Fukushima astounds me.
We can put a man on the moon.
We can rendezvous a probe to a land on an asteroid in outer space.
We can send robots to Mars.
Tepco can't even get a single camera down what ever is left of 3 reactors to tell us exactly where the cores went. As far as we know, that is.
It never ceases to amaze me, it truly doesn't.
Finding out the exact state of the melted cores is very important to be able to assess long term damage.... here we are almost 3 years later and we still do not know. Incredible to say the least.
Michio Kaku says at time index 3m40s in the following video that they did put cameras in the reactors:
RickinVa
Tepco can't even get a single camera down what ever is left of 3 reactors to tell us exactly where the cores went. As far as we know, that is.
See above video where starting at just before 3 minutes, Michio Kaku says that the core in unit 2 is completely molten. If the core is completely molten in unit 2, would that mean there are no fuel rods to remove?
dragonridr
The cores didnt go anywhere the core is simply an area where a nuclear reaction can occur. In a reactor fuel rods are hung in a reaction chamber. with lead shielding separating them you want to increase the reaction rate you raise the shielding want to stop it you lower them completely. This is what was done now there in the process of removing the fuel rods themselves and placing them into pools of water. This is complicated because most of the equipment to remove the rods was destroyed so its a very slow process.
dragonridr
RickinVa
You know, sometimes the irony of Fukushima astounds me.
We can put a man on the moon.
We can rendezvous a probe to a land on an asteroid in outer space.
We can send robots to Mars.
Tepco can't even get a single camera down what ever is left of 3 reactors to tell us exactly where the cores went. As far as we know, that is.
It never ceases to amaze me, it truly doesn't.
Finding out the exact state of the melted cores is very important to be able to assess long term damage.... here we are almost 3 years later and we still do not know. Incredible to say the least.
The cores didnt go anywhere the core is simply an area where a nuclear reaction can occur. In a reactor fuel rods are hung in a reaction chamber. with lead shielding separating them you want to increase the reaction rate you raise the shielding want to stop it you lower them completely. This is what was done now there in the process of removing the fuel rods themselves and placing them into pools of water. This is complicated because most of the equipment to remove the rods was destroyed so its a very slow process.
Dr. Caldicott spoke to a standing room only crowd at the Faulkner Gallery in Santa Barbara on Friday 23 March 2012 on "The Medical Implications of Fukushima, Nuclear Power and Nuclear Proliferation".[citation needed]
TEPCO has been facing severe criticism for its failed management of contaminated water at the Fukushima Daiichi plant. Katsuhiko Ikeda, the secretary general for the Nuclear Regulation Authority, said in October that many of the problems at the crippled facility are caused by a lack of basic checks. During test runs in June, TEPCO identified that some of the batch treatment tanks had holes in the welds. In July, the ALPS system was shut down for inspections after corroded parts and other problems were identified. The system failed again in September after a rubber sheet left in one of the tanks obstructed the flow of water and clogged a drain. In October, the system was shut down due to programming errors and mistakes. Last month, the system was shut down once again, after the water which was being processed began to corrode one of the tanks. Critics are worried that TEPCO is relying too much on the ALPS system and do not have enough contingency options if the system is unable to perform as expected.
2 The Latest Measurement Result
Date Iodine-131 Caesium-134 Caesium-137
January 20(Monday)
Not detected Not detected Not detected
※Not detected indicates that the radiation levels do not exceed the detection limit.