Gun Nuts attack singer for no-gun restaurants

CB328
Am I the only one who thinks that calling someone an America-hater for not wanting weapons of destruction in their business is crazy? Really the obnoxiousness and downright stupidity of gun worshippers has gotten so far out of hand I think it is irreparable. Mad Max here we come:

Toby Keith under fire for no guns policy at his restaurant chain

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As opposed to those weapons of non-destruction?

Ohhhh, I get it. By calling them "Weapons of Destruction" you're making a reference to Saddam's non-existent WMD's which were the casus belli for us going into Iraq. Ha, ha. But seriously. Some of us are pro-gun and anti-imperialism.

This story is just a chance for you to call gun owners stupid crazy and obnoxious. How's that tolerance coming along?

Really? Mad Max? I mean the reason people collect guns is because they think we will have a doomsday scenario, for which, of course they are mocked and lampooned. But you seem to think that people having guns will somehow cause infrastructure collapse and total lawlessness that not even Obama's heavily armed secret police force can control. OK. Nice fantasy life you have there.

Calling someone a "gun nut" is like calling them a "free speech nut" or a "free elections nut."

badgerprints
His restaurant, his rules.
If he doesn't want people drinking while having firearms in his place then he's probably smarter than the average bear.
It's not like people can't leave their guns in the locked car.
I don't let people who are drinking have guns in my home.

Gun Nuts are STUPID..

They want to live in some manufactured 1800's type existence based on CLint Eastwood and John Wayne movies.

Yet they, as being the idiots they are, forget to Read history. If they did, they would see that even the Wild West had rules.

People couldn't walk around flaunting their hardware. If a town had a rule against carrying in town, it was enforced. And more towns had a no gun rule than those that allowed them. The guns were for when riding into town as a means to protect against bandits.

Furthermore, why get involved if someone robs a store? The owner of the establishment has insurance anyway and will be reimbursed.

And is shooting someone in the back after they steal a few hundred bucks really worth it.
And if being taken out by a madman shooting up the place is the fear, then don't drive there, as that is 1,000 times more likely to be where you would meet your maker.

How many patrons have been killed from being in a restaurant nationwide? How many times has that actually happened?

Bassago

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
do they not understand?

Of course if they do not like the Bill of Rights they could always move.

If your going to quote it at least have the nerve to quote it all and not just pick and choice the bit to empathises.


BTW
Everyone should be free to own guns but people should be free to ban them from there property. Dont like it dont go there simple.

One should not be forced to give up guns nor should gun lovers be able to force guns on those that dont want them.

In MURICA, yew have 2 sides.

The gawd-fearing gun owners who have the right to be as loud and as stupid as they wish.

And yew have the commie-muslim-freedom-haters who spit on babies and want to see MURICA destroyed.

MURICA!

*grunt*

AngryCymraeg


I think that the days of a possible British invasion via Canada are long since over now, don't you?

We wouldnt want the colonies back even if they came begging and crawling back

China might want you though

personal poll.

What would you prefer, an establishment that sell alcohol to allow people to carry a gun?

Or an alcohol selling establishment that did NOT allow guns?


Me, I don't want a bunch of idiot gun owners (most of them VOID of adequate weapon training) sitting at a dinner table having a few drinks..

Why?, chances are they will bring up Obama.. and how EVERYTHING is his fault, and how their God wants them ALL to be rich.. And I, after a half hour of Obama railing, would ask them to tone it down and breathe through their noses for a change.

HanzHenry

badgerprints
His restaurant, his rules.
If he doesn't want people drinking while having firearms in his place then he's probably smarter than the average bear.
It's not like people can't leave their guns in the locked car.
I don't let people who are drinking have guns in my home.

Gun Nuts are STUPID..

1. What part of my post are you arguing with? Aside from the fact that I didn't say something bad about "gun nuts"

badgerprints

HanzHenry

badgerprints
His restaurant, his rules.
If he doesn't want people drinking while having firearms in his place then he's probably smarter than the average bear.
It's not like people can't leave their guns in the locked car.
I don't let people who are drinking have guns in my home.

Gun Nuts are STUPID..

1. What part of my post are you arguing with? Aside from the fact that I didn't say something bad about "gun nuts"

Gun "nut" ?

or is being a "nut" now a complement?

HanzHenry

Gun Nuts are STUPID..

I agree, and that is why most guns use screws that are staked...wouldn't want that little sucker backing off at the wrong moment would we.


I was driving to work the other day and on the news they were interviewing a sheriff who was retiring and during that conversation he was talking about the trials and tribulations the different departments have faced in the last 10 years or so. He went on to say one county close to me with 240,000 residence that covered a wide area only had 6 deputies.

Makes one wonder if there is really anyone there to help in a time of need whether you are Pro or Con guns. I think many people are living in a fairytale that the cops are minutes away at any given time. This might have been correct in the past but today I think many have their head in a hole not really wanting to know the truth to just how well they are protected.

HanzHenry

badgerprints

HanzHenry

badgerprints
His restaurant, his rules.
If he doesn't want people drinking while having firearms in his place then he's probably smarter than the average bear.
It's not like people can't leave their guns in the locked car.
I don't let people who are drinking have guns in my home.

Gun Nuts are STUPID..

1. What part of my post are you arguing with? Aside from the fact that I didn't say something bad about "gun nuts"

Gun "nut" ?

or is being a "nut" now a complement?

Nope.
I was ignoring it.
I'm just trying to figure out what point you were trying to make regarding my post that you quoted.

While I'll agree that everyone has the right to their own opinion. How the hell does either side (pro-gun/anti-gun) have the the right to infringe on the other?

Why cant we just agree to disagree? Wheres the tolerance?

Look...we wouldnt all be on this site if we didnt all share some common ground. Why would ATS of places want to form divides such as? What happened people?

I feel real strongly about my own morals and ideals but not to the point that I can find anything constructive about personally attacking anothers views.

We in America have all rights to our own beliefs. Regardless of how others feel about it. The beauty of it is that if you feel strongly enough about something you also have a right to form activist groups and try to change the laws if you deem it necessary.

But, why cause a divide and attack your fellow man over his belief? What will that solve, but to deteriorate We The People?

Im just rambling now.....it just hurts to see so many intelligent people sucked into this pissing contest without ever looking at other options other than to attack the opposing ideals.

amazing
His Restaurant, his rules. I don't see the problem. If you don't like it, or if you don't feel safe, then don't go in there. Problem solved.

My thoughts also. It's probably an over priced food joint playing country music non stop.

It's good to see everyone agreeing that a business owner has the right to run his business as he sees fit and can deny service to people as he sees fit.

That is, unless you're a bakery in Colorado. Then you aren't allowed.

So this guy has a sign outside that says "No guns allowed." Wow! I'm impressed! I figure that will work about as well as the sign on the door of a mall, or outside a high school.

So let's just say you have someone who is disgruntled because of an affair gone bad and want to shoot up the place where his ex works as a waitress. It's not like that's never happened, right?

So he goes to the restaurant, sees the "No guns allowed" outside, and he thinks, what?

a) Oh, darn. I guess I can't take a gun in there.
b) Hmm, I'm guessing no one else has a gun in there.

That's why having a sign like that may be proclaiming your political stance, but what it REALLY says is:

"Unarmed victims inside."

If the same guy had a sign that said:

"This establishment protected by Smith & Wesson three days a week. You guess which three."

Then what do you think our perp would be thinking?

a) That sign is just a lie.
b) I think maybe this was a bad idea.

The guy has his rights. Good for him. My gun is concealed. What's he gonna do? Strip search me? People also have a right to discuss his decision, just as you question someone who chooses to pack. Both of you have a right of free speech, so have at it. In my view people have a false sense of safety if they believe a "no guns" sign. My reaction is to not patronize the restaurant. So if the perp ignores the sign and comes in blazing away, good luck to you. I'm sure hiding under the table will help.

Sovaka
This is no different to when a cafe banned mothers from openly breast feeding in their establishments.

Only in this case, it is guns.

Guns at the moment, are a hot political topic.
Expect it to be sensationalized.

I never saw a woman kill someone with her breasts.
(Excepting a few Tarantino movies)

I'm finding this argument amusing... once again. I see all these folks saying, "If something goes..." Life is full of "ifs". If(pun intended) you feel that you aren't safe without a gun you've got a lot more to worry about than getting shot. Like enjoying your life without fear.

beezzer
It's good to see everyone agreeing that a business owner has the right to run his business as he sees fit and can deny service to people as he sees fit.

That is, unless you're a bakery in Colorado. Then you aren't allowed.

I get point with the Colorado bakery thing.

But,
They aren't being denied services.
He is simply not allowing the possession of firearms in the establishment.
People can leave the gun at home or in the car.

Nobody has a gun permanently attached to a body part.
(except, once again, in a Tarantino movie.)

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He is denying services.

If you are in possession of a firearm.

beezzer
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He is denying services.

If you are in possession of a firearm.

Is that not his right? And why is that any different than this?

beezzer
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He is denying services.

If you are in possession of a firearm.

No shirt, No shoes, No service.
Seen the signs?
Where's the outrage?

This is common sense. Not politics.