Chinese Naval Vessel Tries to Force U.S. Warship to Stop in International Waters

reply to post by AutumnWitch657


Now if with those deep pocket could come some respect for others it would have been nice.
Minding own business would also have been nice. Fixing once own problems might have been cheaper that making war all over the world to hide your own issues too. If you did that you might have suffer a bit of embarrassment but would not have been the worlds most indebted country in the world.
Ohh btw you dont have the deepest pockets just the fastest printers. Se the rest of the world know the meaning of the word restraint.

AutumnWitch657
reply to post by ken10

 

Dear Kenny are you still holding the revolution against us ?
Understandable since this is such a beautiful and geographically diverse nation while England is ....well ...damp.

I have nothing against Americans, But your government is not your government, it panders to corporate agenda's....To the point you are referred to as the United Corporations of America. And when criticised we have many as yerself that jump to its defence....I don't get it, you know your government does wrong, you've heard of Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning, they been telling you how corrupt your government is for a while now yet you still can't take criticism.

reply to post by ken10


Its like people with substance abuse issues. You can see its wrong and what it does to you but the mind refuse to accept it.

I think part of this may be off-topic, forgive me.

I have noticed an increase in the efforts of some to derail threads lately. The techniques are nearly identical. Create a straw man, knock it down, keep knocking it down regardless of any facts or logic introduced, throw in some barely related charges of evil doing, and insult the other posters as much as possible without quite crossing into T&C violations. The Mods respond to the people who get overheated in defending against these disruptors, and everything continues until the sane just give up and walk away, leaving the disruptors claiming victory and vindication.

In an effort to turn this thread away from some of the barely sane comments of disruptors, I'd like to ask a question.

Does this action by China connect directly with their claim of even more waters as territorial and their claimed expanded air space? I know these are largely directed against Japan and Japan is an ally, but we haven't been treating our allies very well in the last five years.

Has China calculated that they can force Obama to back down (again), leaving Japan on it's own? If Obama is unwilling to consider military action, perhaps all we're doing is bluffing and China is prepared to call it.

reply to post by butcherguy


ive always wondered about sailors looking at each other. do you ever wave to them, or at least back at the guy whom you 2 are eye to eye in binoculars.

or is that inappropriate lol

butcherguy

Hardly provocative.
I watched Soviet vessels performing surveillance on our ships while we were on maneuvers. They were close enough that I could see their sailors on the deck and we didn't attempt anything forceful with them.... because we were in International waters.

Fishing trawlers usually. Only they had an awful lot of antennae...

reply to post by ken10


And that has what to do with the Chinese captain acting like some spastic moron almost causing a flare up in international waters?


Have you noticed whats been going in China lately? I see thousands of business internationals. Many are now starting to refer to them as China.inc

reply to post by Mindmonopoly


You hind behind a curtain of anonymity monopoly. Where do you call home?

reply to post by ken10


You really should learn history. The US AVG was in China prior to December 7th. They were all pilots that had been "discharged" from the US military, and volunteered. They were recalled and replaced by regular Army units after Pearl Harbor.

reply to post by ken10


See that's all that conspiracy theory stuff. If you really believe everything you read on ATS then you know we also hold alien technology. Better beware. LOL.

SLAYER69
reply to post by ken10

 

And that has what to do with the Chinese captain acting like some spastic moron almost causing a flare up in international waters?

As I posted back on page one, No different to the US pilots that warned off Iranian planes in International airspace !

Have you noticed whats been going in China lately? I see thousands of business internationals. Many are now starting to refer to them as China.inc

I don't think they have bases in what, 170 countries, imposing their agendas on others with the use of Drones killing thousands of innocent civilians in the process.

Oh, and from what I have seen reported China executes those that are corrupt, no matter how big a fish it was.....Honor seems to be a big thing to them.

I'M OUT OF HERE. HAVE FUN WITH YOUR PISSING CONTEST BOYS.
BTW no one posted pics of those waving penises which is why I stuck around in the first place. Oh and somethings up in Korea now if you want to move south for a bit. Something about an execution.

reply to post by MystikMushroom


Because the Chinese ship was apparently an LST. An LST is in no sense of the weird a warship.

Zaphod58
reply to post by ken10

 

You really should learn history. The US AVG was in China prior to December 7th. They were all pilots that had been "discharged" from the US military, and volunteered. They were recalled and replaced by regular Army units after Pearl Harbor.

I'm confused.....are you saying I was wrong because there were inactive American service men there ?

reply to post by Bisman


When the fighters would intercept Russian aircraft they were occasionally known to swap centerfolds.

reply to post by ken10


They were not inactive at all. The Army regularly resupplied them, provided aircraft, munitions, etc. They were inactive on paper, but they had the full backing of the military and government.

reply to post by Zaphod58


So, officially I was correct, but unofficially the US was involved while claiming neutrality.

reply to post by ken10


And it was before 1941. The AVG is one of the reasons that China held out as well as they did.

AutumnWitch657

BTW no one posted pics of those waving penises which is why I stuck around in the first place.

charles1952
In an effort to turn this thread away from some of the barely sane comments of disruptors, I'd like to ask a question.

Does this action by China connect directly with their claim of even more waters as territorial and their claimed expanded air space? I know these are largely directed against Japan and Japan is an ally, but we haven't been treating our allies very well in the last five years.

Has China calculated that they can force Obama to back down (again), leaving Japan on it's own? If Obama is unwilling to consider military action, perhaps all we're doing is bluffing and China is prepared to call it.

To be honest.

I can kinda sorta see China's side of this. They are a growing economic power and feel they have a right to expand but in which direction? West South West? That takes them into India. West North West? That takes them into Russian Territory. East, North East, South East etc? Japan, South Korea, the Philippine, Australia all of whom are US Allies not to mention US interests or countries who are not really allies but have recently asked for US Naval presence such as Vietnam *If you could imagine that one*

The US and China future regional relations?

I often imagine two obese people trying to sit next to each other on an over crowded bus on a long road trip. Not exactly the most desirable of situations but doable.