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MamaJ
reply to post by AfterInfinity
Looking at it from another angle though..
Math expresses and this expression creates through a process.
AfterInfinity
reply to post by Rex282
What bothers me is your persistent anthropomorphizing of numeric values and their functions. Math is not a person. Math is a process, not a personality.
Rex282VHB, I apologize for my tardy response.....
I saw Joe with a gun in his hand ..I think he was going down south to shoot his old lady.....I could be wrong..
Rex282
On this note....I am not....
First ..I am NOT a mathematician. I'm a musician.It doesn't take a mathematician to calculate these numbers.It probably disqualifies them since none that I know are the least bit interested in these calculations.
Rex282Just to clarify..." the numbers" themselves have "meaning" when they are in ratios.(relationship) calculated in an equation to equal a sum.In other words the number "7" by itself is the number 7...not the "number of "God"..There is no direct "symbolism" that represents a number 7 "entity".
3+4=7 now has a ratio/ relationship(btw 3=Ln2...4=Ln3 7=Ln4)...and of course from there it keeps "spinning" off new ratios dependent on what the numbers represent.
The numbers of the creator God work this way however numbers like ....666 DO NOT!!!=THE ANTICHRIST /Beast(nor is THE Antichrist or beast any number since there is no "antichrist beast"!!! 666 is in a ratio with other "numbers" which spin a multitude of meanings.
Rex282
When I calculate the Fibonacci(Fn) and Lucas number(Ln) sequences I 'm not seeking the "meaning" of the numbers or even the ratios however sometimes the meaning(in a very limited way) are revealed.As with everything the "basis" has to be known first to build upon it. Arithmetic comes before trigonometry.
Rex282
The knowledge of the numbers of the creator God are in the arithmetic stage.Add,subtract,divide,multiply.The first thing that is revealed is the creator Gods numbers are the Fibonacci number(Fn) sequence .The Fn is the basis for how EVERYTHING grows...i.e...LIFE(spirit...God IS spirit)!Just to reiterate they are (signifiers)..the "things" themselves aren't "numbers".For instance God the Father is not "literally the number "1".That signifies the Father in the equation.
Fn0=0Fn1=1Fn0+Fn1=Fn2
That is the first creative act of "summing" a calculation.God the Father is "self replicating".When the creator God(Father Fn1) replicates it creates ....the creator God(Son Fn2).The "equation" is just signifying.The creator God is not "literally" one entity like a material object and then made a duplicate "God" to have "2" Gods.God the Father and God the Son are "1".The creator God IS NOT two persons or entities or essences or ether or...whatever They are "1".( I and the Father ARE "ONE")
Fn0=0
Fn1=1
Fn2=1
That is the "signification" through math of the creator God.The most simple equation there is and everything "grows" from it.That reality is distorted through the lenses of space time continuum(The physical realm).The Fn spiral is also a metaphoric "picture" of what is happening.The Fn not only form a spiral the numbers when calculated a multitude of ways are more spirals (fractals)... self replicating inside of everything.That's why they can be "calculated in a"non" math way.
Fn24 is an excellent example.When calculating 46,368 in physical "realm math" logic you would not add and subtract the "grouped" numbers and come up with a "logical" sum YET the Fn do!!
368-46=322
322 being one of the factors of the sum 46,368(144x322).Procucts of "9" have a similar quirky summing.
46+368=414
414/9=46= # chromosomes
4x6=24(Fn24)
more non logic math logic...
46x368=16,928
1x6x9x2x8=864
864/9=96
864x1,0000=864,000=mean diameter of the Sun.
4x6x3x6x8=3456
3456/864=4
3x4x5x6=360
3456/144=24
3456/9=384
384-24=360
384/4=96
96x6=576=spirit(pnuema in Greek)
free bonus calculations
√144=12
√322=17.94435844492636
12+17.94435844492636=
29.94435844492636
√888=29.79932885150268
..spin ,spin, spin there is a reason spin, spin, spin.
The "spinning fractals" as I call them are inherent in the creator God number sequence.I don't know what they "all" mean".It is impossible to "know" what any of them mean unless it is revealed because they have infinite meaning!The scriptures have some of these numbers written on the "outside" like 666, 144.. others are "below" the surface like 888,543....The vast majority are all hidden from mans perception.The few I calculated are "sign" posts that are evidence pointing to their existence.
It is not a coincidence that
2/3=.666
and
5/3=1.666......
and
89/144=1.6180555555...and 233/144=1.61805555555...
all Fibonacci numbers.
Nor that both 666 and 144 are back to back in the book of "Revelation" and they calculate the most significant ratio in math The Golden ratio of phi/Phi..666 is the most "maligned " number yet 888 is hardly known at all yet 888=Iesous(Yahoshua)..Jesus is the most known name on the planet
on top of that 666 and 888 are in a very significant ratio..as parts of the triple of a Pythagorean right triangle.
666²+888²=1110²
To "tie" them to one meaning is to not know them as numerologist cabbala bible coders and general "theology do with religious mysticism BS. Those interpretations are just "if the facts don't fit the theory,...change the facts".The beauty of the creators God math spinning fractals is they can't be manipulated.They are "written" in everything.`They are what existence is "made" of.They are not "convenient" coincidences. They are not religious "doctrines" that can be manipulated and twisted into something else.They all have functions..real functions..not vague teachings by a method to live life by.
This just a very "small" Introduction.The majority of the numbers I calculated don't have a "specific" interpretation.However the calculation of 666 IS the beginning of phi/Phi signifying the "process" of salvation(growth) into a relationship with the creator God.HOWEVER it is also a multitude of things most of which are and will remain(until needed) unknown. That is it's most prominent"outside" purpose.
The numbers of the creator God are what everything that lives(exists)"sums" to.The definition of spirit is life do the math.
Originally posted by Rex282
I saw Joe with a gun in his hand ..I think he was going down south to shoot his old lady.....I could be wrong..
vethumanbeing
Im certain I am not the only one wanting a better insight. (where did Joe go, not jail again).
vethumanbeing
He U2Ued me, hes been parolled, small problem with that avatar of his, she apparently stole the original six point star standard linen and copyrighted it to use as her own avatar; and Joe had to very quickly substitute (fitting for the moment) a King Kong movie frame; he as Kong, his wife in miniature represented as (Naomi Watts).
vethumanbeing
“she apparently stole the original six point star standard linen and copyrighted it to use as her own avatar ”
vethumanbeing
“his wife in miniature represented as (Naomi Watts).”
Joecroft
Not sure about the everything happening at once outside our planet. Accounts of people visiting the afterlife and having NDE’s experiences, seem to report this lack of time in those realms, but I don’t think it’s a case of everything happending at once but more to do with a lack of a physical body being present.
vethumanbeing
Those that undergo a deep hypnotic state of somnombulistic 'hyperawareness' can travel back and forth in time with ease; no body attached. Its more of pinpointing a time reference one wants to visit, and can do so in spiritform come back and report of what theyve experienced/seen/encountered. There is alot of information regarding this out there (valid and well documented).
MamaJ
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Numbers are what makes letters possible, in my opinion of course.
I want to now go back to page one and go page by page as this thread is one of interest.
I am on a hunt to find out everything and anything I can about Melchizedek.
This gut feeling I have about him is not going away and I want to see if there is a real connection or if I am simply putting more into him than exists. For many reasons I am thinking he was an incarnate of Jesus/Adam. He is not the only one I believe to be an incarnate of Jesus but he is the most mysterious.
I’m curious though, what makes you think Melchizedek, was an earlier incarnation of Jesus…?
www.near-death.com...
Modern research into both near-death experiences and reincarnation, such as that of Dr. Ian Stevenson, suggests there is strong evidence of reincarnation inbeing a scientific fact. Reports of people having past life memories [1][2][3][4][5][6] where specific information is remembered have been documented and verified.
Jesus Reincarnation Index
1. Jesus as a Reincarnation of Adam
2. Jesus as a Reincarnation of Melchizedek
3. Jesus as a Reincarnation of Joseph
4. Jesus as a Reincarnation of Joshua
5. Jesus as a Reincarnation of Buddha
6. Jesus as a Reincarnation of Horus
7. Jesus as a Reincarnation of Krishna
8. Jesus as a Reincarnation of Mithra
9. Edgar Cayce on the Reincarnations of Jesus
"When you see a likeness of yourself, you are happy. But when you see your images that came into being before you, and that neither die nor become visible, how much you will be able to tolerate!" - Jesus Christ, Gospel of Thomas
Joecroft
Not sure about the everything happening at once outside our planet. Accounts of people visiting the afterlife and having NDE’s experiences, seem to report this lack of time in those realms, but I don’t think it’s a case of everything happending at once but more to do with a lack of a physical body being present.
vethumanbeing
Those that undergo a deep hypnotic state of somnombulistic 'hyperawareness' can travel back and forth in time with ease; no body attached. Its more of pinpointing a time reference one wants to visit, and can do so in spiritform come back and report of what theyve experienced/seen/encountered. There is alot of information regarding this out there (valid and well documented).
Joecroft
According to the dictionary definition…somnombulistic = Sleepwalking…Seems more like remote viewing, with a time machine option built in..
Joecroft
The only thing I’m ware of that comes close to what you described above, are a few cases involving psychics, who help the police. Some are capable of seeing the crime in the past, and in a few rare cases, they have seen the purpetrators next crime, in the future, before it took place!
Joecroft
Where can I find some “well documented” information on this 'hyperawareness' …any videos…links…articles etc…?
PS – Happy New Year…- JC
Thomas Campbell, a theoretical physisist that wrote the trilogy "My Big Toe or The Theory of Everything": Unifying Philosophy, Physics, and Metaphysics
The “TOE” in the title of Thomas Campbell’s trilogy means Theory Of Everything: not only the philosophy, physics, and metaphysics mentioned in the subtitle but also the other physical sciences, the social sciences, mathematics, computer science, mind and matter, the normal and the paranormal. “It is the task of this trilogy,” he writes, “to clearly and completely construct your consciousness, your world, your science, and your existence in a general, logical, scientific way that comprehensively explains all the personal and professional data you have collected during a lifetime” (author’s emphasis). Less formally, My Big TOE is a “Reality 101” course, which presents a scientific basis for psi phenomena in a comprehensive pattern of cosmic unfolding. Although Campbell does not incorporate any data from psi research (the TOE is an objective edifice built on a foundation of his own subjective paranormal experiences), he successfully demonstrates the conclusion that “you are an individuated portion of a larger fractal pattern that constitutes All That Is within a digital virtual reality based upon evolving consciousness. . . .”
Rex282
I clearly stated here (and most of my post about the numbers) that the numbers are NOT anthropomorphizing. They signify...define by metaphor.For example a name signifies the "nature" of the thing or person named.The Aramaic Cephas (Petros in Greek Peter in English) means stone but does not literally mean that person is a stone.Yahoshua called Simon that for a reason that is never explained with a "definition" he was signifying by a metaphor.It was only extrapolated later that the newly "named" Peter was the foundational "rock"(not true in the least) of the "new church" and voila a religion is born.
Rex282
The numbers of names have their meaning in ratio calculating through equations.They aren't literal... the number is not the person just as the name isn't yet both are signifying.The higher "degree" of the numbers is they are in an equation that can't be altered or manipulated or "known".It is the creator Gods math.There is no "interpretation" on what it means because it is signifying.It "is" what it "is".(The essence of the name of the creator God)
Rex282
The general consensus of the religious is that "man" can know God by studying all the varying things that were "written" and or "practicing" a religion.I completely disagree.There is no "deciphering" at all of any kind of the scriptures.It was never wrote to be "deciphered" because there is nothing to decipher.The foundation of all that "was" written(which is not what is called the bible of today) is an equation.
Rex282
An "incalculable" equation by the carnal mind of man.The words are the exterior surface and can only be understood by the carnal mind as "babel"...the confusion of language.It has proven to be so by the myriad of "interpretations" in conflict with each other resulting in a myriad of false religions.
Rex282
Any anthropomorphizing is not being done by me ...or the creator God for that matter.It is someone reading "in" to what they want to believe..I am only writing what I know.I am not trying to convince anyone of any of it.I know it is impossible and more importantly.. futile.I am only stating the Fibonacci number sequence is the foundation EVERYTHING is built (created) from.Fn0+Fn1=Fn2....(0+1=1) is the beginning of it all.When that is grasped (revealed) for the simplicity and the infinite complexity it is then....the equation is being revealed.The numbers are "signifying" what is and that signifying is Life...spirit...the creator God is spirit(not "A" spirit).
MamaJ
The meaning of the seal and ring can be found in ancient texts. The blessing, ring, and seal was given by Melchizedek. Its symbolic/symbolism from "heaven". Occult like and ritualistic in nature. Masons are known for their ring, secrets, symbols, and rituals.
Page 29 speaks of this and the "Most High", being Melchizedek. hermetic.com...
I'm wondering if the "Jinns" or the "Ginnis" are spirit guides. I have no idea though.. lots of speculation.
MamaJ
reply to post by Rex282
Oh.. ok... I see. I think. lol
What you are saying makes sense. Are you saying that the Fibonacci sequence is God's math? It is ... what it is without any interpretation to be had?