Another 'Zeta Talk' website. lol

Sophomoric insults and prejudice notwithstanding, I see a need for clarification.

In my opinion and experience, the capricorn, Billy Meier, and ZetaTalk (Nancy Lieder) mystics are not communicating with physical aliens, they are channeling discarnate collectives who are deceiving them into believing that they are communicating with physical aliens in physical spacecraft. I mentioned the incarnate Zetans only as a reference to the pictures that groups like these promote as indirect evidence of extraterrestrial-telepathic contact.

As far as the incarnate Zetans being self-serving and subtly imperialistic, that issue has been addressed in many ATS threads. For more on that topic, I suggest you do a search.

Originally posted by Paul_Richard

In my opinion and experience, the capricorn, Billy Meier, and ZetaTalk (Nancy Lieder) mystics are not communicating with physical aliens, they are channeling discarnate collectives who are deceiving them into believing that they are communicating with physical aliens in physical spacecraft.

keyword, deceiving, it crossed my mind many times, with all sh#$ going on around, how can you know who's crazy, who's beeing deceived and who wants to deceive you? to hell with it all, I get a feeling that we should seek answers within ourselves

I have this nagging feeling that a book could be on the way soon, following
by a cd of the conversations.

Sorry........fake as far as I'm concerned

[edit on 20-12-2004 by madhatter]

fake,but interesting. Fake,but VERY interesting
I wonder how people come up with these things.What a waste of imagination i would have to say.I mean he could be writing a script on some random sci fi film and making millions instead of writing this nonsense. Comeeeeee onnn man,

Originally posted by MiTo

Originally posted by Paul_Richard

In my opinion and experience, the capricorn, Billy Meier, and ZetaTalk (Nancy Lieder) mystics are not communicating with physical aliens, they are channeling discarnate collectives who are deceiving them into believing that they are communicating with physical aliens in physical spacecraft.

keyword, deceiving, it crossed my mind many times, with all sh#$ going on around, how can you know who's crazy, who's being deceived and who wants to deceive you? to hell with it all, I get a feeling that we should seek answers within ourselves

I can offer you these guidelines�

1. Whenever anyone espouses a hierarchy or Galactic Confederation that is unproven physically, it constitutes a deception.

2. Telepathy is the universal language of Spirit. The more powerful telepathic messages or channelings are manifested from large collectives of discarnates or large Group Entities who have a self-serving agenda. By definition, these are also deceptive. If one can feel a lot of energy behind a channeling from Spirit, one can assume that the vast majority of the time the message being conveyed is inaccurate.

3. If you want to find the Absolute Truth within, you have to align yourself with the individualistic elements in the Higher Realms (stable Saints) who are not part of a Group Entity and who seek to become a "Light onto Oneself." Their messages are not as loud or as powerful, but are more honest, objective, and accurate. These espouse that a God Realized hierarchy is still in its formative stages, that no Ascended Master currently exists, that a benevolent Galactic Confederation has yet to emerge, and that there are many Space Race empires (like the Zetans) that currently compete over having the largest number of humanoid systems to dominate and harvest selfishly.

Never let someone else do your thinking for you. Think for yourself. Do your own research and come up with your own conclusion and answers. But always do it with an open mind. You'll feel a heck of alot better with a greater understanding of the world around you when you do.

This thread is nearly 4 years old, and only has 2 pages of posts submitted - which I believe says enough.

This Capricorn website is laced with cult-like behavior, strung between many of the 'channelings' and evident in the believers/followers.

I'm seriously glad that most people realize this...

-Mea

And now even older and nothing since the last post.

BS

Does anybody know of a somewhat credible person who claims to be in contact? That would be interesting.

Oh look! He died. You'd think the obit would have mentioned his greatest accomplishment, which is contacting aliens.

Harold Lavar Fox, "Hal", beloved husband, father, grandfather and friend, was born August 24, 1923, in Vineyard, Utah, to George James Fox and Jennie Holdaway. He died August 20, 2012. He had 2 siblings, Burt Wesley Fox and Marion May Fox.

Hal served as Captain in the United States Air Force, working as a meteorologist in the Phillipines during WW2, as well as in England, Germany and Nebraska. He was a highly decorated veteran. Hal married Lucy Grant in the Salt Lake Temple on May 16, 1942: they had four children, James, Nancy Jane, Kathleen and Carolyn: Nancy Jane is the only surviving child. Lucy died after 26 years of marriage; Hal then remarried the lovely Joyce Benson in the Salt Lake Temple on August 20, 1968, and they enjoyed 44 years of marriage together. Joyce raised the children and they loved her.

Hal was a scientist, inventor, gardener, and poet; he wrote a poem for the kids and grandkids for their birthdays and for the family every year for Christmas. Hal and Joyce were active in the East Millcreek 11th Ward and they have many friends in the area. Hal has 7 grandchildren and 6 great-granchildren as well as numerous nieces and nephews.

Graveside services will be held Friday August 24 at 2:00 pm in the Salt Lake City Cementary.


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Orbituary from the August 23 Salt Lake Tribune newpaper, posted as published by Sotapanno.