Insect Minds and Psychics

Has any psychics been able to put thoughts into the mind of an insect? Like, tell an insect to turn left or right or to stop moving? Or even pick up what an insect is thinking?
I've tried to do a search but can't find anything like this but maybe I'm putting in the wrong keywords.

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| just got the book "Talking to Heaven" by James Van Praagh. | got the book yesterday and in chapter 3 He goes through that. If when |'m done w/the book | can send it Your way? Lao would want it that Way. In chapters 10 and 11 He goes through different meditations. (| skipped ahead but not because of 'ego' but because One of My Weimaraners is attuned to the Spirits, and wanted to thank them but stop Her from howling.) |'d type |'d send it Your Way if it was any "good" but that would then open mySelf to 'judging' and One is shown more w/less judgement.

Oh there is also a section on contacting One's SpiritGuide.

So,sew, let me know if this interests You (the "Other Me") | should be done reading and re-reading by Sunday..

namaste

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Thanks. I may well be interested,
What's a Weimaraners?

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You mean like empery? I think it'd depend on the insect and I don't think it requires any psychic component. I've soothed wasps, bees, coaxed spiders down to me for the purpose of letting them outside. However, nothing like remotely controlling though and it has everything to do with what you're exuding. If you are fearful or nervous, they pick up on it. If you truly want to help and are calm, they chill out. I can generally zero in on them when they are trapped. Not sure how but I always seem to know when something is stuck and wants out.

They trained me well and I am their slave.

People have found this remarkable when I do it publicly. Like I said though, I think anybody can soothe these wee savage beasts. Tell them to turn left or right? Probably not. How would they know what left or right meant?

taoistguy
Has any psychics been able to put thoughts into the mind of an insect? Like, tell an insect to turn left or right or to stop moving? Or even pick up what an insect is thinking?
I've tried to do a search but can't find anything like this but maybe I'm putting in the wrong keywords.

Depends on the insect and no it is not psychic. You have to know their language, which can be extensive. Normally, it is chemical, or combination chemical and sound or vibration, most use pheromones or some combination. They are speaking to ants and bee's, there is allot of work being done, some of which is classified.

Don't be surprised if see a bee on one of your visits to the airport, turns out they are better at finding explosives than dogs are.

The Bot

We had a dragon fly trapped in the house, it was stuck in the corner. Normally would call my older son to capture it in a jar, and it may get hurt. The whole process of capture and release could take 5-15 minutes, depending on whether it works or not quickly.

So I tried standing at the open glass sliding doors, and picturing vividly in my mind me there and the open door and freedom. I kept sending the image to the dragon fly. Within a very short period of time, perhaps less than a minute or a minute, it flew to the roof directly in front of the door, but was facing backwards. I kept up the effort of sending the image. For a couple of minutes it spun around a few times, and then lined up facing me.

Then he flew directly out the door in a clean line, within an inch of my face, and I felt "thank you".

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A Weimaraner is a dog originally from Germany. They are gray in color (Gray Ghost) short fur, bobbed tail. Originally bred for large game (deer, wild pigs) Interestingly, the Weimaraner was the first canine that the Baron allowed into the house to sleep w/their humans. | have 3 of them and a hermaphrodite Affens Pinscher.

Wm. Wegman made a fortune photographing the Weimaraner in people clothes and staging them in different poses. (None playing poker hahahaha)

taoistguy
Or even pick up what an insect is thinking?

Insects don't think. They react..

Cut the head off a cockroach and the body will still go on for days (the head a few hours)....what would that headless body be "thinking"?

Peace

Could be the Insects are the ones putting thoughts into us.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Creepy older thread, kind of cool though.

I've had two experiences with spiders along these lines. Both spontaneous however, and both a long time ago.

I have a very old account of the first time archived online here: Spider Deva

The second time was very brief and was in a dream (was awake for all the events of the first one described in the link above). The second time I was going to fog my house (mass kill for fleas in Ozark summertime) and, because of the experience above, I felt obliged to try and 'psychically warn' the local spider devaa (now like 'deva of the devas' or whatever consciousness might 'represent' all spiders here at that moment) to get her people out or they were gonna die. It seemed only fair to give warning. I did a brief meditation and tried to both think it and feel it strongly. Then I thought, well... who knows. Maybe I'm just deluding myself. You never know.

Many hours later I went to bed. My little girl was sleeping with me that night. We were in a dream together when a spider deva showed up. I recognized it as a deva right away, but my daughter was really scared of spiders, and she started panicking. The deva "amplified the glory" of this sudden "web with crystalline drops of dew in it" that suddenly showed up in the dream, until the drops were like shimmering diamond stars, and we were both all agog and WOW about the "sense of GLORY" inherent in it. Anyway, then the deva tells me that while she got the message about impending doom, she doesn't know where to send her people that will be safe from whatever I'm doing. So I carefully visualized ways to get out of the house, under-house and garage, and into the backyard from almost anywhere, about 10 different paths all with the same strong sense of direction and location. She said thank you and that was that.

The devas seem to be 'holy' and powerful but the spiders themselves feel like teeeeeny tiiiiiiny little whispers. And nothing is ever literal -- by which I mean, "my mind translates what I sense it means" so it's not like a direct language thing. I think there is a great deal of anthropomorphism probably present in how it's translated.

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I really really don't like spiders. We used to take everyone we found outside, but now, since moving, with the kids in the basement and our boarder in the well room, well we put out spider traps and they had to kill the spiders or they wouldn't be able to sleep. We can't have kids bitten in the night, older or not, and as it is, my 14 year old often sleeps on a futon by my bed, and the 12 year old crawls into bed with me. Something that probably will change in a year or so, since their older brother is downstairs. And its quite nice overall.

But I recall years ago, over 20 years ago, when my oldest was a baby. My husband kills all spiders on sight due to childhood of having unusual sleep areas arranged, from attics, to garages, and spiders being frequent. It truamatized him. I naturally am horrified by them, myself. But as an empath....have felt waves of fear come of spiders and that was when we just started escorting them outside overall.

So was flushing the toilet with a spider in it, my ex husband brushing his teeth, and the toilet was going full swing, no stopping it, nearly complete, when I just thought NO!!!!!! I Prayed HELP!!!! It felt like such a waste and wrong thing to do.

And the toilet stopped, near a complete full swing unobstructed flush, it was a complete miracle. I scooped the wet little guy up even though terrified myself, and it was cold outside, so hid him in the top shelf of the coat closet so my husband wouldn't kill him.

I think there is a reason insects scare us, especially spiders. Obviously we can be entrained into or out of such things. (I had a literal, like pay-a-psychiatrist-level phobia of them when young. I desensitized myself -- mostly -- when I was 18, as part of a life-wide will-not-fear-anything-anymore effort.) But I suspect insects are in part representative of our 'chaos' energy, unorganized within the I AM of our identity, and in the case of poisonous insects, specifically what we reject and are most threatened by.

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Wow, your spider account is amazing. The ending actually made me cry a bit. I really am scared of spiders too, but I respect them. I try to help them outside instead of killing them. I talk to them, too. I dream of them often and mostly they are scary, but once it was a strange fascinating dream about a woman who had spiderwebs descend on her like a majestic cloak. Anyway, I hope someday i will not be so fearful of them. I sort of envy you.

eta: I forgot to say, I was like you trying to desensitize myself to them through the years. I am much much better than I used to be. I will never forget the time I was screaming like a lunatic trying to shove a huge (in my mind) spider out the door of my house. It was on a shoe and I was acting crazy! I still can't imagine what the neighbors thought, if anyone had witnessed it. All the screaming would have invited scrutiny, so I don't doubt someone saw it. Now I can look at them and be ok with it, but I tell them I don't mind them here as long as they stay out of my way. That's not because I think they are less than me, but rather so my fear doesn't overtake me again.

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Yesterday afternoon while on My deck there was a dragonfly that was buzzing around My head. Usually just flitting butterflies while We go on our walks through the neighborhood, | attributed the constant barrage of the butterflies were because of the dogs...

Anyway | was perfectly still for a moment and the dragonfly landed on the end of a rake (at an angle, where the end was lower than eye level) | just sat and focused on the dragonfly like | would a candle for meditation. | extended My left index finger slowly and relating that | meant no harm, it allowed Me to get closer and closer. The dragonfly then got on the tip of My finger!!! It then crawled slowly along towards My palm (The real weird thing was that ALL 4 dogs were sitting in a row and they too were transfixed; 'Sherman' crashes the cyclone fence scaring away any alligators, lizards and the like and He wasn't even pointing as He is like to do...)

So,sew, My replies yesterday were "Anything is possible" but based on My personal experience yesterday then |'ll type "Yes" and "dang skippy" |'d opine this too, is based first on "intention" and secondly on taking the 'time' to concentrate and MAKE it happen?

namaste

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Awesome. It's a pretty surreal feeling, isn't it? About 15 years ago, I once rescued a wounded butterfly with a damaged wing. It trusted me implicitly. I cared for it and loved how it would climb onto my finger, sitting and sunning itself there. The neighbor children would run out and pick flowers for it. They'd hold out the flowers so the butterfly could eat as it was perched on my hand in the sun. On the third day, it had begun to flap its wings. Then came the day that I had plans with my mother, who is a narcissitic tyrant. She was so incensed that I wanted to cancel to care for a butterfly. She yelled at me til I finally caved in. I rushed outside and picked a ton of flowers to place in the bowl with the butterfly before i left. When I came home, it was dead. I cried so hard. It had trusted me so much and I let it down. It didn't matter that, as my mother put it, "it was just a butterfly that was going to die anyways". It was a life and it had trusted me. I still feel guilty about that. Can't help but think even now that if I had kept doing what I had been doing, it would've eventually been able to fly again.

That was probably the end of the butterfly's life span, and you simply were spared it dying while you watched.

Recently I was having a talk with myself about the coolness of various creatures and reminded myself of how, thanks to the spider devas, the one creature I always found the most terrifying, disgusting and vile, actually became awesome (if still occasionally scary as heck). I thought to myself, "Except flies. Flies are never going to be cool. Never."

About three hours later I was getting gas in my van and a fly landed on the gas pump I was staring at. Never seen anything like it. The head was like a dark bronze, and then there was a stripe like dark copper, and then a stripe of light copper, and then a stripe like brass, and the whole thing looked like it was literally painted striped in different metallic colors. I'm not originally from this ozarks region so there are lots of bugs I haven't seen before.

I felt a real sense of humor at that point. Like my reality was proving me wrong. "Ok, ok" I muttered, laughing to myself. "I give up! Even flies can be totally cool apparently."

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Thanks. I'm still going to emotionally flog myself on the subject though. It's just my nature to be my worst and most intense of critics. It assures that I do better next time. I used to be arachnophobic and then I had a dream one night that was solely of a spider making a web. It was so beautiful and the spider was so graceful. Spiders and I still do not necessarily agree but we manage. I want it out of the house just as badly as it does, lol.

I think we make a mistake in presuming that we are the only ones with emotion, thought, or sentience. We gauge these ideas based on speciesism and science. Oh look, the bug's brain is different from ours--it's a lesser being. I disagree. There's something there. They can pick up on and recognize feelings. Quite certain of it.

I came across a trapped wasp in a clothing store once while with my daughter. It was on the ground, all confused and people were acting all terrified of it. My daughter and I waited until the mini-crowd cleared and I collected the wasp up to carefully take it out of the store. I'm a shadowy type of person. Attention makes me very, very nervous. Always worried about being viewed as a freak (see my profile--learning to embrace it lol). My daughter, on the other hand, thinks I'm the coolest thing on the planet and wanted everybody to know that I was carrying a wasp out of the store. Bad mix because the more nervous and panicky by the possible attention that I got, the more nervous and panicky the wasp got. I finally snapped and told my daughter to stop it when the wasp nearly tumbled my hand. Told her that I needed to be calm so it could be. She quieted down, I calmed down, and the wasp did, too. By the time I left the store, it was utterly relaxed and grooming itself.

When I came back into the store after depositing the wasp in a nice planter outside, a store manager came up to me, absolutely amazed. She hadn't ever seen anything like what I just did. She didn't even know that such a thing was possible and I explained to her that it wasn't anything unique about me. It just took understanding how they perceive us through smell and intent, answering their distress with honestly given help. For the first time in my life, I actually regretted being a shadowy person who intensely prefers going without notice. By shushing my daughter, I ruined an opportunity to blow people's minds on a much larger scale so that their view of the world shifted a little. We've come so far from nature as a species that we need that and they do, too, I think. By hiding a truth for fear of being perceived as a freak, I'm not doing the problem any favors. I'm working on that because the truth is, I'm not a freak. This isn't something unique to me. I truly believe that any can do this if they lose their fear and turn on the compassion in heaps when confronted with a distressed insect.

Insects don't think. They react..

Cut the head off a cockroach and the body will still go on for days (the head a few hours)....what would that headless body be "thinking"?

Yeah right. Like the driver is not important to a car. If you shoot him/her the car can keep on driving for a long time, especially if there is nothing to hit.

Sure Kant&Hume might be unappreciated by your average cockroach, but 'thinking' starts at a lot more basic level than you appreciate here.

Sure the concept level is a lot lower, food, now, not-now etc, but research shows eg. Spiders have quite well developed planning skills.

You also don't need a brain to think. You do a lot of 'thinking' (mostly emotional) with the huge number of neurons in your digestive system. Brains are generally very useful for integrating the input from many different sub systems and coordinate a lot of the interaction between subsystems and the environment, but computation is a LOT more basic than that.

On the OP question, you first have to ask what it means to control another living entity. There are 2 very distinct levels: influencing the being's "map" of the world and so making some choices more likely than others. This is mostly what is implied with 'control' of living entities. As indicated by various ppl, that is certainly possible.

The other level would be where you start making decisions for the body of the insect, bypassing the normal executive decision system (generally referred to as the soul when speaking about living things, but the non-scientific crowd can be SO inexact with their language sometimes...), when this is done at a human level it is called possession, not a nice thing. I wouldn't even do it to an insect, they deserve more respect.

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| left "My butterfly" on a school bus in 1969. My Mom and | went ALL over Ft. Ord to find One and | left it on the bus after Show & Tell. | felt terrible until My Mom told Me that We ALL have a "butterfly" and it may be a cat, a fish, a guinea pig but We lose it and it hurts, if it doesn't hurt than something isn't 'right' (May have been My Mom's Catholicity hahaha)

You'd also LOVE the aforementioned book | recommended to the OP. What happens to the animals, our pets, etc. is also covered


namaste

Re: thinking: the entire nervous system is basically part of the brain. Memories are even stored in many areas of the body that are not just in your head. At one time it was believed that you couldn't even function without most of your brain, until an ordinary bloke teaching math in england discovered he had little more than a brain stem, that was a big surprise. What we think we know about even human bodies is always changing and unlikely to be at the fulcrum of our possible science even now.

Because I consider the manifest physical body of any creature to be just one part of its spectrum -- the red band of a rainbow of energy you might say -- I feel there's a lot more to all creatures, including humans, than we see just by reductionist thinking about body parts. This includes a degree of awareness that may manifest in part "through" a body but is not necessarily limited to it.

Reductionist thinking considers a termite and considers it a bug with no capability of anything more than the most basic chemical function (humorously, humans operate on chemical function too, of course). But look at a giant termite hive and what you see are cities that are disturbingly like ours in analogy, to include highways and housing, to include divisions of labor and specialization, to include farming and ranching of plants and other creatures, to include rituals, to include organized, strategic warfare.

Of course, technically, reductionist science does not dispute that insects in this regard appear to be nearly as sentient as we are. It simply disputes that we are sentient, either.