UFO The Size Of An Aircraft Carrier Over Melbourne

Forgive me if this has been already posted I did a search.

Posted on the anonymousfo.com web site and on face book, I feel this is some amazing footage.
I personally don't feel it is fake, but then that is my opinion.
OK ATS people your view!

www.anonymousfo.com...

Qoute from the person that filmed this: If any 'IDIOT' says I recorded the ISS - I will block and delete your comments. I recorded the ISS approx 20 minutes earlier as proof - (Will keep raw footage with 'time' start.) Note the 'corona' as opposed to the ISS? First camera is a Samsung SDC-435 - Second camera is a P8079HP 3 stage generation 1 night vision tube with a 50mm slr lens. I watched this 'thing' visually and it just lit up the sky. This is the real deal Neil. Been doing this for about 5 years now, full time, never ever seen anything like this. If 'anyone' can explain what is larger, slower than the ISS in orbit, please let me know? Sorry about the swearing, but it is what it is. - Youtube description

reply to post by nighthawk1954


It is interesting, but to me his first line in his quote says alot about the open mindedness of the individual.

I shall wait for other sky-gazers to pop in their comments.

This has been posted already if you look around the UFO forum. If I remember correctly, it was a satellite fuel dump. No UFO here, and certainly not "aircraft carrier" size.

reply to post by nighthawk1954


I think it could be a TR B3 or an Aurora craft that is illuminated. We have been seeing more and more of those being tested or flown. Recently there were 3 of them together in a photo, at least what I guessed was them. If it is a triangle shape that is probably what it is. Trouble is though these craft are generally small so if this really was the size of an aircraft carrier...maybe it wasn't a TRB3 or an Aurora. Interesting video anyway. S&F

reply to post by _BoneZ_


Thank you for enlightening me.

I approach all this as the Skeptical Bunny, to be gentle on it....but I'll say this. After digging into his website a little to see if he was the typical crank with "evidence" to laugh at more than look at? I've read about some of the cases he's focusing on in books ..and they weren't comedy type.

Thanks for the link. I've added his site to my bookmarks under Special News, if that gives any sense of my opinion.

Nice catch and share.

Well, lets consider the facts....

1. Filmed at 5.47am, just before Sunrise.

2. Highly illuminated when spotted, as it would if in the Suns Rays.

3. Fades, gets smaller and slower as it moves more South direction.....so going out of the Suns Rays, and because of altitude, appears to slow because of the curvature of the Earth etc.

4. Appears not to be self illuminating.

Conclusion...A high altitude Human Satellite (could be space junk), reflected in the Morning Sun's light.

UFO..yes.....Alien probably not.

reply to post by _BoneZ_


Satellite fuel dump?

Why?

Why would a satellite have to dump fuel?

Confused.

CaptainBeno
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Satellite fuel dump?

Why?

Why would a satellite have to dump fuel?

Confused.

UFO Over Melbourne Australia
www.abovetopsecret.com...
JimOberg posted:

At 19:16 GMT on September 1, China launched a Long March 4C booster from its main space? center at Jiuquan, carrying a triple-satellite grouping called "Yaogan Weixing 17". It entered a 63 deg inclined orbit, 1100 km high, and half an hour later passed over SE Australia shortly before dawn along a NNW to SSE azimuth. Space boosters typically vent excess fuel after reaching orbit in order to forestall later explosions that could generate clouds of space shrapnel.

It does seem to maintain the triangular shape in many angles and both cameras. It is pretty weird. Does seem to be solid.

The ISS is usually about the same brightness as the planet Venus. Now Venus is second only in brightness in the night sky, to the Moon and the object in the film is quite a bit brighter than the ISS. That puts in in the -6 to -8 magnitude area and is indeed, damnably unusual. That makes it between 15 and 40 times brighter than the ISS as star magnitudes are on a logarithmic scale. If the ISS is -3 in magnitude then a -4 object is 2.51 times brighter, a -5 magnitude object is 2.51 x 2.51 times brighter than a -3 magnitude object

It could well be a "fuel dump" however, there's one problem I have with that explanation and that's this. In the second video through the night lens, there does seem to be two almost "Taillight" like lights that are distinctly separate as it moves away from the camera. Now maybe that's a trick of the lens and line of sight conspiring to produce that effect, as yet, I'm still open minded on that particular explanation.

reply to post by Pauligirl


Gotya, however (and I'm sorry, I was meant to outline this better in an earlier post).... Aren't there long comet type trails associated with fuel vents on satellites? This particular "fuel vent" seems to have none?

More of a bright light indicating a "fuel burn" ?

Sorry, a bit thick when it comes to these things. Not arguing, more questioning.

Have seen past "fuel vents" and they appear to be like a comet? This does not look like that.

Amazing video... Doesn't appear to be a rocket

reply to post by tracehd1

Actually, it does.
www.metacafe.com...

Yup the official explanation is a fuel dump. The owner of the video refuses to accept the explanation though and deleted all sensible opinions on his youtube vids...
There has just been quite a spectacular fuel dump witnessed in southern Africa in the last day or so.

reply to post by CaptainBeno



Because of the corona it has, I feel that this is some man made conventional craft that uses chemical propulsion.. Besides the China launch, SpaceX launched something recently also that dumped some fuel and caused a mass ufo sighting, but it was just a spherical cloud of fuel mist that the sun was shining on..

Although I'm usually one of the first people that would claim ET, I just see this as a man caused incident..

Still worth posting and checking out though.. (this sighting appears to show the vehicle is causing a sonic bubble , the corona around it, meaning it is still in the earth's atmosphere, and is creating friction with the air.

Alien space craft don't have coronas usually because their propulsion method causes the vehicle to not be in contact with anything outside the hull.. No friction or inertia because of near zero mass.

reply to post by Phage


You need a visit to the opticians old bean. They are nothing like as bright as the object in this film and nothing like the size. There again, you did insist a hang glider was a flock of geese .

It obviously has been explained already...but I think it's just amazing how the video uploader seems to know about the size of the object and also seems to know "it is in orbit".

Obviously, simply by pointing a camera upwards and filming a light you don't know about the size, speed and distance of the object. He in addition uses nightvision (WHY?) which is known to show anything out-of-proportion, lit up and entirely unsuitable to assess what the object may be. He could have filmed a plane, blimp, satellite or a rocket stage, a bird even with some luck (they too "light up" if you use nightvision) and then make some un-substantiated claim about the size "as big as an aircraft carrier" and how the object "is in orbit" just by guessing?

FireMoon
They are nothing like as bright as the object in this film and nothing like the size.

How do you know the size? What sort of instruments were used to measure it? How do you know the altitude of the object and can conclude to its size....even better...from a YT video.

You know that anything is extremely bright in Nightvision, right?

reply to post by NoRulesAllowed


Its called science, . It's called an education based on learning how to interpret over a period of time given a decent number videos of similar objects. Night vision cannot make an object that is darker than another object brighter than that object, the relative brightness remains the same irrespective of what is being viewed. We have a known in the ISS filmed through the same lens, roughly as bright as Venus about -3 in magnitude, the other object is considerably brighter and it has nothing to do with the lens.