Valve gamepad. An alternative to analog sticks?

Valve announced a steam gamepad. Instead of two analog sticks it has two touchpads. I have seen rollerball designs before but had my doubts. This looks good. However, I am not sure about the button locations. In the middle instead of off to the side.

Love to try one.

www.ign.com...

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It certainly looks interesting. I remember when analog sticks came out; I hated them with a passion, but eventually, I got used to them.

This looks like it might be an easier adaptation with this controller.

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Not sure how I feel about that one.

It looks like it'll feel similar to the "joystick" on tablet and phone games. They lack the positional sensation that an analog joystick has. This may be a perfectly functional and very nice to use, but just from seeing the images I'm not convinced it'll be something I'd like to use.

do you remeber how awesome this pad was?
of coarse not it was rubbish.

that valve pad looks cool though.

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It looks like a boombox mated with a controller. I'll stick with my keyboard and mouse. I'm rather proud that the letters "WADS" are worn a bit.

kmb08753
Valve announced a steam gamepad. Instead of two analog sticks it has two touchpads. I have seen rollerball designs before but had my doubts. This looks good. However, I am not sure about the button locations. In the middle instead of off to the side.

Love to try one.

www.ign.com...

I like joysticks myself because they can be as sensitive or insensitive as you want. Touch pad type controls leave out the manual connection that buttons and joysticks offer. Have you ever tried playing a fast paced action game without raised action buttons? To me they are irritating.

Looks nice, But! It's gonna be real hard to beat the mouse!
I've won many bets in the past when I've argued that keyboard and mouse is better than a controller.
This new device only "approaches" mouse resolution, and it has to do all that within the area of the pad, a mouse has the whole table top to play on

Mapkar
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Not sure how I feel about that one.

It looks like it'll feel similar to the "joystick" on tablet and phone games. They lack the positional sensation that an analog joystick has. This may be a perfectly functional and very nice to use, but just from seeing the images I'm not convinced it'll be something I'd like to use.

Tactile response and sensitivity would be key.

Rikku

do you remeber how awesome this pad was?
of coarse not it was rubbish.

that valve pad looks cool though.

Hopefully, these pads will be much more sensitive.

OrphanApology

kmb08753
Valve announced a steam gamepad. Instead of two analog sticks it has two touchpads. I have seen rollerball designs before but had my doubts. This looks good. However, I am not sure about the button locations. In the middle instead of off to the side.

Love to try one.

www.ign.com...

I like joysticks myself because they can be as sensitive or insensitive as you want. Touch pad type controls leave out the manual connection that buttons and joysticks offer. Have you ever tried playing a fast paced action game without raised action buttons? To me they are irritating.

I would like to try it. It's true that sticks offer good response and immersion. I remember picking up Skate for the first time after being a Tony Hawk player. The stick control felt more natural than button combos. Made the series.

VoidHawk
Looks nice, But! It's gonna be real hard to beat the mouse!
I've won many bets in the past when I've argued that keyboard and mouse is better than a controller.
This new device only "approaches" mouse resolution, and it has to do all that within the area of the pad, a mouse has the whole table top to play on

Indeeeedly doodly!

I can see perhaps them making games, like with consoles, that work with this contraption.

But the mouse is always going to be the precision controller of a real gamer. Gimmicks may appeal to cyborgs. but not us humans.

and keys.. KEYS I tell you. KEYS that react. None of this glass representation funk. Save that for electronic paper when they introduce it. Hell, they better have that nano-carbon-funky gunk that gives a touchscreen device texture by time they really let it all loose.

my fingers are made to feel things. Or I'd use spaghetti.

winofiend

VoidHawk
Looks nice, But! It's gonna be real hard to beat the mouse!
I've won many bets in the past when I've argued that keyboard and mouse is better than a controller.
This new device only "approaches" mouse resolution, and it has to do all that within the area of the pad, a mouse has the whole table top to play on

Indeeeedly doodly!

I can see perhaps them making games, like with consoles, that work with this contraption.

But the mouse is always going to be the precision controller of a real gamer. Gimmicks may appeal to cyborgs. but not us humans.

and keys.. KEYS I tell you. KEYS that react. None of this glass representation funk. Save that for electronic paper when they introduce it. Hell, they better have that nano-carbon-funky gunk that gives a touchscreen device texture by time they really let it all loose.

my fingers are made to feel things. Or I'd use spaghetti.

For someone so dry and cynical as you tend to be, it surprised me when I read "touchscreen device texture".
What a brilliant idea!
That would get the porn sites buzzing again LOL

VoidHawk

winofiend

VoidHawk
Looks nice, But! It's gonna be real hard to beat the mouse!
I've won many bets in the past when I've argued that keyboard and mouse is better than a controller.
This new device only "approaches" mouse resolution, and it has to do all that within the area of the pad, a mouse has the whole table top to play on

Indeeeedly doodly!

I can see perhaps them making games, like with consoles, that work with this contraption.

But the mouse is always going to be the precision controller of a real gamer. Gimmicks may appeal to cyborgs. but not us humans.

and keys.. KEYS I tell you. KEYS that react. None of this glass representation funk. Save that for electronic paper when they introduce it. Hell, they better have that nano-carbon-funky gunk that gives a touchscreen device texture by time they really let it all loose.

my fingers are made to feel things. Or I'd use spaghetti.

For someone so dry and cynical as you tend to be, it surprised me when I read "touchscreen device texture".
What a brilliant idea!
That would get the porn sites buzzing again LOL

Touchscreen texture. Not such a far fetched idea. Senseg has been developing exactly that. They use a small electric pulse that attracts your finger. Varying the charge changes the "feel".

It was a rumor to be included with the iPad 3, which obviously didn't happen. I have read it described as being able to feel stone or wood surfaces or keys on a keyboard.

Here is a link to Senseg's site. They have a bunch of info about it there.

senseg.com...

kmb08753

VoidHawk

winofiend

VoidHawk
Looks nice, But! It's gonna be real hard to beat the mouse!
I've won many bets in the past when I've argued that keyboard and mouse is better than a controller.
This new device only "approaches" mouse resolution, and it has to do all that within the area of the pad, a mouse has the whole table top to play on

Indeeeedly doodly!

I can see perhaps them making games, like with consoles, that work with this contraption.

But the mouse is always going to be the precision controller of a real gamer. Gimmicks may appeal to cyborgs. but not us humans.

and keys.. KEYS I tell you. KEYS that react. None of this glass representation funk. Save that for electronic paper when they introduce it. Hell, they better have that nano-carbon-funky gunk that gives a touchscreen device texture by time they really let it all loose.

my fingers are made to feel things. Or I'd use spaghetti.

For someone so dry and cynical as you tend to be, it surprised me when I read "touchscreen device texture".
What a brilliant idea!
That would get the porn sites buzzing again LOL

Touchscreen texture. Not such a far fetched idea. Senseg has been developing exactly that. They use a small electric pulse that attracts your finger. Varying the charge changes the "feel".

It was a rumor to be included with the iPad 3, which obviously didn't happen. I have read it described as being able to feel stone or wood surfaces or keys on a keyboard.

Here is a link to Senseg's site. They have a bunch of info about it there.

senseg.com...

Thanks for the link. Will check it out.

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Damn it, now I have to be extra cynical in the next elvis thread as a penance.

Oo



-- they have already come up with flexible screens. Incorporate it with this, and we're well on our way to interesting times! And this is from 2010, I'd not heard of it till just looking now.



I swear I had read something to do with graphene that involved flexible touch screens and texture. Google is telling me all about other things and graphene after about 4 results so it's being a nerd..

Ahh never mind, I can only afford $80 androids with 2 inch displays anyway.. not much to touch on them..