Sleeping problems? Look no further the future is NOW!

MysterX

But that 'wife pleasing side effect' you mention, i could live with that!

Viagra ain't in it with Trazodone. I have always been surprised it wasn't marketed as an "aid".

Not only does it work, it won't bloody take 'no' for an answer. You might as well get ready to spend an hour or two disposing of the side effects.

I have to say, it's a lot more pleasant thing to wake up to than a hangover. Still, sometimes it's inconvenient. I do find that Dream Sleep works better than just valerian - the guys that make it brew it up out of fresh herbs and it's got some other things in like hops (granted - related to other herbal aids) and skullcap.

Bedlam

MystikMushroom

Also, electronics never seem to work quite right in dreams. Light switches don't work properly, radios don't seem to match the stations you're used to.

Speak for yourself, John.

I solve all sorts of engineering problems in dreams.

Yes that works and you get fresh ideas when you wake up in the
morning

hknudzkknexnt
Tired of not being able to sleep? Not any more, the Ziz is a revolutionary sleep aid calming to "optimize" sleep patterns.

Insomnia could be a thing of the past

Seems to me that if everybody would lay off the soda, coffee, and energy drinks, insomnia rates would go down a lot.

Bedlam

MystikMushroom

Also, electronics never seem to work quite right in dreams. Light switches don't work properly, radios don't seem to match the stations you're used to.

Speak for yourself, John.

I solve all sorts of engineering problems in dreams.

I solve all sorts of my problems in my dreams, and I want to write them down before I forget them. Somehow I never get around to it. Maybe the Klingons or the Wehrmacht are around the corner or something, and then I wake up and forget my brilliant solution.

Occasionally I did remember my idea for solving my day job problem. I woke up and thought about it in some more daylight, and I realize it it is obvious nonsense because of X Y and Z.

One time Spock gave me a tricorder and I thought I really needed to get it to a reverse-engineering lab ASAP and Tom O'Bedlam & I would be rich. I woke up and I was pissed off I couldn't find it.

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Yeah, I don't think this does anything more than register sleep patterns. Ergo, it is an inane exaggeration to say insomnia is a thing of the past.

Edit: I meant to respond to someone but accidentally deleted the reply to:. So My post might seem a little off lol.


These things have been around for decades, they are nothing new. They don't cure insomnia and they certainly don't help. They are on the same level of new age medicine and a waste of money. How do I know? About 10 years ago I tried something like this and it did nothing but irritate me and even made me more energetic.

The problem with insomnia isn't caused by caffeine, in fact you can not have caffeine your whole life and still have it. What about stress and depression? You can get something like insomnia by stress and depression but it's still not insomnia. A lot of people tend to place insomnia in the same category of not being able to sleep from time to time which is not the case.

Imagine if you are tired your whole day but you get to bed and you still can't sleep. There's no way you can sleep and you're not energetic either. There's no reason why you can't sleep but you are unable to do so. This is something that happens every day of your life but at times you can sleep but most of the time you only get maybe 3hrs of sleep because you have to get up. This is a process that continues for a very long time, sometimes if not most of the time, a lifetime.

Meditation seems to help a lot but it takes a lot of meditation practice so if you do suffer from insomnia, meditation isn't going to work immediately but eventually you gain more control over your mind and body through it. Alternatively you can always take melatonin but clearly if you're still having troubles these days you are immune to its effects. Sure, works great for one night but then poof -- doesn't work anymore.

I hate to be the buster of bubbles but this POS doesn't work and if it does for some (as it is suggested) then perhaps it's just a placebo. But when I tried it, I thought for sure it would help but it didn't. Two strange things helped me sleep better. 1: Meditation music or nature sounds. Be sure to listen to the whole song because for some stupid reason they put fog horns and loud birds in some of them. It'll wake you right up. 2: Cuddling. For some reason cuddling helps me sleep really easily. Whether I'm the one cuddling or being cuddle it doesn't matter, 90% of the time I can sleep when cuddling. Maybe it's because I get into a trance of euphoria since I'm madly in love but that's the case with me.

I hope this tidbit of information has been helpful to some.

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The problem with insomnia isn't caused by caffeine, in fact you can not have caffeine your whole life and still have it. What about stress and depression? You can get something like insomnia by stress and depression but it's still not insomnia. A lot of people tend to place insomnia in the same category of not being able to sleep from time to time which is not the case.

Insomnia is a condition with a variety of causes. But there is one consistent factor which worsens it: a weary and anxious mind.

With caffeine, depression, or anxiety, the body isn't feeling quite right. With intense fatigue, the mind feels a strange sense of dissociation from the body. They are aware that their body feels tired, yet, somehow, they cannot feel this tiredness in their mind; as if there were a split between their conscious mind and the tiredness of their physical body.

I've experienced this myself - most people have. If you haven't experienced it before, or aren't prone to over-thinking and obsessing over the strangeness of the state - and the fear it can educe - then you will eventually lose consciousness and fall asleep. But, once you inject anxiety and worry into the picture, the mind can become "locked" into this state; sleep doesn't happen because the conscious mind is worrying about it's inability to sleep. This produces a horrific feedback loop: the body's fatigue amplifies the minds feeling of dissociation; the minds worrying stresses the body which keeps the mind further removed from the body.

I once had a HORRIFIC bout of insomnia that left me in a very tattered condition. 3 straight weeks of not one wink of sleep. I remember till this day the intensity of my bodies fatigue, the titillation of my nerves, and the constant sense of fear, worry and dejection. It was simply hell.

If it weren't for the tranquilizing effects of seroquel I'm not sure whether I would have gotten through it. Once my body got a few hours of sleep, it felt restored; the increased relaxation in the body led to the increased relaxation of the mind. Good and more good followed.

The reason why this gimmick doesn't work is because sleep is more than just the brain: it's the body as well. Controlling brain waves through noises or patterns of electrical activity is only a tacit intervention i.e. it only works partially. What it can't really combat is the self-generated anxiety produced by conscious worrying about whether or not you're going to sleep.

Get the body right, first. Once the body is good, practice mindfulness. Over time, you'll develop techniques that help you fall asleep without difficulty.

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Man, I'm telling you, you just need to do some physical chemistry for me. We'd make a great team at LANL. I still know a few guys over there from my salad days.

cavtrooper7
900Ml of Gabapentin seems to work well for me. [/quote[

I add two Benadryl with my gabapentin