Seems like your Smart Phone is slowly becoming the “Mark of the Beast”

Now let me first note that I was brought up as a Christian and followed the word with wonder and awe, but by age 12 started to see and notice so many discrepancies and hypocrisies that with-in a year, I decided to never again follow an organized religion…. (I’m not bragging, but my IQ was 140+ …. dependent on the test…. and I feel this was definitely a factor in my choice) I’d get more into it this, but that’s another topic.

PLEASE REMEMBER THIS WHILE READING…. I’m just throwing this out there for fun… I could care less about the rapture, the mark, satan, god, etc…. that $#!+ bores me, but I know some of you will lap this up like ….never mind… I’ll just stop while I’m ahead… but that's why I didn't add links or special format and colors to help you out.

So to move on…. I’ll throw out this famous anecdote (not verbatim)

How to boil a frog:
If you throw a frog into a pot of boiling water it will immediately try to jump out of the water, but if you put the frog in a pot of water and slowly bring to a boil, the frog will not notice and meet its demise peacefully and willingly…

This is an anecdote because….
A. Who in their right mind would leave the poopy guts in something they want to eat
and/or
B. You got to be a sick mutha mucker to want to boil a frog for fun)

……any way…. to the point

Ever since I can remember I’ve had this innate “ability/psychosis/problem?” to take large amounts of separate pieces of information and conglomerate the material into a large picture…. Kind of like a puzzle is put together…. This is just one of the many things stored in my melon, that if expressed to normal people, would probably give me the response of “you’re mucking crazy”

And so that I don’t fill a hundred pages with “stuff” (I am a total tangent whore…. reference above), I am going to try to only reference only Revelations 13 dealing with “the mark” and not so much “the beast”, although I will put my ongoing note stuff afterward (I have ongoing notepad notes all over the place that are in progress… some I haven’t touched in years)

Oh and just so we are on the same page…. I believe Cellphone technology will continue to evolve, thus driving down the cost to obtain one…. I also believe that the internet will become accessible by means of the same evolving…. You should see (via coverage diagrams) how much Radio Frequency and Microwave Radiation they bombard us with day and night (like fire from the sky).



Revelation Chapter 13 …. Or what I now refer to as “Revelations of 2013”


Verse 18: I broke down into 3 parts (and it reads backwards)

“and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six”

Waw is the sixth letter of the Northwest Semitic family of scripts …. In Arabic and thus in most Semitic languages it represents the sound [w] –from wiki

So the number 6 is the letter equivalent of W. “666” = WWW

“Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man”

An Internet Protocol address (IP address) is a numerical label assigned to each device participating in a computer network that uses the Internet Protocol for communication. –from wiki

So every time you communicate with the internet you are represented by a number through your electronic device. “Your” specific IP address = The “number of man” that “The Beast” understands as “You”

“Here is wisdom. “

There is a lot of “Wisdom” to be had from the internet. Type in ANYTHING and you will find something on it….

Oh damn… tangent time …. This pretty much makes the internet like the forbidden tree of knowledge that eventually casted “man” out “Eden” (Eden was a perfect place … exactly like heaven? So by using the internet are we accepting it…demanding it)



Verse 17: I did not break into parts, but did changed the “or’s to and’s”

“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark and the name of the beast and the number of his name”

If you haven’t notice, not only is buying and selling of products slowly moving to the internet… (how many stores do you know of that have shut down locations and moved to the internet). Not to mention you can easily buy and sell anything with your smart phone.

If you have no idea what I’m talking about that’s OK, you may be on the older side and could even possibly die before the new system is fully executed.



Verse 16: I did not break into parts, but did change causeth to gave

"And he gave all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads"

Foreheads and hands to me refers to the “new” tech that is coming out for your phone with facial recognition (down to pausing a streaming movie if you look away) and finger print access … oh and “Your” marks will be stored in the phone not the other way around

To date there are many sponsored programs to help everyone get a computer and once the tech has evolved enough it will be “hand held computers” that are given away, also the ability to access the internet is getting subsidized and will probably soon become free to those that “need” it.

Cont...

OK So that’s my jest regarding “the mark” …. I could put down way more, but I have a mutha mucking job and this sheet take forever to compile …. Here’s some tid bits I was putting together regarding “the beast” and such … they are still in “my note taking format” with no order… so no need to bust my balls


Verse1

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Upon 7 heads is the name of blasphemy… 1Y 2A 3H 4U 5W 6A 7H ... Need more info

The internet rose from a sea of information

en.wikipedia.org...
Work on a layered model of network architecture was started and the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) began to develop its OSI framework architecture. OSI had two major components: an abstract model of networking, called the Basic Reference Model or seven-layer model, and a set of specific protocols.
The concept of a seven-layer model was provided by the work of Charles Bachman, Honeywell Information Services. Various aspects of OSI design evolved from experiences with the ARPANET, the fledgling Internet, NPLNET, EIN, CYCLADES network and the work in IFIP WG6.1. The new design was documented in ISO 7498 and its various addenda.

So this seven layer protocol was, in essence, the beginning of the internet

There is no reference the horns are on the heads…. Ten horns with ten crowns…. Reference the Italian “moon goddess horn” which then became interchangeable with the Virgin Mary…. Find ten Italians dealing with the internet? Need more info
www.google.com...:en-USfficial&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ruYwUvHv H8XY2QWVooGoBg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1228&bih=770&dpr=1

Verse 2
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Leopard, bear, lion dragon can all be referenced to Macintosh (and it’s icon is an apple with a bite taken from it…. Fruit from the tree of knowledge…. Another forbidden fruit reference)

Verse 3
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

IBM was definitely a head of the computer world…. But seemed to be “dead on the vine”… but I know someone with their stocks and they are doing great…. They moved to consulting (like back in the day with hitler)

Verse 4

And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

Have you met an Apple junkie… nuff said



Ha so that’s it… yeah I could of spent more time and made this whole gnarly thing with links and counter links and blahblahblahblahblahblahblah (that is what most people will be reading from this whole thing anyway)

Have a nice day

XOXOXOX

Interesting thread. I never thought of a cell phone like this. But the other day at the store they scanned a coupon from it. That was a new thing for me. I've also been told by my bank I can just send a picture to do a deposit. Wasn't interested in that one. But I did want to use that coupon. I can see if everything got tied into them it could match. When no one takes cash I'll truly be worried.

Crazy...but it makes sense in a lot of ways. I won't put any stock in this, but I will keep it in mind.

Excellent thread. I had never thought of the great ole www as the beast. Most of what you suggest makes some kind of sense. Look forward to reading more "tangents" from you.

The entirety of scripture is set up vague enough for people to draw any conclusion out of it.

Concepts like Hell, an Antichrist and a Mark of the beast are all intentional and serve one purpose, the Church never ceding power to the authority of man. You can after all overturn any power any government any law with the promise of Hell being the reprisal never provable always based on faith or imagination as I like to call it.

I see a system for control of the masses in religion nothing more.

penninja
The entirety of scripture is set up vague enough for people to draw any conclusion out of it.

Concepts like Hell, an Antichrist and a Mark of the beast are all intentional and serve one purpose, the Church never ceding power to the authority of man. You can after all overturn any power any government any law with the promise of Hell being the reprisal never provable always based on faith or imagination as I like to call it.

I see a system for control of the masses in religion nothing more.

A lot do say the Bible is a control tool even though it tells us in many places we must not take part in the corruption of the world and its kings. We must not bow down to other men or make oaths. So I never understood why people say this.

Interesting thread although I doubt any Christian that knows a little about the scriptures would agree with it at all. When reading Revelations in context your idea will fall flat on its face. I know you do not believe so it is mainly tongue in cheek.

Interesting thread, especially considering my own personal background in regards to symbolism and what it may or may not mean. You say that in whatever alphabet you mentioned w=6 so w=666 correct? Well in the english alphabet w is the 23rd letter and most "conspiracy theorist" have at some point in time seen something about how 23 is an occult number, something to do with 2 divided by 3 equals something like 0.66666666667 which somehow means something, there may be more to it that I don't remember.

Now let me say upfront that what Im about to share doesnt mean anything or at least I hope not, I certainly don't feel evil. My life, especially that of my fathers side of the family has always been a bit of a mystery to me. As I grew older and wiser I noticed things that were or are strange. Ill start with this tidbit, my initials are WWW and to make it better I am the third so WWW III. Furthermore I share my birthday with none other than MTV which is 08/01/1981 or 8/1/81 which if you want to play with numbers could be say 8+1=9, 8+1=9 = 99 which is when I turned...wait for it...18 lol, I know it doesn't mean anything.

My father was murdered when I was 4 working as an informant for the d.e.a. so I'm told, not that I have any concrete reason to believe otherwise. So naturally my grandfather became my hero as I grew up but unfortunately I lost him at about 12 and found out much later in life that he was a well respected and liked member of the community and a freemason. Upon his death a road was named after him albeit a small road not a major highway or anything but more interestingly my grandmother recieved condolence letters from a senator and other government bigwig types. Now on the freemason note I found it interesting that there is in fact a gentleman that shares my family's last name that was somewhat of a heavy in early american masonry although from what I gather he didn't have any children, at least not documented. I don't rember everything all that clearly but I do recall a piece of a conversation that some of the elder males were having on the day of my grandfathers funeral. They were pondering the cause of his single car accident and how strange the whole ordeal was. He was not a drinker so that wasn't really an option, responsible driver and healthy as someone in their early 50's could be at least at a glance anyway. My grandmother did not allow an autopsy so heart attack or stroke couldn't be ruled out. The two strangest things I remember though were the mention of someone who apparently had a grievance with him whose name I do not recall possibly running him off the road and the fact that his car flipped several times eventually resting upside down leaving a circular pattern of golf balls around the car as it spun on it's top. He was an avid golfer with a trunk full of golf balls.

My grandfather was a really interesting and intelligent man, the kind that truly appeal to freemasonry. Upon retiring he became a professor at a technical insitute (machinist by trade), he had a FFL firearms dealer license and could fix just about anything. Something that didnt really resonate with me until I grew older and looked back is that him and his good ol boy buddies were somewhat preppers without the crazy spin that you always see on the show. He grew his own crops which my grandmother canned and stored. More interestingly he was the leader of a development project out in the boondocks or deep country that looking back on it was partially naturally fortified by thick swamp and brush. They constructed large canals on the sides that werent naturally fortified leaving one narrow road in that could very tightly fit two vehicles at a time down the road. This is were my step-great grandfather lives to this day ( they were very close).

I should also mention that I did have an uncle on that side of the family who spent most of his life in prison and passed within the last couple of years, so I never really got to know him to well. My greatgrandmother passed when I was 23 and I just lost my grandmother at the age of 32, there go those inverted numbers again lol. I am now the last member of that side of the family with my particlar surname and about to inherit an undisclosed sum of money at this time (that stuff takes time to hash out). I have also had and only once in my life an outer body experience as a child. I don't really like to talk about that as it is hard to explain to people without being looked at like your crazy. I have looked into sleep paralysis and that certainly was not what I experienced. I have flipped a car (no seatbelt) into a very large christmas type tree and by flipped I mean the car went airborne and the tree caught it essentially saving my life as the tree slowed the cars descent to the ground and without a scratch. I was exempt from certain shots that all the other recruits recieved in boot camp for reasons unbeknownst to me. My favorite color schemes in my choice of clothing are black and white, can you say duality lol. I have seen the face of the devil in the clouds that morphed into a hand coming at me but I was on mushrooms for that one so can't really claim that as all that strange, I also thought my playstation was watching me and the cia was after me that night (and that was long before I was really into "conspiracies" lol).

There are other little things that Im not going to share right now and I apologize for rambling, Im a bit tipsy and really bored. I guess my point is that you can spend your whole life looking for answers and finding them anywhere if you want to believe enough. That being said, Im not saying that there isn't anything to it and I certainly believe there is more to this world than us common folk arent privy to. I certainly believe that there are groups or a group of ultra powerful and wealthy people that don't have our best interest at heart whether it be simply greed or something more sinister. I lean towards the latter though, call it intuition or perhaps something on somekind of universal spiritual connection through all the small things that make me me. Maybe I'm spirtual connected because the symbolism and planetary alignments do in actuality mean something. I don't know I'm drunk and thats my rant.

According to the earliest known New Testament fragment, the "Number of the Beast" was actually 616, not 666; it was a reference to the Emperor Nero.

"666" has been allowed to remain the number of the beast, because it works much better in the Iron Maiden song.

The idea of www being the mark of the beast is interesting, perhaps a piece to the whole. Consider that a square has four sides, four corners, and encloses and separates a space from another perhaps infinite space. Symbols in the bible can consist of several parts, can relate to several worldly objects or circomstances from the past or future, and most likely have an eclipsing spiritual meaning.
The real problem is accepting the mark, our relationship to the mark, or object. Am I accepting the mark when I carry a smartphone in my pocket, or when I Skype somebody in another country, or is it after I make a purchase on amazon with PayPal?
Inspired to think about it because of your post, I think that the process begins when we give up our spiritual freedom in favor of technology. I would agree that the use and reliance of internet, smartphones, Skype, and other innovative technologies is a beginning of something.

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Indeed you wrote some interesting thoughts...Like many other people I belief that we live in an exciting time where in an instant a peaceful day can turn into a nightmare. Therefore it would be wise to prep the most important..like freshwater.

Anyways, what I would like to tell you is that the consumer communication technology is developing into the direction you talk about.

With unbelief I heared awhile back that cellphones can remotely be switched on and that governments can track you. The latest thing I heared was that cellphones are introduced of which the battery cannot be removed....how about that one..?

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I love "tipsy" posting!!

I also love wishing I never posted things I posted.....

The Mark of the Beast is a conscious decision to turn from God that will prevent one from being saved. It's extremely serious. People will not be tricked into accidentally receiving the mark. It's not a tattoo or a cell phone or surfing the web. It's not attending church on a Sunday instead of a Saturday. It's not the bar codes on groceries or your social security number. It has to be something that would cause God to not allow you into Heaven. Humans are made in God's image. My belief is the Mark of the Beast will change a man to no longer be in God's image. It could be genetic modification to alter the DNA into something else... this could be presented to those as way to never grow old or die. It could be a take the human mind/consciousness out of the body and load it into a computer or android. Whatever it is it will be happening soon as end time prophecies continue to be checked off the list.

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Lol, drunken anything is usually filled with regret. It is what makes life interesting though.

All interesting! definitely food for thought and plausible. I enjoyed reading your post
I look forward to more from you ...

~Sovereign

jjkenobi
The Mark of the Beast is a conscious decision to turn from God that will prevent one from being saved. It's extremely serious. People will not be tricked into accidentally receiving the mark. It's not a tattoo or a cell phone or surfing the web. It's not attending church on a Sunday instead of a Saturday. It's not the bar codes on groceries or your social security number. It has to be something that would cause God to not allow you into Heaven. Humans are made in God's image. My belief is the Mark of the Beast will change a man to no longer be in God's image. It could be genetic modification to alter the DNA into something else... this could be presented to those as way to never grow old or die. It could be a take the human mind/consciousness out of the body and load it into a computer or android. Whatever it is it will be happening soon as end time prophecies continue to be checked off the list.

I came across this article this morning and was reminded of my post here.

We'll be uploading our entire MINDS to computers by 2045 and our bodies will be replaced by machines within 90 years, Google expert claims"

In just over 30 years, humans will be able to upload their entire minds to computers and become digitially immortal"

We'll be uploading our entire MINDS to computers by 2045...


This reminds me of the Bible verse Revelation 9:6 "During those days people will seek death but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them."

It could also mean zombies though.

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Definitely an interesting concept. However, I just can't see the elite allowing the public to live immortally without some kind of a catch -- It would make sense though with the verse that was mentioned "people would seek death but it would elude them" -- perhaps once we are in these machines we would be under 100% control. . . Hmm +1

~Sovereign