The Coming Terrorist Attack, Syria, Iran, and WWIII

OneManArmy

jedi_hamster
reply to post by GogoVicMorrow

 

when the 'rebels' will strike - they won't strike in Syria. it'll be a false flag on US soil, to gather domestic support for the attack. and they WILL need it.

you may think they don't give a damn right now, but they know very well what the consequences will be. they know what the involvement of Iran, Israel, Russia and China means. world war. what do you think would happen in DC when they would start that against the will of US citizens? they would be kicked out from their offices overnight.

of course, Americans won't be aware of the consequences this attack will bring, but despite the fact i'm not one of them and that i've never been in USA, i believe there is a borderline that, when crossed by the government, will end up in a revolution. it doesn't really matter though, the government will rather declare martial law than loose control.

I would hope that the "general public" has become enlightened enough to be able to see through a false flag on home soil. In which case it would be extremely risky for TPTB to get away with.

With that said, now would be a perfect time to deliver a fatal blow, because who would really know who the real perpetrators are, if a dirty bomb went off on US soil, regardless of who did it, I think the US government would get the blame, and to be quite frank, they only have themselves to blame for it.

That is some pretty sick stuff right there.
You hope a dirty bomb goes off and according to you this is the perfect time for it.
Further you hope whoever does it will get away with it because you think Americans are too confused to mount a response.

Sounds like a typical anti-American cheerleader for terrorists to me.

Gotta call it as I see it, and it is plain as day.

This almost amounts to what US homeland security calls "chatter" that they issue terror warnings for.

TinfoilTP


That is some pretty sick stuff right there.
You hope a dirty bomb goes off and according to you this is the perfect time for it.
Further you hope whoever does it will get away with it because you think Americans are too confused to mount a response.

Sounds like a typical anti-American cheerleader for terrorists to me.

Gotta call it as I see it, and it is plain as day.

Indeed it truly is sick. Tell me where I said I hoped this would happen?
It is not a state of affairs I created. Its simply a possible outcome that I can foresee.

I for one dont know who is to blame for most of the sh*t that goes on these days, and I really study hard to find the truth. There is so much crying wolf, I dont know who to believe a lot of the time.

I dare not hazard a guess as to what those who believe what they are told to believe can make of it all.

As for cheerleading for terrorists, really?
Wasnt much of the USA cheerleading the illegal terrorist actions of the US & UK forces as they invaded and executed the sovereign leader of Iraq, decimating the country that was emaciated by UN sanctions?
Cheering as the "manufactured event" of the toppling of the statue of Saddam Hussein.
Or cheering the "shock and awe" and the horrific terror of those who found their family members had been blown to pieces on LIES.

I am very much anti war, I have seen enough suffering for a lifetime. I dont cheer on terrorists. But I will cheer a freedom fighter. Because freedom is a RIGHT for every human being to share.

reply to post by GargIndia

An artifact containing Swastika from Iran is NOT a surprise.

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow

Nazi's adopted that symbol (which is ancient and was used in Iran, LOOONG before Nazi's existed), not the other way around. Also, it doesn't have any negative meaning or have anything to do with racial superiority. It's only seen in a negative light because of the association with Nazi's.

Exactly what my post was about. The caption under the picture of the golden necklace says it is 3000 years old, that would make it 2900 years older than any Naziflag. I posted the images in answer to Rednecks question for examples of swastikas in the Iranian culture.

From my post:

The Swastika is a millennia old sacred symbol, of course you'll find it in Iran.

What does the new diplomacy chage do now since syria will give chemical weapons away. Are we clear from war? If we dont attack syria now we wont in the future. And now to iran

reply to post by TheRedneck

I've been thinking about location... the last time an attack happened in the heartland (OK City), there was outrage but not a lot of support for the government to do something about it. The Trade Towers had the exact desired effect. With the current demographics and political leanings, perhaps somewhere in Texas? Dallas, Houston, Austin?

Being an Austinite for almost 30 years, I [regretably] agree that we would be a perfect target.

Why? It seems to be one of the few places left, where not only are we seemingly immune to the economic devastation that is swallowing up half of America and Americans, but we are actually thriving in spite of it.

Businesses continue to flock in to this educated and liberal haven in the middle of the state.

Festivals, and world class events continue to make Austin a stop on their busy schedules due to the people, surroundings, nightlife, [you name it].

People continue to set up shop/home in Austin at the rate of 1,000 per week, last I checked, and 3 of the Nation's top 10 fastest growing counties in around Austin!

If there was a 'bizzaro-SquirrelNutz' that wanted to make a powerful statement and bring a nation, economy, people to its knees quickly, my hometown would be perfect place for ground zero.

Excellent thread. S&F

Redneck:

Firstly, thank you for such an enlightening and compelling thread.

I relayed this information to my baby boomer parents as they are stuck in the commercially televised myopic view of all things scandalous and outrageous. Interesting to note that, after summarizing your OP, my mother stated (and I quote), "That makes perfect sense. Why wouldn't Fox News bring this up?" I told her that this mindset is a prime example of the dysfunctional manner in which most people are receiving their news. The last place one would find a broad view of nations and history would be through televised news (I suppose written news isn't much better). Stories from major outlets seem to provoke more questions than they answer for me these days.

The threads of this matter, as you have laid out, are many and complex. Our society has become too comfortable with abbreviated answers or reasons, or a short attention span response, but in my estimation, this also eliminates context. Thank you for providing the context.

My mother also asked another question which I thought I'd broadcast for the sake of discussion: If the matters put forth in the OP are public knowledge and can be stitched together to solve the puzzle, why would anyone (especially) in congress be against the strike? Certainly it's not influenced by constituency, since that hasn't seemed to matter for a long time now...

Another poster brought up the idea that perhaps a last resort is just throwing Obama under the bus. Is this possible? Would all the political posturing then be congressional members kicking into self-preservation mode?

SquirrelNutz
reply to post by TheRedneck

 

I've been thinking about location... the last time an attack happened in the heartland (OK City), there was outrage but not a lot of support for the government to do something about it. The Trade Towers had the exact desired effect. With the current demographics and political leanings, perhaps somewhere in Texas? Dallas, Houston, Austin?

Being an Austinite for almost 30 years, I [regretably] agree that we would be a perfect target.

Why? It seems to be one of the few places left, where not only are we seemingly immune to the economic devastation that is swalling up half of america and Americans, but we are actually thriving in spite of it.

Businesses continue to flock in to this educated and liberal haven in the middle of the state.

Festivals, and world class events continue to make Austin a stop on their busy schedules due to the people, surroundings, nightlife, [you name it].

People continue to set up shop/home in Austin at the rate of 1,000 per week, last I checked, and 3 of the Nation's top 10 fastest growing counties in around Austin!

If there was a 'bizzaro-SquirrelNutz' that wanted to make a powerful statement and bring a nation, economy, people to its knees quickly, my hometown would be perfect place for ground zero.

Excellent thread. S&F

Not only that, there is a large "truth movement" contingent in Austin.

Thought it was worth mentioning.

reply to post by jedi_hamster


I highly doubt they ("rebels") would strike US soil because it would have to be pinned on Syria and that would be near impossible. It would make no sense for Syria, busy with a civil war, to try a terrorist style strike on a country they are trying everything to keepaway. No one would believe it. Only a strike on our ships (just as unbelievable) or a strike on Israel would work. A strike on Israel would be just as unlikely but most Americans wouldnt understand why so that's most likely.

reply to post by FlyersFan


Yeah he's ridiculous. Who knew he was that crazy?

He and McCain are seriously blood thirsty. He is not a fan of Russia outsmarting the war mongers and eventually making it apparent to the US public that this was never a hunabitarian thing. This has done a lot to wake people up. Everuone knows they didn't want war, but soon they may know that the excuae was a lie . I still think we wikk go in, but now I'm not sure when. Maybe a week, maybe 2 months.

reply to post by talklikeapirat


My bad. I saw the discussion and incorrectly assumed there was some type of disagreement about it.

It is starting to look like there will be no action taken against Syria.

So what does that say for this latest doom porn?

How often to doom porners have to be wrong before they stop trying to predict WWIII or the end of the world?


And off topic, but why in the hell aren't people on here talking about Syria agreeing to hand over control of their chemical weapons to international control and Obama saying that would stop the strike? Are people really that cognitive dissonant that they only want to acknowledge the doom porn?

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


I know the original story is fron RT.

Just wanted to say, I despise info wars, but that is a very astute observation in that article. I didn't think about it, but if someone did use CWs on Israel it would be insane media blitz particularly because thegas and jewish people connection. There would be crazy allusions to the Nazis.

There is no way Assad would work so hard to stop intervention and then throw it away using CWs. People would have to be able to see that, right?

reply to post by TheRedneck

We tricked the enemy into attacking us back in 1941, and we will do it again. This time the target will not be military, and the attackers will not appear out of a blue Hawaiian sky. This time the attackers prefer homemade bombs set off in civilian targets to cause the most devastating effect possible.

Looks like your wrong. It was easy to fall into the mindset that you did. Obama didn't want to attack at all and now he has an excuse not to. It's popular to predict evil doings the night (metaphorically) before 9/11. If anything did happen you can say see "This is what i meant. "

Comparing the middle east to Japan pre-WW2 however, seems like a big stretch. I'm not sure there are many real historians who will buy into this theory of yours.

Syria has no oil, they have been pretty stable and were not any kind of threat to the US. The whole middle east oil thing is overblown. Iraq was not about oil in Iraq. Oil is a finite resource, it's ALWAYS better to uses someone else's resources rather than your own. It turns out North America has huge fuel resources that are untapped (who knew :p)

As far as Afghanistan and Iraq, it's really pretty simple. The US got attacked, we had to therefore go forth and smite people. The "why's" and "what fors" really don't matter. Someone had to get their ass kicked. That way, no other country gets the idea that attacking the US is a good idea. It ALWAYS needs to be a really bad idea to attack the US. Get it?


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reply to post by AlienScience


There will 100 percent be action taken against Syria. There is no way they let Syria off like that. Kerry madw that very clear today if you watched.

reply to post by AlienScience


People arw talking about it in the thread about it. The thing is, Syria wasn't the one using the CWs, that's pretty obvious. The US won't evwn admit it's a possibility that thw rebels used them which says a lot. So do you really think Kerry and Obama will agree that all the CWs have been handes over? Never. Also, if the rebels use them again then our politicians will say that Assad sidnt hand them all over. We will eventually strike Syria. If this was actually about CWs, which is naive to believe, then we wouldn't have been funding the rebels LONG before CWs were used.

GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by jedi_hamster

 

I highly doubt they ("rebels") would strike US soil because it would have to be pinned on Syria and that would be near impossible. It would make no sense for Syria, busy with a civil war, to try a terrorist style strike on a country they are trying everything to keepaway. No one would believe it. Only a strike on our ships (just as unbelievable) or a strike on Israel would work. A strike on Israel would be just as unlikely but most Americans wouldnt understand why so that's most likely.

you are joking, right?

the possibilities are endless, but lets assume that it is reasonable that they won't blame Assad directly, because he would obviously gain nothing from such attack. who would they blame for the false flag on US soil then? rebels. who said they can't throw them under the bus? they were helping them, financing them, everyone knows this, despite the fact they're linked to Al-Qaeda (and the fact that US government has been working with Al-Qaeda from the very beginning isn't something they'll admit). Assad agrees to give away chemical weapons to Russia - rebels (with CIA backing) take over at least some of them - false flag on US soil - blame rebels (Al-Qaeda strikes again!) - 'problem solved'. they could even skip the whole chemical weapons takeover and just launch a false flag today, show the consequences on all tv channels and blame Al-Qaeda, right on 9/11.

in such case, the war will begin in less than 24h - so US citizens would have to react in the most reasonable way to avoid being lured right into a trap. do you believe they will?

reply to post by jedi_hamster


No I'm not joking. Listen to what you are saying, they somehow get some chemical weapons here and usethem after working so hard to avoid US I
intervention? No one will buy that, its absurd. Anything would have to be over there.

You aren't thinking it through. First they habe already admitted in a round about way that they are aiding al Qeada.
I have no doubt they would throw the rebels under the bus, but it wouldn't make sense for any rebels to be able to pull off something here. Also, and most importantly, it would hurt the Obama admin too much. Sure they could throw the rebels under the bus BUT people won't forget that we aided them all the way. It would hurt them too much. The ONLY chance of something happening here would be a Syrian national that they clain was radical. I'm telling you the only realistic way would be something happening to Israel or one of the US ships.

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


Obama did say this last week that it would take 2 weeks to convince the US citizens that a strike on Syria was necessary -

To me, that says that there will be a false flag attack on america - and that it has to be as big as the twin towers debacle. obama seems so confident - harry reid is withholding a senate vote on war - they are planning something.

I sure hope the US citizens aren't that stupid.

lindsey graham said "nuke attack on charleston, SC"

They want WW3 - the US petro dollar is falling and we have no money, and no one left to borrow from.

You could say that obama and putin are in cahoots, and the destruction of the USA is their ultimate goal - ending with the one world gov't and currency - NWO.

Anyone with half a brain knows that obama and his actions are anti=american.

reply to post by talklikeapirat

I came home a few minutes ago ready to make a reply to this post... but I see others have beat me to it, and explained it at least as well as I could.

TheRedneck

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow

I don;t know what has made us so paranoid about heading into Syria right now, but it does appear that something has happened to make immediate involvement a necessity. Maybe Iran has made a defensive move we haven't been told about or Russia has made such a move, but something has definitely accelerated the plan. We spent how much time allowing the Syrian Spring to run its course and now all of a sudden it's imperative we act right now?

Something's happened, and it doesn't bode well.

TheRedneck