MIBs

It's seems that the MIBs is an hoax.

skepdic.com...

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[Edited on 4-7-2003 by Salem]

I have only one document on this subject and you are not going to find a link to it on the internet if people want I will copy the text I will post it here. But and I want to make it clear but I assume no responceablity for what you might think about what is written in it, Plus it is quite long.

Let me know if you want to see it and I will post the text only on the site.

Falcon

dont hold out on us, post it! or u2u us with it

[Edited on 3-7-2003 by Grommer]

I seriously disbelieve in the MIB's. I've rarely heard of them when i'm not watching Movies, and on only one of about a million UFO shows I've watched mentioned them... I also think they're one big hoax.

Giantsfan, I know of, at the most Two movies that specifically mention and even detail the operations of the MIB's.

Ok I will post it but dont say that I didnt warn you about what is written in it.

Here is part of it bare in mind that it is quite large I will post sections of this piece by piece after people have had a chance to read the parts I will post Here is part 1#


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THE FOLLOWING .DOC IS A CONGLOMERATION OF VARIOUS
TEXT FILES, SOME CLASSIFIED TOP SECRET BY US
INTELLIGENCE, OTHERS BY US PILOTS, SOLDIERS ETC,
WHICH WERE CONFISCATED AS A THREAT TO NATIONAL
SECURITY, AND THEN THEIR EXISTENCE DENIED.
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NEVADA US-ALIEN FACILITY BRIEF

After several years of research, various people have
unearthed the high possibility of EBE base areas in
the Nevada area. Observations from many individuals,
some of whom have been threatened by various parties,
have led them to the following conclusions:


* Several facilities exist within a 100-mile radius of
the Las Vegas area that are EBE operated or related.

* Underground Tunnels exist between facilities and
these tunnels have been constructed by or with the
assistance of the EBEs.

* Electromagnetic confinement zones have been set up at
various locations, and one of these locations encompasses
the Nevada Test Range Complex.

* Further interior electromagnetic confinement zones have
been constructed within the primary zones.

* Bureau of Land Management (BLM) equipment doubles as
confinement field projectors.

* Underground facilities in the area have the following
functions:

* Testing and development of Defence Space Weaponry

* Cloning of human replacement bodies with no minds
that will be occupied by implanted consciousness.

* Breeding laboratories for abducted human females.

* Biological Material processing laboratories.

* Confinement facilities for humans.

* EBE-Govt Joint Facilities.

* Facilities for Termination of Humans.

* Facilities for Testing and Development of
Gravitational Vehicles for USAF, NASA, and
the Department of Commerce.

* Transference Facilities for Human abductees.

* Vortex areas serve as entry-exit points for various aerial
vehicles. Vehicles as large as 200' diameter have been seen
for a long time at the Jumbo Peak vortex area. Blue Diamond
vortex area is also very active, and as of June 1988, disks
have been seen during daylight hours.

* The metropolitan Las Vegas area is filled with MIB related
activity and various humanoids that are observing human
activities.

-
John Lear has requested that the following file be published on
ParaNet.
The information contained in this file has not been verified by
ParaNet, nor do the opinions expressed herein necessarily reflect
those of the Administrator or other ParaNet staff members. We can
state, however, that John is who he says he is, and has numerous
contacts in sensitive positions that could allow him access to top
secret and above classified information of this type.

Statement Released By:
John Lear
December 29, 1987

John Lear, a captain for a major US Airline has flown over 160
different types of aircraft in over 50 different countries. He holds
17 world speed record in the Lear Jet and is the only pilot ever to
hold every airline certificate issued by the Federal Aviation
Administration. Mr. Lear has flown classified undocumented
missions world-wide for the CIA and other government agencies.
A former Nevada State Senator candidate, he is the son of
William P. Lear, designer of the Lear Jet executive airplane, the
8-track stereo, and founder of Lear Siegler Corporation.
Lear became interested in the subject of UFO's 13 months ago
after talking with United States Air Force Personnel who had
witnessed a UFO landing at Bentwaters AFB, near London, England,
and three small aliens walking up to the Wing Commander.

Note to the Press:
The government of the United States continues to rely on
your personal and professional gullibility to suppress the
information contained herein. Your co-operation over the past 40
years has exceeded our wildest expectations and we salute you.

(1) "The sun does not revolve around the Earth"

(2) "The United States Government has been in business
with little grey extraterrestrial for approx. 20 years"

The first truth stated here got Giordano Bruno burned at the stake
in AD 1600 for daring to propose that it was real. The second truth

has gotten far more people killed trying to state it publicly
than will ever be known.
But the truth must be told. The fact that the Earth revolves
around the sun was successfully suppressed by the church for over
200 years. It eventually cause a major upheaval in the church,
government, and thought. A realignment of social and traditional
values. That was in the 1800's.

Now, about 400 years after the first truth was pronounced we must again
face the shocking facts. The "horrible truth" the government has been
hiding from us over 40 years. Unfortunately, the "horrible truth" is
far more horrible than the government ever imagined.

In its effort to protect democracy, our government sold us to the
aliens. And here is how it happened. But before I begin, I'd like to
offer a word in the defense of those who bargained us away. They had
the best of intentions.

Germany had recovered a flying saucer as early as 1939. General
James H. Doolittle went to Sweden in 1946 to inspect a flying saucer
that had crashed there in Spitzbergen.

The "horrible truth" was known by only a very few persons: They were
indeed ugly little creatures, shaped like praying mantises and who were
more advanced than us by perhaps a billion years. Of the original group
that were the first to learn the "horrible truth", several committed
suicide, the most prominent of which was General James V. Forrestal who
jumped to his death from a 16th story hospital window. General
Forrestal's medical records are classified and sealed to this day.

President Truman quickly put a lid on the secret and turned the screws
so tight that the general public still thinks that flying saucers are a
joke. Have I ever got a surprise for them.

In 1947, President Truman established a group of 12 of the top military
scientific personnel of their time. They were known as MJ-12. Although
the group exists today, none of the original members are still alive.
The last one to die was Gordon Gray, former Secretary of the Army, in
1984. As each member passed away, the group itself appointed a new
member to fill the position. There is some speculation that the group
known as MJ-12 expanded to at least several more members.

There were several more saucer crashes in the late 1940's, one in
Roswell, New Mexico, one in Aztec, New Mexico, and one near Laredo,
Texas, about 30 miles inside the Mexican border.

Consider, if you will, the position of the United States Government at
that time. They proudly thought of themselves as the most powerful
nation on Earth, having recently produced the atomic bomb, and
achievement so stupendous, it would take Russia 4 years to catch up, and
only with the help of traitors to Democracy. They had built a jet
aircraft that had exceeded the speed of sound in flight. They had built
jet bombers with intercontinental range that could carry weapons of
enormous destruction. The post war era, and the future seemed bright.
Now imagine what it was like for those same leaders, all of whom had
witnessed the panic of Orson Wells' radio broadcast, "The War of the
Worlds", in 1938. Thousands of Americans panicked at a realistically
presented invasion of Earth by beings from another planet. Imagine their
horror as they actually viewed the dead bodies of these frightening
looking little creatures with enormous eyes, reptilian skin and claw
like fingers. Imagine their shock as they attempted to determine how
these strange "saucers" were powered and could discover no part even
remotely similar to components they were familiar with: no cylinders or
pistons, no vacuum tubes or turbines or hydraulic actuators. It is
only when you fully understand the overwhelming helplessness the
government was faced with in the late 40's that you can comprehend their
perceived need for a total, thorough and sweeping cover up, to include
the use of "deadly force".
The cover-up was so successful that as late as 1985 a senior scientist
with the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, Dr. Al
Hibbs, would look at a video tape of an enormous flying saucer and state
the record, "I'm not going to assign anything to that (UFO) phenomena
without a lot more data". Dr. Hibbs was looking at the naked emperor
and saying, "He certainly looks naked, but that doesn't prove he's
naked."

In July of 1952, a panicked government watched helplessly as squadron of
"flying saucers" flew over Washington, D.C., and buzzed the White House,
the Capitol Building, and the Pentagon. It took all the imagination and
intimidation the government could muster to force that incident out of
the memory of the public, and to confiscate all existing evidence.

Thousands of sightings occurred during the Korean war and several more
sauces were retrieved by the Air Force. Some were stored at Wright-
Patterson Air Force Base, some were stored at Air Force bases near the
location of the crash sight.

One saucer was so enormous and the logistic problems in transportation
so enormous that it was buried at the crash sight and remains there
today. The stories are legendary on transporting crashed saucers over
long distances, moving only at night, purchasing complete farms,
slashing through forests, blocking major highways, sometimes driving 2
and 3 lo-boys in tandem with and extraterrestrial load a hundred feet
in diameter.

On April 30, 1964, the first communication between these aliens and the
U.S. Government took place at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico. 3
saucers landed at a prearranged area and a meeting was held between the
aliens and intelligence officers of the U.S. Government.

During the period of 1969-1971, MJ-12 representing the U.S. Government
made a deal with these creatures, called EBE's (Extraterrestrial
Biological Entities, named by Detley Bronk, original MJ-12 member and
6th President of Johns Hopkins University). The "deal" was that in
exchange for "technology" that they would provide to us, we agreed to
"ignore" the abductions that were going on and suppress information on
the cattle mutilations. The EBE's assured MJ-12 that the abductions
(usually lasting about 2 hours) were merely the ongoing monitoring of
developing civilizations.

In fact, the purposes for the abductions turned out to be:

(1) The insertion of a 3mm spherical device through
the nasal cavity of the abductee into the brain.
the device is used for the biological monitoring,
tracking, and control of the abductee.

(2) Implementation of Posthypnotic Suggestion to carry
out a specific activity during a specific time period,
the actuation of which will occur within the next
2 to 5 years.

(3) Termination of some people so that they could function
as living sources for biological material and
substances.

(4) Termination of individuals who represent a threat to
the continuation of their activity.

(5) Effect genetic engineering experiments.

(6) Impregnation of human females and early termination of
pregnancies to secure the crossbreed infant.

The U.S. Government was not initially aware of the far reaching
consequences of their "deal". They were led to believe that the
abductions were essentially benign and since they figured the abductions
would probably go on anyway whether they agreed or not, they merely
insisted that a current list of abductees be submitted, on a periodic
basis, to MJ-12 and the National Security Council. Does this sound
incredible? An actual list of abductees sent to the National Security
Council? Read on, because I have news for you.

The EBE's have a genetic disorder in that their digestive system is
atrophied and not functional. Some speculate that they were involved in
some type of accident or nuclear war, or possibly on the back side of
an evolutionary genetic curve. In order to sustain themselves they use
an enzyme or hormonal secretion obtained from the tissue that they
extract from humans and animals. (FACT: Cows and Humans are genetically
similar. In the event of a national disaster, cow's blood can be used
by humans.)

The secretions obtained are then mixed with hydrogen peroxide and
applied on the skin by spreading or dipping parts of their bodies in the
solution. The body absorbs the solution, then excretes the waste back
through the skin. The cattle mutilations that were prevalent throughout
the period from 1973 to 1983 and publicly noted through newspaper and
magazine stories and included a documentary produced by Linda Howe for
the Denver CBS affiliate KMGH-TV, were for the collection of these
tissues by the aliens. The mutilations included genitals taken, rectums
cored out to the colon, eyes, tongue, and throat all surgically removed
with extreme precision. In some cases the incisions were made by
cutting between the cells, a process we are not yet capable of
performing in the field. In many of the mutilations there was no blood
found at all in the carcass, yet there was no vascular collapse of the
internal organs. This has been also noted in the human mutilations, one
of the first of which was Sgt. Jonathan P. Louette at the White Sands
Missile Test Range in 1956, who was found three days after an Air Force
Major had witnessed his abduction by a "disk shaped" object at 0300
while on a search for missile debris downrange. His genitals had been
removed, rectum cored out in a surgically precise "plug" up to the
colon, eyes removed and all blood removed with, again, no vascular
collapse. From some of the evidence it is apparent that this surgery is
accomplished, in most cases, while the victim, animal or human, is still
alive.

The various parts of the body are taken to various underground
laboratories, one of which is known to be near the small New Mexico town
of Dulce. This jointly occupied (CIA-Alien) facility has been described
as enormous, with huge tiled walls that "go on forever". Witnesses have
reported huge vats filled with amber liquid with parts of human bodies
being stirred inside.

After the initial agreement, Groom Lake, one of this nations most secret
test centers, was closed for a period of about a year, sometime between
about 1972 and 1974, and a huge underground facility was constructed for
and with the help of the EBE's. The "bargained for" technology was set
in place but could only be operated by the EBE's themselves. Needless
to say, the advanced technology could not be used against the EBE's
themselves, even if needed.

During the period between 1979 and 1983 it became increasingly obvious
to MJ-12 that things were not going as planned. It became known that
many more people (in the thousands) were being abducted than were listed
on the official abduction lists. In addition it became obvious that
some, not all, but some of the nation's missing children had been used
for secretions and other parts required by the aliens.

In 1979 there was an altercation of sorts at the Dulce laboratory. A
special armed forces unit was called in to try and free a number of our
people trapped in the facility, who had become aware of what was really
going on. According to one source, 66 of the soldiers were killed and
our people were not freed.

By 1984, MJ-12 must have been in stark terror at the mistake they had
made in dealing with the EBE's. They had deliberately promoted "Close
Encounters of the Third Kind" and "E.T." to get the public used to "odd
looking" aliens that were compassionate, benevolent and very much our
"space brothers". MJ-12 "sold" the EBE's to the public, and were now
faced with the fact that quite the opposite was true. In addition, a
plan was formulated in 1968 to make the public aware of the existence of
aliens on earth over the next 20 years to be culminated with several
documentaries to be released during 1985-1987 period of time. These
documentaries would explain the history and intentions of the EBE's.
The discovery of the "Grand Deception" put the entire plans, hopes and
dreams of MJ-12 into utter confusion and panic.

Meeting at the "Country Club", a remote lodge with private golf course,
comfortable sleeping and working quarters, and its own private airstrip
built by and exclusively for the member of MJ-12, it was a factional
fight of what to do now. Part of MJ-12 wanted to confess the whole
scheme and shambles it had become to the public, beg their forgiveness
and ask for their support. The other part (and majority) of MJ-12
argued that there was no way they could do that, that the situation was
untenable and there was no use in exciting the public with the "horrible
truth" and that the best plan was to continue the development of a
weapon that could be used against the EBE's under the guise of "SDI",
the Strategic Defense Initiative, which had nothing whatsoever to do
with a defense for inbound Russian nuclear missiles. As these words are
being written, Dr. Edward Teller, "father" of the H-Bomb is personally
in the test tunnels of the Nevada Test Site, driving his workers and
associates in the words of one, "like a man possessed". And well he
should, for Dr. Teller is a member of MJ-12 along with Dr. Kissenger,
Admiral Bobby Inman, and possibly Admiral Poindexter, to name a few of
the current members of MJ-12.

Before the "Grand Deception" was discovered and according to a
meticulous plan of metered release of information to the public, several
documentaries and video tapes were made. William Moore, a Burbank,
California, based UFO researcher who wrote "The Roswell Incident", a
book published in 1980 that detailed the crash, recovery and subsequent
cover-up of a UFO with 4 alien bodies, has a video tape of 2 newsmen
interviewing a military officer associated with MJ-12. This military
officer answers questions relating to the history of MJ-12 and the
cover-up, the recovery of a number of flying saucers and the existence
of a live alien (one of 3 living aliens captured and designated, or
named, EBE-1, EBE-2, and EBE-3, being held in a facility designated as
YY-II at Los Alamos, New Mexico. The only other facility of this type,
which is electromagnetically secure, is at Edwards Air Force Base in
Mojave, California). The officer names as previously mentioned
plus a few others: Harold Brown, Richard Helms, Gen. Vernon Walters,
JPL's Dr. Lew Allen and Dr. Theodore von Karman, to name a few of the
current and past members of MJ-12.

The officer also relates the fact that the EBE's claim to have created
Christ. The EBE's have a type of recording device that has recorded all
of Earth's history and can display it in the form of a hologram. This
hologram can be filmed but because of the way holograms work does not
come out very clear on movie film or video tape. The crucifixion of
Christ on the Mount of Olives has allegedly been put on film to show the
public. The EBE's claim to have created Christ, which, in view of the
"Grand Deception", could be an effort to disrupt traditional values for
undetermined reasons.

Another video tape allegedly in existence is an interview with an EBE.
Since EBE's communicate telepathically, and Air Force Colonel serves as
an interpreter. Just before the recent stock market correction in
October of 1987, several newsmen, including Bill Moore, had been invited
to Washington, D.C., to personally film the EBE in a similar type
interview, and distribute the film to the public. Apparently, because
of the correction in the market, it was felt the timing was not
propitious. In any case, it certainly seems like an odd method to
inform the public of extraterrestrials, but it would be in keeping with
the actions of a panicked organization who at this point in time doesn't
know which way to turn.

Moore is also in possession of more Aquarius documents, a few pages of
which leaked out several years ago and detailed the supersecret NASA
project which had been denied by them until just recently. In a letter
to Senator John Glenn, NSA's Director of Policy, Julia B. Wetzel, wrote,
"Apparently there is or was an Air Force project with that name
(Aquarius) which dealt with UFO's. Coincidently, there is also an NASA
project by that name." NASA's project Aquarius deals specifically with
the "communications with the aliens" (the EBE's). Within the Aquarius
program was project "Snowbird", a project to test-fly a recovered alien
aircraft at Groom Lake, Nevada. This project continues today at that
location. In the words of an individual who works at Groom Lake, "Our
people are much better at taking things apart than they are at putting
them back together."

Moore, who claims he has a contact with MJ-12, feels that they have been
stringing him along, slipping him documents and providing him leads,
promising to go public with some of the information on extraterrestrials
by the end of 1987.

Certain of Moore's statements lead one to believe that Moore himself is
a government agent working for MJ-12, not to be strung along, but string
along ever hopeful UFOlogists that the truth is just around the corner.
Consider:

1. Moore states emphatically that he is not a government
agent, although when Lee Graham (a Southern California
based UFOlogist) was investigated by DIS (Defense
Investigative Service) for possession of classified
documents received from Moore, Moore himself was not.

2. Moore states emphatically that the cattle mutilations
of 1973-1983 were a hoax by Linda Howe (producer of
"A Strange Harvest") to create publicity for herself.
He cites the book "Mute Evidence" as the bottom line of
the hoax. "Mute Evidence" was a government sponsored
book to explain the mutilations in conventional terms.


3. Moore states that the U.S.A.F. Academy physics book,
"Introductory Space Science", vol. II chapter 13, entitled
"Unidentified Flying Objects", which describes four of
the most commonly seen aliens (one of which is the EBE)
was written by Lt. Col. Edward R. Therkelson and Major
Donald B. Carpenter, Air Force personnel who did not
know what they were talking about and were merely siting
"crackpot" references. He, Moore, states that the book
was withdrawn to excise the chapter.

If the government felt they were being forced to acknowledge the
existence of aliens on Earth because of the overwhelming evidence such
as the October and November sightings in Wytheville, Va., and recently
released books such as "Night Siege" (Hynek, J. Allen;Imbrogno, Phillip
J.;Pratt, Bob:Night Siege, Ballantine Books, Random House, New York),
and taking into consideration the "grand deception" and obviously hostile
intentions of the EBE's, it might be expedient for MJ-12 to admit the
EBE's but conceal the information on the mutilations and abductions. If
MJ-12 and Moore were in some kind of agreement then it would be
beneficial to Moore to tow the party line. For example, MJ-12 would
say..."here are some more genuine documents...but remember...no talking
about the mutilations or abductions". This would be beneficial to Moore
as it would supply the evidence to support his theory that E.T.'s exist
but deny the truths about the E.T.'s. However, if Moore was indeed
working for MJ-12, he would follow the party line anyway...admitting the
E.T.'s but pooh poohing the mutilations and abductions. If working
alone, Moore might not even be aware of the "grand deception".

Time will tell. It is possible that Moore will go ahead and release the
video interview with the military officer around the first of the year,
as he has promised. From MJ-12's point of view, the public would be
exposed to the information without really having to believe it because
Moore is essentially not as credible a source as, say, the President of
the United States. After a few months of digestion and discussion, a
more credible source could emerge with a statement that yes in fact the
interview was essentially factual. This scenario would cushion somewhat
the blow to the public. If, however, Moore does not release the tape
by, say, February 1 of 19XX, but comes instead with a story similar to:
"MJ-12 has informed me that they are definitely planning a release of
all information by October of XX. I have seen the plan and have seen
the guarantee that this will happen, so I have decided to withhold the
release of my video tape at this time as it may cause some problems with
MJ-12's plans." This would in effect buy more time for MJ-12 and time
is what they desperately need.

Now you ask, "Why haven't I heard about any of this?" Who do you think
you would hear it from? Dan Rather? Tom Brokaw? Sam Donaldson?
Wrong. These people just read the news, they don't find it. They have
ladies who call and interview witnesses and verify statements on stories
coming over the wire (either AP or UPI). It's not like Dan Rather would
go down to Wytheville, Virginia, and dig into why there were 4 THOUSAND
reported sightings in October and November of 1987. Better that Tom
Brokaw or someone else should risk their credibility on this type of
story. Tom Brokaw? Tom wants Sam Donaldson to risk his credibility.
No one, but no one, is going to risk their neck on such outlandish
ideas, regardless of how many people report sightings of 900 foot
objects running them off the road. In the case of the Wytheville
sightings, dozens of vans with NASA lettered on the side failed to
interest newsmen. And those that asked questions were informed that
NASA was doing a weather survey.
Well then, you ask, what about our scientists? What about Carl Sagan?
Isaac Asimov? Arthur C. Clarke? Wouldn't they have known? If Carl
Sagan knows then he is committing a great fraud through the solicitation
of memberships in the Planetary Society, "to search for extraterrestrial
intelligence". Another charade into which the U.S. Government dumps
million of dollar every year is the radiotelescope in Arecibo, Puerto
Rico, operated by Cornell University with - guess who? - Carl Sagan.
Cornell is ostensibly searching for signals from Outer Space, a sign
maybe, that somebody is out there. It is hard to believe that
relatively intelligent astronomers like Sagan could be so ignorant.

What about Isaac Asimov? Surely the most prolific science fiction
writer of all time would have guessed by now that there must be an
enormous cover-up? Maybe, but if he knows he's not saying. Perhaps
he's afraid that Foundation and Empire will turn out to be inaccurate.

What about Arthur C. Clarke? Surely the most technically accurate of
Science Fiction writers with very close ties to NASA would have at least
a hint of what's really going on. Again, if so he isn't talking. In a
recent Science Fiction survey, Clarke estimates that contact with
extraterrestrial intelligent life would not occur before the 21st
Century.

If the government won't tell us the truth and the major networks won't
even give it serious consideration, then what is the big picture,
anyway? Are the EBE's, having done a hundred thousand or more
abductions (possibly millions worldwide), built an untold number of
secret underground bases (Groom Lake, Nevada; Sunspot, Datil, Roswell,
and Pine Town, New Mexico, just to name a few) getting ready to return
to wherever they came from? Or, form the obvious preparations are we to
assume that they are getting ready for a big move? Or is the more 3
sinister and most probable situation that the invasion is essentially
complete and it is all over but the screaming?

A well planned invasion of Earth for it's resources and benefits would
not begin with mass landings of ray-gun equipped aliens. A properly
planned and executed invasion by a civilization thousands and probably
hundreds of thousands of years in advance of us would most likely be
complete before even a handful of people, say 12?, realized what was
happening. No fuss, no muss. The best advice I can give you is this:
Next time you see a flying saucer and are awed by its obvious display of
technology and gorgeous lights of pure color - RUN LIKE HELL!












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A SITUATION REPORT ON OUR ACQUISITION OF ADVANCED
TECHNOLOGY AND INTERACTION WITH ALIEN CULTURES


JANUARY 1988


BY
O.H. KRILL


ABSTRACT


Throughout the forty year period when UFO have been actively
observed in our civilization, a lot of data has been gathered --
data which has often pointed to aspects of the phenomena that have
been supressed. As a result of the suppression and
compartmentalization of the information, our culture has been
fragmented into several levels of "reality" which both co-exist
and oppose each other. Part of our culture does not or will not
believe in the existence of other species; part of our culture
acknowledges their existence or the probability of their
existence; part of our culture is actually interacting with the
other species. These simultaneous realities contribute to the
condition of extreme confusion in which we find ourselves.
Research into UFO's follows a similar pattern. Some view the
matter in a completely empirical perspective; others search for
patterns and functional relationships in events; still others go
out and ask the right questions at the right time and get answers.
Some of those answers that have appeared are, to some people,
quite disturbing and fantastic.
All in all, we are dealing with new concepts in physics, new
concepts in psychology, and the gradually growing awareness that
we are not only not alone here, but we have never been alone here.
As if that were not enough, it turns out that factions of our
society have known this, and apparently have been interacting with
some of these alien species for quite a while.
The bottom line is that all along, humanity has been led down
a false path, a path that has been plagued by layer upon layer of
conspiracies and disinformation. Technological knowledge and
absolute power have been the motives on the human side. Survival
has been the motive on the alien side, or at least as far as the
predominant alien visitors are concerned.
The intent of this paper is to bring much of the details
regarding this into the open. You are not being asked to believe
it, but to consider it in the light of what has happened, what is
happening, and what may be developing right under our very noses.
If you find that you cannot stomach such thoughts, or that you
cannot deal with it, read no further.


It is quite evident, or it should be, that the UFO situation
is both complex and dangerous. The UFO problem is a multi-
situational and multi-dimensional phenomena. We have established
the following as having a basis in fact:

o Craft from other worlds have crashed on Earth.
o Alien craft are from both ultra-dimensional sources
and sources within this dimension.
o Early U.S. government efforts at acquiring alien
technology were successful.
o The U.S. government has had live alien hostages at
some point in time.
o The government has conducted autopsies on alien
cadavers.
o U.S. intelligence agencies, security agencies, and
public agencies are involved in the coverup of facts
pertaining to the situation.
o People have been and are currently abducted,
mutilated, murdered and kidnapped as a result of the
UFO situation.
o There is a current active alien presence on this
planet among us that controls difference elements of
our society.
o Alien forces maintain bases on Earth and on the Moon.
o The U.S. government has had a working relationship
with alien forces for some time, with the express
purpose of gaining technology in gravitational
propulsion, beam weaponry and mind control.
o Millions of cattle have been killed in the process
of acquiring biological materials.
o Both aliens and the U.S. government are responsible
for mutilations, but for different reasons.
o We live in a multi-dimensional world that is
overlapped and visited by entities from other
dimensions. Many of these entities are hostile.
Many are not hostile.
o The basis of our genetic development and religions
lies in intervention by non-terrestrial and
terrestrial forces.
o Actual technology far exceeds that perceived by
the public.
o The United States space program is a cover operation
that exists for public relations purposes.
o People are being actively killed in order to suppress
the facts about the situation. The CIA and the NSA
are involved so deeply that exposure would cause
collapse of their overt structure.
o Facts indicate alien overt presence within five to
ten years.
o Our civilization is one of many that have existed in
the last billion years.


You will probably have more conclusions. To see, just read on....





Animal Mutilations and UFOs
---------------------------

General Chronology

In the middle of 1963, a series of livestock attacks occurred
in Haskell County, Texas. In a typical case, an Angus bull was
found with its throat slashed and a saucer-sized wound in its
stomach. The citizenry attributed the attacks to a wild beast of
some sort, a "vanishing varmint." As it continued its furtive
forays through the Haskell County outback, the bloodluster assumed
somewhat more mythic proportions and a new name was destined to
endure: The Haskell Rascal.
Throughout the following decade, there would be sporadic
reports of similar attacks on livestock. These attacks were
occasionally described as "mutilations." The most prominent of
these infrequent reports was the mutilation death of "Snippy" the
horse in southern Colorado in 1967, accompanied by area UFO
sightings, a Condon Committee investigation and worldwide press
coverage.
It was in 1973 that the modern animal mutilation wave can be
said to have begun in earnest. That year is generally thought of
as the year of the last concerted UFO flap, although there may be
reason to question that contention, given the events of two years
later.
In 1973 and 1974 the majority of the classic mutilation
reports originated in the central United States.
In 1975, an unprecedented onslaught spread across the western
two-thirds of the United States. Mutilation reports peaked in that
year, accompanied by accounts of UFOs and unidentified
helicopters. In 1978, the attacks increased.
By 1979, numerous livestock mutilations were occurring in
Canada, primarily in Alberta and Saskatchewan. Attacks in the
United States leveled off.
In 1980, there was an increase in activity in the United
States. Mutilations have been reported less frequently since that
year, though this may be due in part to an increased reluctance to
report mutilations on the part of ranchers and farmers. The
mutilations still continue. Over ten thousand animals have died in
the United States; although the mutilations have been occurring
worldwide, the same circumstances are always present.

General Observations

Any investigation which intends to probe the systematic
occurrence of the mutilation attacks upon livestock and other
animals must include within its purview certain factors which may
or may not be directly related to the acts of mutilation
themselves. These mutilations -- the killing and furtive removal
of external or internal parts -- have been directed at literally
thousands of animals (primarily livestock) since the 1960s. The
surgery on these animals is primarily conducted with uncanny
precision, suggesting the use of highly sophisticated implements
and techniques. The numbing and persistent regularity of the
mutilations and the seemingly casual disposal of the useless
carcasses all hint at extreme confidence -- even arrogance -- of
the mutilators. It is an arrogance which appears to be justified
by the freedom and impunity with which these acts have been
carried out.


When people have had a chance to read this I will post part 2

Falcon

Anyone remember the alien autopsy?
How did the US government pull it off to the general public that its nothing more than just a scam?

Anyone got the insight?

Dame i t was a scam the govt always lies.

Originally posted by drunk
Dame i t was a scam the govt always lies.

Yes dude but how did the government pull that off, what did they say to the general public? "Oops I did it again"??

Dunno just told aload of crap as usual cos ppl must have believed it then cos nothibng like that had ever been told so the public had to believe them

Here is part 2# If I divide the file in to seperate text like this it will come out to be about 4 to 6 parts.

Here is Part 2:


The pertinence of a specific element of the problem is
shortly revealed in the course of any thorough investigation into
the mutilations. I refer to the appearance of unmarked and
otherwise unidentified helicopters within a spatial and temporal
proximity of animal mutilation sites. The occurrence of the two
has been persistent enough to supercede coincidence.
These mystery helicopters are almost always without
identifying markings, or markings may appear to have been painted
over or covered with something. The helicopters are frequently
reported flying at abnormal, unsafe or illegal altitudes. They may
shy away if witnesses or law officers try to approach.
There are several accounts of aggressive behavior on the part
of the helicopter occupants, with witnesses chased, "buzzed,"
hovered over or even fired upon. At times these choppers appear
very near mutilation sites, even hovering over a pasture where a
mutilated carcass is later found. They may be observed shortly
before or after mutilations occur -- or within days of a
mutilation. The intention here is merely to stress that the
"mystery helicopter" element is a part of the issue which deserves
scrutiny.
The idea of "mystery helicopters" did not develop
concurrently with the animal mutilations themselves. Such
helicopters -- unmarked, flying at low levels, soundless (or
sounding like helicopters) -- have been reported for years, and
have been linked to an even more widespread phenomenon -- the
"phantom" (fixed wing) aircraft. The helicopters themselves have
been seen in area where UFOs were reported, in many countries. In
some of the more interesting accounts, the mystery helicopters
were seen with UFOs, or shortly after the UFOs were sighted.
The most apt case I can think of, but certainly not the most
isolated, is a case described by Virgil Armstrong in his lecture
on "What NASA Didn't Tell Us About the Moon." He discusses
helicopters and UFOs in general.
Armstrong describes a friend of his that had invented a
special camera arrangement with the idea that it would increase
the chances of getting good pictures of UFOs. The camera was
mounted on a gunstock along with a laser. The idea was to fire the
laser at the UFO, if one appeared, and hopefully the UFO would
come to a halt, enabling him to take some quality pictures.
Not too long after they were set up in the desert, a UFO did
in fact appear, and they fired the laser and the disk stopped in a
hovering mode. They took quite a few good pictures of it. Shortly
thereafter, the disk flew away. Within minutes, they heard the
unmistakable sound of helicopters coming their way. The
helicopters landed strategically around their group, and out of
the choppers came a croup of Black Berets, which are strategic Air
Force security forces. The commander of the Berets walked up to
the group and said, "What are you doing here?" "Obviously, we are
photographing flying objects, and we just saw a flying saucer and
we got some very very good pictures of it." The commander then
asked the leader of the group if he knew where he was. The group
leader replied "No." The commander then said, "We suggest you get
out of here right now!" The group leader then asked, "What right
do you have to tell us to get out of here? Is this government
land?" The commander of the Black Berets replied, "Indeed it is.
It is Andrews Air Force Base, and if you are not out of here in
ten minutes, you are under arrest." With that, the Berets removed
the film from the camera, and the group left.
Not only does this illustrate one kind of instance where UFOs
are seen in relationship to helicopters, but it also illustrates
the fact that either some of the disks are ours, or we have a
military/government relationship with those who fly them. The
helicopters mentioned above are not the mystery ones, but were
United States military ones.
Another case of military helicopters and United States-owned
disks comes from the book "UFO Crash at Aztec," by Wendell
Stevens. In the book he relates the incident where an Indian was
backpacking in the mountains in the vicinity of Area 51, Groom
Lake, on the Nellis AFB range north of Las Vegas. He heard
approaching helicopters and hid out of sight. The helicopters were
broadcasting a warning over public address systems for anyone in
the area to show themselves because they were going to conduct a
"dangerous military test." The Indian maintained his hidden
posture, and the helicopters flew overhead and back down toward
the Groom Lake facility. Minutes later, two helicopters were seen
flying up the canyon with a black disk flying between them and
slightly above them. They flew overhead and then the helicopters
turned around and flew back towards the base, followed shortly
afterward by the disk. The individual's name and how to contact
him for further details is given in the book.


The Mystery Choppers

Situations involving the mystery helicopters appear to be a
little more insidious. A good example is an event which occurred
in Madison County, Montana, between June and October of 1976.
Twenty-two confirmed cattle mutilations had occurred during that
period, and they were accompanied by reports throughout the county
of silent, unmarked, jet-black helicopters, flashing or steady
anomalous lights in the air and near the ground, unmarked fixed-
wing aircraft and white vans in remote and previously inaccessible
areas.
Toward the latter part of this period, in early autumn of
1976, a hunter from Bozeman, Montana, was out alone around 3:00pm
one day in the Red Mountain area near Norris. He watched as a
black helicopter without markings flew overhead and disappeared
below a small hill. The curious hunter climbed to the top of the
hill. There was the black chopper (a Bell Jet Ranger, he thought)
on the ground, the engine still running. Seven men had apparently
exited from the craft and were walking up the hill toward the
observer. As the hunter advanced toward the seven, he waved and
shouted congenial greetings. It was then that he realized there
was something about the men -- they were all Oriental. They had
slanted eyes and olive skin and were jabbering among themselves in
some indecipherable language. They wore "everyday" clothes, not
uniforms. Suddenly they began to return to the helicopter. The
hunter, still waving and shouting friendly greetings, started
after them. The Orientals quickened their pace. When the hunter
approached within five or six feet, they broke into a dead run,
crowded into the chopper and took off.
In a documented "mystery helicopter" wave in England,
accounts place Oriental-appearing occupants in an unidentified
chopper. Slant-eyed, olive skinned, Oriental-seeming occupants
have been a staple at the heart and at the periphery of UFO
accounts for years. Significant numbers of the infamous "men-in-
black" (MIB) have a similar appearance, but very often they are
seen as very pale and gaunt men who are sensitive to light.
In STIGMATA No. 5 (Fall-Winter 1978) Tom Adams outlined the
most prominent speculative explanations accounting for the
mutilation/helicopter link, including the following:

o The helicopters are themselves UFOs, disguised to
appear as terrestrial craft.
o The choppers originate from within the U.S.
government/military and are directly involved in
conducting the actual mutilations.
o The helicopters are government/military and are not
involved in the mutilations but are investigating
them.
o The helicopters are government/military, and they
know about the identity and motives of the
mutilators and by their presence, they are trying to
divert attention to the possibility of involvement
by the military.

The answer, as far as Tom Adams is concerned, could be a
combination of the above explanations. There also has been
speculation that they are involved in biological experiments with
chemical or biological warfare or the geobotanical pursuit
of petroleum and mineral deposits. On one occasion, an army
standard-type scalpel was found at a mutilation site. Since the
disks have been mostly involved with the mutilations, it is
thought that this was a diversionary event.
These events, or the discussion of them, is just the
precursor to the actual revelations of what is behind the
mutilations: alien acquisition of biological materials for their
own use. To discuss this in a logical and sequential manner, we
must review what has been really happening right under our noses:
direct interaction with extraterrestrial biological entities
(EBE's). To discuss that, however, we must attempt to start at the
beginning with what we now know to be true.

The Saga Begins

It seemingly all began thousands of years ago, but for the
purposes of this discussion, let's start with some events that we
all are familiar with. In 1947, two years after we set off the
first nuclear explosion that our current civilization detonated,
came the Mantell episode, where we had the first recorded incident
of a military confrontation with extraterrestrials that resulted
in the death of a military pilot. It is quite evident now that our
government did not known quite how to handle the situation. In
1952, the nation's capital was overflown by a series of disks. It
was this event which led to the involvement of United States
security forces (CIA, NSA, DIA, FBI) to try to keep the situation
under control until they could understand what was happening.
During this period, the government established a working group,
known as Majestic Twelve (MJ-12). The original members were:
Admiral Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter, Dr. Vannevar Bush, Secretary
James Forrestal, General Nathan P. Twining, General Hoyt S.
Vandenburg, Dr. Detlev Bronk, Dr. Jerome Hunsaker, Mr. Sidney W.
Souers, Mr. Gordon Gray, Dr. Donald Menzel, General Robert M.
Montague, and Dr. Lloyd V. Berkner.
The MJ-12 group has been a continuously existing group since
it was created, with new members replacing others that die. For
example, when Secretary Forrestal was upset at seeing the United
States sold out in World War II, he wound up being sent to a Naval
hospital for "emotional strain". Before relatives could get to him,
he "jumped out a 16th story window." Most persons close to him
consider his suicide contrived. When Forrestal died, he was
replaced by General Walter B. Smith.
In December of 1947, Project Sign was created to acquire as
much information as possible about UFOs, their performance
characteristics and their purposes. In order to preserve security,
liaison between Project Sign and MJ-12 was limited to two
individuals within the intelligence division of the Air Materiel
Command whose role it was to pass along certain types of
information through channels. Project Sign evolved into Project
Grudge in December, 1948. Project Grudge had an overt civilian
counterpart named Project Bluebook, with which we are all
familiar. Only "safe" reports were passed to Bluebook. In 1949,
MJ-12 evolved an initial plan of contingency called MJ-1949-04P/78
that was to make allowance for public disclosure of some data
should the necessity present itself.
Majestic Twelve was originally organized by General George C.
Marshall in July, 1947, to study the Roswell-Magdalena UFO crash
recovery and debris. Admiral Hillenkoetter, director of the CIA
from May 1, 1947, until September, 1950, decided to activate the
"Robertson Panel," which was designed to monitor civilian UFO
study groups that were appearing all over the country. He also
joined NICAP in 1956 and was chosen as a member of its board of
directors. It was from this position that he was able to act as
the MJ-12 "mole," along with his team of other covert experts.
They were able to steer NICAP in any direction they wanted to go.
With the "Flying Saucer Program" under complete control of MJ-12
and with the physical evidence hidden away, General Marshall felt
more at ease with this very bizarre situation. These men and their
successors have most successfully kept most of the public fooled
for 39 years, including much of the western world, by setting up
false experts and throwing their influence behind them to make
their plan work, with considerable success. Until now.
Within six months of the Roswell crash on 2 July 1947 and the
finding of another crashed UFO at San Augustine Flats near
Magdalena, New Mexico, on 3 July 1947, a great deal of
reorganization of agencies and shuffling of people took place. The
main thrust behind the original "security lid," and the very
reason for its construction, was the analysis and attempted
duplication of the technologies of the disks. That activity is
headed up by the following groups:

o The Research and Development Board (R&DB)
o Air Force Research and Development (AFRD)
o The Office of Naval Research (ONR)
o CIA Office of Scientific Intelligence (CIA-OSI)
o NSA Office Of Scientific Intelligence (NSA-OSI)

No single one of these groups was supposed to know the whole
story. Each group was to know only the parts that MJ-12 allowed
them to know. MJ-12 also operates through the various civilian
intelligence and investigative groups. The CIA and the FBI are
manipulated by MJ-12 to carry out their purposes. The NSA was
created in the first place to protect the secret of the recovered
flying disks, and eventually got complete control over all
communications intelligence.

This control allows the NSA to monitor any individual through
mail, telephone, telexes, telegrams, and now through online
computers, monitoring private and personal communications as they
choose. In fact, the present-day NSA is the current main extension
of MJ-12 pertaining to the "Flying Saucer Program." Vast amounts
of disinformation are spread throughout the UFO research field.
Any witnesses to any aspect of the program have their lives
monitored in every detail, for each has signed a security oath.
For people who have worked in the program, including military
members, breaking that oath could have any on of the following
direct consequences:

o A verbal warning accompanied by a review of the
security oath.
o A stronger warning, sometimes accompanied by a brow-
beating and intimidation.
o Psychologically working on an individual to bring on
depression that will lead to suicide.
o Murder of the person made to appear as a suicide or
accident.
o Strange and sudden accidents, always fatal.
o Confinement in special "detention centers."
o Confinement in "insane asylums" where they are
"treated" by mind-control and deprogramming
techniques. Individuals are released with changed
personalities, identities, and altered memories.
o Bringing the individual into the "inside," where he
is employed and works for "them," and where he can be
watched. This is usually in closed facilities with
little contact with the outside world. Underground
facilities are the usual place for this.


Any individual who they perceive to be "too close to the
truth" will be treated in the same manner. MJ-12 will go to any
length to preserve and protect the ultimate secret. As we will see
later, the characteristics of what this ultimate secret would turn
out to be would change drastically, for it was something even MJ-
12 could not predict -- actual contact with alien groups.
How the actual contact between the government and aliens was
initially made is not known, but the government was made aware
that it could be done by a civilian using the right equipment.
Dr. Paul Bennewitz, civilian scientist, did so using computer
equipment and informed the government he had done so, not
realizing that by then, in 1983, that the government was in truth
as deep into dealing with the aliens as his communications with
them revealed. Dr. Bennewitz lives next to Manzano Weapons Storage
Area in Albuquerque, New Mexico. He observed UFOs constantly over
the area and initially decided that they were a threat to the
installation. He proceeded to figure out a coding system and
attempted and was successful in communicating with the aliens that
were flying over that area.
What he found out is that after initial contacts with the
aliens years ago, we agreed to to provide them with bases
underground in the United States in return for certain
technological secrets which the aliens would reveal to us. The
aliens would also be allowed to carry out certain operations,
abductions, and mutilations without intervention.
The original contact between the government and the
extraterrestrial biological entities, who are grey in color and
about 3.5 to 4.5 feet high (hereafter referred to as the Greys),
was achieved between 1947 and 1951. We knew that the Greys were
instrumental in performing the mutilations of animals (and some
humans) and that they were using the glandular substances derived
from these materials for food (absorbed through the skin) and to
clone more Greys in their underground laboratories. The government
was also aware that the Greys performed some of the abductions to
secure genetic materials. The government insisted that the Greys
provide them with a list that would be presented to the National
Security Council.
Through all this, the government thought that the Greys were
basically tolerable creatures, although a bit distasteful. They
presumed at the time that it was not unreasonable to assume that
the public would and could get used to their presence. Between
1968 and 1969 a plan was formulated to make the public aware of
their existence over the succeeding twenty years. This time period
would culminate with a series of documentaries that would explain
the history and intentions of the Greys.
The Greys assured us that the real purpose of the abductions
was for monitoring of our civilization, and when we learned that
the abductions were a lot more frequent and insidious than we were
led to believe, the government became concerned. Their concern was
also based on additional information regarding the purposes for
the abductions:

o Insertion of a 3mm spherical biological monitoring
device through the nasal cavity into the brain of the
abductee.
o Implementing subliminal post-hypnotic suggestions
that would compel the abductee to perform some
specific act at a time to be within the next two
to five years.
o Genetic crossbreeding between the Greys and human
beings.
o Insertion of discoid monitoring devices into the
muscle tissue of the abductees. Presence of these has
been verified by x-ray.

By the time we had found out the truth about the intentions
of the Greys (they intend to stay here and stay in control of our
world) it was too late. We had already "sold out" humanity. Not
that it would have made any difference, because they were here
doing what they were doing anyway.
In 1983, a story was outlined by government sources that said
that the Greys are responsible for our biological evolution
through manipulation of the DNA of already evolving primates on
this planet. Various time intervals of the DNA manipulation were
specified for 25,000, 15,000, 5,000, and 2,500 years ago.
Originally, the government thought that the Greys meant us no
harm, but today, in 1988, the picture that is emerging is exactly
the opposite. The story now is one of great deception at several
different levels: the Greys Trojan Horse-style manipulation and
lying which allied MJ-12 forces with them four decades ago; the
government's disinformation of the subject of UFOs in order to
perpetuate the agreement with the Greys free of public scrutiny;
the lies to the abductees; the Greys on-going abduction of people
and mutilation of animals in order to harvest enzymes, blood and
other tissues for their own survival needs; and a genetic blend of
the Grey race and a tall Nordic race to enable Grey interface with
humans to be done with greater ease.
Information from a source at a southwest Army base reveals
that these multiple levels of deception are true. It is also
indicated that the goal of SDI (Star Wars) is actually to follow
through with an attack, proposed by the Greys, on the Nordics when
they arrive en masse between now and 1992. This time schedule
seems to match with the post-hypnotic programming of many
abductees for actions between the next two to five years.
This same source sees the world dominated and controlled by
the Greys in a way similar to that portrayed in the "V" television
series -- they are concerned only for their own survival agenda,
and this agenda requires biological substances from other life
forms on our planet.
The apparent reasoning for the Grey preoccupation with this
is due to their lack of a formal digestive tract and the fact that
they absorb nutrients and excrete waste directly through the skin.
The substances that they acquire are mixed with hydrogen peroxide
and "painted" on their skin, allowing absorption of the required
nutrients. It is construed from this that some weaponry against
them might be geared in this direction.

ive got an website on the men in black...its not
completed...but anyways here it is
Click Here

I think that the MIB's are part of the National Security Agency's secret counterintellegence unit. It's a well known fact the the NSA is the Most secretive of the intellegence and security agencies. They even employ Marines/EX-Mariner to guard the perimeter of their headquarters, which is nicknamed the Puzzle Palace. Even the Executive Order that created the NSA is still Classified Above TOP SECRET. If any agency could hide MIB's it would have to be NSA.

Tim

Around the time of the Roswell crash they made a unit of scientists, and military officers to reasearch the possibility of aliens. Well I know for a fact from documents and stuff that this existed. What if it still exists? These could be the guys. Or maybe MIB's are just the best of the best, Like spies in China are chosen at birth to become spies and trained there whole lives, who knows maybe we do that with the MIB's.

Or maybe its just FBI guys that smoke crack and dont blink anymore!

People MIB's are not real. Their are no such things of aliens. Except the term refering to illegal immigrants. Their is definetly no such things of aliens. I have no found one thing. That will win me over to believe in such things of those. Everything that I have come across are fake. But that doesn't mean i don't believe in secret undergound bases like Area 51. But I do not believe the alien saucers in them. But if anyone would like to show things that are real and and try to prove to me that they do exist. Go ahead. I would be more than happy to look at your information.

Their are no such things of aliens. Except the term refering to illegal immigrants. Their is definetly no such things of aliens. I have no found one thing.

Yeah, well that is YOUR opinion, please don�t push it as "Law" and "Fact".
My opinion is that it�d be strange if there were not any Aliens. I keep thinking of the Bible as main evidence nowadays.

what do you mean about the Bible thing. And I don't mean to say my last comment as a fact. I was just stating my opinion. Sorry if i came off rude.

MIBs are weird.
The sightings of them are so old tho....
I am reading the files of texts of stories, anyone have any 2004 stories?
How old are they? Are they STILL here.
who were they or who are they?

Nice Read.. If I ever see an ET/EBE, MJ-12 member, or high government official, im going to bring them into my house and give them some hell of an enterogation. I'll get them in a few years..

[edit on 28-12-2004 by faddinglight]

The only thing I know about the MIB is that Will Smith is somehow a part of it. "Come on everybody just nod ya head like this"