Who Killed Kennedy?

reply to post by Grifter42


Pretty sure it was the CIA, and when you look to the origins and the originating founders of the CIA it traces back to another organization called SMOM or Sovereign Military Order of Malta. The CIA also got their start as demolitions experts during the second world war.

If there's a devil in the world he (it) has two faces, one that of a Banker, and two, a black bag black-op CIA a-hole.

They are at the root and source of the dark shadow government. They are and have been a blight on the world, and were surely also involved in the 9/11 event working collaboratively with the Isreali Mossad (remember all those art students - turned out they were demolitions experts).

There is a great evil in the world and it's not radical Islam which is a tool of the CIA.

Their trick? They play both sides against the middle.


Out Satan must go, every hair and feather.” ― George MacDonald.

One thing I always found curious. Every other presidential assassin throughout our country's history has taken credit for the killing to explain their agenda. Yet, LHO, at every opportunity, denied he shot JFK. That in itself always intrigued me.

Oswald was without a doubt a Manchurian Candidate. It's obvious that LHO was being "handled" by various intelligence agencies since his induction into the Marines, October 24, 1956, probably earlier.

The Manchurian Candidate (1959), by Richard Condon, is a political thriller novel about the son of a prominent US political family who is brainwashed into being an unwitting assassin for a Communist conspiracy.

Oswald's backstory and connections with known intelligence operators is the first conspiracy.
The second conspiracy is in two parts, A) set up and B) execution of the hit in Dallas, on Texas home turf.
And the third conspiracy is the cover up of evidence after the fact.

The first step in figuring this out will be to name the names and apportion them to one or more phases of the conspiracy, part 1, 2A, 2B or 3, or the special role of middle man.

For example. George de Mohrenschildt plays a role in part 1 and part 3.
For example. Jack Ruby is involved in part 3.
Gerald Ford and Earl Warren are involved in part 3.
Marina Oswald is involved in part 1 and 3.

The Dallas political group, Earle Cabell Mayor of Dallas, (also the brother of Charles Cabell, CIA, who resigned after the Bay of Pigs), would be involved for part 2A but not part 2B.

2B is difficult because that group is consisting of only the killers. The killers are enrolled in the conspiracy by middle-men.

The special role of middle men is that they are not calling the shots; The middle-men are bag men and go-betweens for the members of part 1, 2A and part 3. I think Jack Ruby fits as a middle man.

2B is probably made up of mafia hitmen or veterans of the Bay of Pigs operation. Oswald is forced into this group by virtue of his presence at the Texas School Book Depository, a job he gained due to his connections with Ruth Paine.

Ruth Paine is involved in Part 1 and Part 3.

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The assassination was compartmentalized and has been well managed for 50 years, including the 25 years timespan that Frank Sinatra's Manchurian Candidate was kept out of the public domain.

According to rumor, Sinatra removed the film from distribution after the John F. Kennedy assassination on November 22, 1963. Michael Schlesinger, who was responsible for the film's 1988 reissue by MGM/UA, denies the rumor. According to him, the film's apparent withdrawal was not due to the assassination, but due to lack of public interest by 1963. Sinatra's representatives acquired rights to the film in 1972 after the initial contract with United Artists expired, but he later stated that he was unaware of the transaction at the time. After a successful showing at the New York Film Festival in 1987 renewed public interest in the film, the studio reacquired the rights and it became again available for theater and video releases.[6][7]

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Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, America's Invisible Government, and the Hidden History of the Last Fifty Years

Thank you Gut!

Excellent post as always. I must acquire this book in honor of JFK 50
years gone.

SayonaraJupiter
Oswald was without a doubt a Manchurian Candidate. It's obvious that LHO was being "handled" by various intelligence agencies since his induction into the Marines, October 24, 1956, probably earlier.

Beautifully put together post!

It started suddenly about three months ago and I'm still trying to digest what I've found out and it seems something new just keeps on coming.

Now I see that FOIA requests have shown that both Mr. and Mrs. Paine were not only friends with Murchison, but had CIA connections as well...

As many times as I've heard it mentioned, I've never read the book. Is the opening scene of the rarities vid I put up that has Sinatra from the movie of the same name? I'll plan on checking out both.

It is extremely distressing to see the script you laid out and know that that could happen to OUR president in the "real world".

I just listened to an internet blog over the weekend that had two younger guys going on about how it will take all the "conspiracy geezers" passing away for the silliness to stop. I wonder if they are aware of how many conspirators were prosecuted for the conspiracy to kill Lincoln?

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Yes,yes "conspiracy gezzers" because we all know these writers and bloggers are just far too sophisticated and hip to buy into a cover-up and yet they just can't seem to explain all the evidence that points to a coup.

mike dangerously
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Yes,yes "conspiracy gezzers" because we all know these writers and bloggers are just far too sophisticated and hip to buy into a cover-up and yet they just can't seem to explain all the evidence that points to a coup.

Who can pull so many strings? It can only be a Godfather figure. Who could that be in 1963? Nixon? Hughes? LBJ?

reply to post by CornShucker

As many times as I've heard it mentioned, I've never read the book. Is the opening scene of the rarities vid I put up that has Sinatra from the movie of the same name? I'll plan on checking out both.

It is extremely distressing to see the script you laid out and know that that could happen to OUR president in the "real world".

Don't miss "Manchurian Candidate" it's essential. You will not be disappointed. It's hard to believe that people were unable to see this film for 25+ years when it went out of circulation shortly after it's release.

That's somewhat similar to what happened to David Miller/Mark Lane's classic 1973 film "Executive Action". That film was quickly removed from the theaters and was not seen again for some years.

The criticism of the film and its suggestion of a Military-industrial complex conspiracy led to the film being removed totally from the movie theaters by early December 1973 and getting no TV/Video runs until the 1980s and mid-1990s, when it got legal release and distribution for TV and video. The film was originally released on November 7, 1973, almost two weeks before the tenth anniversary of the JFK Assassination.

I did a thread on Mark Lane and Executive Action. I think that both these films are important and required viewing for the simple fact that they were both out of circulation for so long.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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Very good! I'm gonna be busy over there for a while...

CornShucker
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Very good! I'm gonna be busy over there for a while...

No hurry. We've all been studying this for 50 years. Any new insights you have will be most valuable

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I'm writing a commemorative speech about him. The hard part is celebrating his life and not just rambling about his death. Gonna get me some extra credit in speech class..

You know, he was a war hero? He led a remarkable life. It's a shame people only remember his affair with Monroe, and his assassination.

reply to post by Grifter42


The Doco. I saw was pretty compelling. The Sicilian mafia recruited three overseas assassins. One was in the Book depository two were on the grassy knoll. Four shots were fired. Officer Tippet went to Oswald's house to bump him as the patsy, but Oswald knew the score and got him first. The Assassins on the Knoll were seen by a deaf and dumb man, one was dressed as a policeman the other as a railway worker, when he went to the police they offered him money to clear off. They were also seen by an army recruit, they told him to leave the area. The two have never met and the story is the same. The bullet fired from the knoll went so close to his ear he assumed the position. A lady who filmed the assassination could see what was happening on the knoll, and had movie footage, of the shooter in the police uniform her film was confiscated by the FBI and was "Lost" The Assassins one of whom always used dum dum bullets, then went to a safe house and they left via Canada, they were paid in heroin in Argentina, it looks like Sam Giancana was involved. Then Oswald who was supposed to have been shot resisting arrest, had to be killed because he knew to many names. Same with Giancana, and all the others that left this life. RFK. had to be bumped or it would have been the same administration, If its not a conspiracy its certainly smells like one.www.thirdworldtraveler.com...

Grifter42
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I'm writing a commemorative speech about him. The hard part is celebrating his life and not just rambling about his death. Gonna get me some extra credit in speech class..

You know, he was a war hero? He led a remarkable life. It's a shame people only remember his affair with Monroe, and his assassination.

I like your approach! Hopefully it will touch on his resistance to Vietnam and his willingness to achieve diplomatic parity with Russia and such.

We could really use a man like that today, eh?

Astonishing guest list at the prior night private party at Murchison's. I'm amazed that more wasn't made of it through the years.

One thing that just keeps gnawing at me was LBJ's ability to avoid prison, starting with the Box 13 scandal in '48. That we had a functioning socio/psychopath that actually became president is beyond unreal. He was pivotal in the assassination.

So many butt-hurt ego/megalomaniac planners like Alan Dulles, the mafia pissed off at RFK, and the bogus"red menace". I remember as a kid hearing about "those f***in' commies", how they were going to come invade us and make us work in the gulag. Today, it's "the war on terror".

I'm about halfway through The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ and I'm just speechless. Going to read Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, America's Invisible Government, and the Hidden History of the Last Fifty Years next.

I don't think I can function, there's absolutely no point in listening to 99% of the current crop of politicians and news networks on the planet. I feel as though I've been given a big shot of numb.

The Shadow Government lead by LBJ and other top folks in cooperation with CIA and mobsters allegedly orchestrated the JFK assassination plans. E. Howard Hunt, among others, claim “Oswald” was a patsy.
truthalliance.net...
theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com...

The real Oswald with brown eyes allegedly “defected” to the Soviet Union, then taken into custody by the russians, brutally interrogated and later killed. The russians supposedly then sent a “Oswald” look alike to the United States, but shorter height, thinner hair, blue eyes, english speaking with eastern european accent. One of the mistakes this “Oswald” supposedly made was that he wrote in his paper that he lived in New Orleans in the state of Texas.
www.abovetopsecret.com...&mem=

James Files (former Sutton, allegedly served in the U.S. Army, marksman) testified he was the Grassy Knoll man who fired the fatal headshot, jfkmurdersolved.com...

From the confession of James Files 1994: "When I got to the point where I thought it would be the last field of fire, I had zeroed in to the left side of the head there that I had because if I wait any longer then Jacqueline Kennedy would have been in the line of fire and I had been instructed for nothing to happen to her and at that moment I figured this is my last chance for a shot and he had still not been hit in the head. So, as I fired that round, Mr. Nicoletti and I fired approximately at the same time as the head started forward then it went backward. I would have to say that his shell struck approximately 1000th of a second ahead of mine maybe but that what's started pushing the head forward which caused me to miss from the left eye and I came in on the left side of the temple."

From the confession of James Files 2003:

J - where were you aiming?

JF - Oh, I was aiming for his right eye, which to me is the left side of his head looking head on. But for him it would be his right eye, and when I pulled the trigger, and I'm right in on it, and it's almost like looking 6 feet away through the scope. As I squeezed, take off my round, his head moved forward, I missed and I come in right along the temple. Just right behind the eye.

J - Here or in the hairline?

JF - Well, I'm not sure, you know I can't see the penetration, I know I hit him right here (pointing at temple). I know I hit behind the eye. Somewhere within a half inch diameter right there (pointing again).

W - So there were actually two shots almost simultaneously?

J - You think he got hit as you squeezed?

JF - What I believe is this : ….. And I got my readings as a marksman, I'm a good shooter, always was, I'm not bragging on my stuff, don't get me wrong, but that's what got me my start with David Phillips. Because of something that I did in the service, and I made a mark there and it's on record and it's recorded, for headshots, for what I did, and the things that I did. But anyway, to make a long story short, as I am preparing to squeeze off my round, Kennedy's head moved forward, just as I squeezed. It was already in process, the head started forward. To me … what I believe is, … and I did not see, let me clear the fact now, I never saw Mr. Nicoletti shoot Kennedy, but I know he was the man in the Daltex building, the man supposed to be doing the shooting. Therefore the head started forward and as far as I am concerned Mr Nicoletti hit him at that point. As I squeezed off my round, the head started forward, I hit it and blew the head backwards.

CornShucker
JFK came from a life of luxury and opportunity while Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig was a grade school dropout who'd had to learn to survive on his own and get his education through daily life.

Yes he came from a life of luxury, and JFK allegedly said that he suffered a migraine if he didn't have a girl every day, and according to rumors, JFK also had a relationship with Marilyn Monroe. www.dailymail.co.uk...

Grifter42
He led a remarkable life. It's a shame people only remember his affair with Monroe, and his assassination.

www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...
greyfalcon.us...
www.examiner.com...

So I just finished the speech... I read it to my friends, and they thought it was very touching.
I wish I could post it here, but it's got to go on Turn-it-in, that website that checks for plagiarizing.

After spending three hours at the library working on it, I don't want her to think I'm some lousy plagiarist. Writing is about the only thing I do well.

While I can't share the speech, I can share something that was very intriguing at the library.

There was a book there written in 1959 titled "John Kennedy: A Political Profile". In smudged, aged pencil writing on the second page of the book with all the publisher information was the name J.F. Kennedy.

You don't think it could possibly be real, could it?

Anyone have a sample of JFK's non-cursive handwriting? All I can find is cursive. But this was written in print.

I believe JFK signing Executive Order 11110 led to his assassination. This speech upset the wrong people no doubt:

It was likely the mafia that shot him, but there were a lot of people involved. The CIA, Secret Service, Mafia, Bankers to fund the whole thing... Kennedy had a lot of enemies, as most reformers do.

Oswald was involved, he knew what was going to happen and it seems like he knew something would possibly happen to him, but I don't think he shot Kennedy.

That meeting of 20 people the night before including multiple future presidents and other power players is just too suspicious.

I will say this, I'm 100% convinced Bush Sr was involved. He helped kill JFK, he tried to kill Reagan, had close ties to 9/11, and his son won two extremely suspicious elections. That man is pure evil.