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I'm sorry but that's just ridiculous. "I can't speak to people or eat food unless my dog is here"...? That's what you're saying? If that's the case, I don't think he's going to last very long here in reality. I take it, of course, that when the dog dies the man will obviously cease to function entirely since every aspect of his functionality is dependent on the dog's presence?
So say that a restaurant you frequented had a sign on it that said "No perfumes or body sprays", so you went there all of the time. Now say someone walked in with a harsh cologne or perfume and the law said that they cannot be denied service because the perfume gives them confidence. You would ask to be moved? What if it was still bothering you? What if you worked there? Would you have to claim "unsafe working conditions"? Would your employer have to pay you to sit in the back until they were gone?
I'm sorry but that's just ridiculous.
The poor war veteran, they won't allow him to bring his pointless service dog into the restaurant. Unless the person is blind that uses a real service dog, i wouldn't let them in if i owned the restaurant.
How do Military people who don't see any ground combat get PTSD. All it looks like to me is someone milking the system that doesn't want to work. Let me go get a pointless service dog and act like i need him to receive more benefits from the government.
It's not sad, it's true.
Originally posted by theboarman
Originally posted by Char-Lee
reply to post by LightOrange
So say that a restaurant you frequented had a sign on it that said "No perfumes or body sprays", so you went there all of the time. Now say someone walked in with a harsh cologne or perfume and the law said that they cannot be denied service because the perfume gives them confidence. You would ask to be moved?
Yes I would ask to be moved, I doubt anyone could pollute the whole place.
I am allergic very severely to cigarettes and they used to allow smoking so i know how to handle what is MY problem.
i believe you are one of those people that if you dont like something you say you are alergic.
could be wrong but i doubt it
Originally posted by Krakatoa
Originally posted by votan
reply to post by HomerinNC
well he doesn't have to let him in.. but I don't think people take too kind to the mistreatment of disabled people especially vets.
I think word of mouth will destroy it since quite a few of his patrons probably have disabled family members or service men/women.
allyou have to do is sit back and watch him burnedit on 28-8-2013 by votan because: (no reason given)
On the contrary, he DOES have to let him in according to Federal ADA laws. He cannot turn him away based upon his service dog. However, he can turn him away if he is in any other way disruptive or will affect his business in a negative manner. But not because of his disability or related service animal.
Like it or not, that is the LAW.
PTSD Dogs are trained to:
Assistance in a medical crisis Provide treatment related assistance
Assistance in coping with emotional overload Perform security enhancement tasks
A Specially Trained PTSD Dog can provide a sense of security, calming effects, and physical exercise that can make a positive difference in the life of those that suffer with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
Like all assistance dogs, a psychiatric service dog is individually trained to do work or perform tasks that mitigate their handler's disability. Training may include providing environmental assessment (in such cases as paranoia or hallucinations), signaling behaviors (such as interrupting repetitive or injurious behavior reminding the handler to take medication, retrieving objects and guiding the handler from stressful situations.
Originally posted by Krakatoa
Originally posted by Bleeeeep
Here's a hypothetical question for you all:
What if the restaurant owner suffers an anxiety disorder/ptsd that was caused by a dog? He obviously has some mental issue with dogs, so it's not out of the question, right?
Well if true, then what? Should the store owner be forced to work in a stressful environment? Who gets to choose? You help the serviceman by giving him a dog, why not help the store owner by removing dogs from his presence?
-just food for thought.
All hypothetical, and would end up being decided in court. That's how it supposed to work in cases of conflict such as your hypothetical. But this is not a hypothetical situation, so your point is moot in this context and topic.
well federal law shouldn't tell someone to do such things.
Originally posted by InhaleExhale
reply to post by votan
well federal law shouldn't tell someone to do such things.
I agree a 100% but that is something for another thread.
I hate it that laws tell me I cannot dig deeper than a certain depth without a permit on my own land, build on my own land with out permission.
That is one big rant thread where many can let of some steam on the boundaries that governments set for us to stay in and the punishments when wondering outside of those boundaries.
Originally posted by HomerinNC
reply to post by LogicalRazor
Spoken like a true wannabe. I doubt you've EVER been in the service with the attitude you carry for other veterans
Originally posted by votan
Originally posted by InhaleExhale
reply to post by votan
well federal law shouldn't tell someone to do such things.
I agree a 100% but that is something for another thread.
I hate it that laws tell me I cannot dig deeper than a certain depth without a permit on my own land, build on my own land with out permission.
That is one big rant thread where many can let of some steam on the boundaries that governments set for us to stay in and the punishments when wondering outside of those boundaries.
exactly... we can't pick and choose what the government can or cannot tell us to do.. sometimes that includes some questionable things.
Yes but if people had a lick of compassion and sense, the two would quietly talk, the owner would explain his fear of dogs and the dog owner would probably volunteer to go elsewhere as they clearly understand how such issues feels. Even in the current case, if the owner would have stepped quietly aside with the man and explained himself there would have been an end to the problem, they would have talked no name calling and stupid behavior.
You dont have to butt hurt over the military. No one is forcing you to participate. BUT considering this is a thread about a DISABLED VETERAN I suggest you deal with it or quit.