Nick Pope : "if you take away the base of the pyramid, the top falls down."

reply to post by Dustytoad

Originally posted by Dustytoad
No.

The economy is going down because there are not enough jobs for 300,000,000 people. We don't need any more base employees. We don't need more food here when 30% is wasted. You might be too focused on money, but I am looking at raw power which is their currency.

Hm?
I didn't say that you need more base employees, or food... and, if you read my second post, you'll see that I wasn't talking about money either.

Originally posted by Dustytoad
When energy is being leaked back down to the base because of welfare then this is not the optimum pyramid.

I agree, but didn't say anything about that either.
Are you sure your reply was meant for me?

Originally posted by Dustytoad
What new jobs will you invent for all these unskilled people like myself?

None. Why should I? That's YOUR job, not mine.

What I WAS saying is that the pyramid doesn't work anymore, as soon as the system does more harm than good to the people at the bottom, and doesn't allow them to thrive upwards anymore, because in this case the masses will topple the system sooner or later.

I still stand to that statement.

*My native language is German btw, so maybe this is a tranlational issue? Can't find it though.

Originally posted by BellaSabre

So OP, a little more studying for you, please.
. . .
Seriously, read some real books by people who live in the real world. It might help you.

So, I'm quite curious . . . well
[color=6699FF]just how many of the following real world quotes--THEIR OWN WORDS--by our 'fearless' leaders

have you studied?


twoday.net...


twga...

You might particularly note

Jacques Cousteau's #129 . . . and former SECDEF during the Viet Nam war--Robert McNamara who "ONLY" managed to kill of 50,000 young, bright American mostly men.

129."It's terrible to have to say this. World population must be stabilized and to do that we must eliminate 350,000 people per day" Jacques-Yves Cousteau, oceanographer and humanist, The UNESCO Courier, Nov. 1991, page 13
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130."The commitment of government to deal with the population issue is of course essential...There are many ways to make the death rate Increase." Robert McNamara, Secretary of Defense, New Solidarity, March 30, 1981
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131.The First and Second World Wars were wars designed to kill millions were not successful enough hence the new methods outlined in the Global 2000 Report...The world is populated with too many redundant people who must not be allowed to procreate and consume scarce natural resources...The Committee of 300 (Illuminati) commissioned Cyrus Vance to write a paper on this subject of how to bring about such genocide. The paper was produced under the title 'Global 2000 Report' and was accepted and approved for action by former President James Earl Carter, and Edwin Muskie, then Secretary of States, for and on behalf of the US Government." Dr. John Coleman, former intelligence agent of British MI6, from his report, Global 2000: A Blueprint For Global Genocide, written in 1992 concerning the depopulation agenda of the Club of Rome

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132."Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." Henry Kissinger, quoted by Bob Woodward in The Final Days, 1976
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133."The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." Henry Kissinger

That Kissinger's suuuuuch a sweetie!

Such leaders seem to glory in strutting around exalting in the milk of evil by the quart in every vein.

So, please, let us know . . .

How many of the 139 or so quotes have you even read?

Just because one may be paranoid
Is NO insurance that
THEY are NOT out to get YOU.
.

Originally posted by tracehd1

I wasn't impressed with him then and still am not! Pope believes in UFO's but not chemtrails (?) lol there's just toooo much proof that if anything they 're seeding clouds. Professional ex-military/weather men have confirmed. Also... There's just to much out there not to believe.

If you care, please use the google. Cloud seeding is very, very real. It's been going on for decades. It is the process of taking a cloud that already exists and dispersing silver iodide into it in hopes of producing rain. You can get as much information on that as you would like.

Chemtrails however, are a hoax made up to drain lazy people of their money. If the people weren't lazy, they would use that Google machine to learn a tiny bit about weather, aviation, and how they mix together.

So in conclusion, don't be afraid to try to learn a bit about what you think you fear. It might make you not so afraid of clouds.

reply to post by network dude


I've been agnostic for a long time on chemtrails.

Not as much any more.

Too much research has captured too much fallout with too many uglies of micro and nano sized particles not remotely healthy for humans and other living things.

Denial is not a good survival habit.

Originally posted by BO XIAN

Denial is not a good survival habit.

Refusing to understand science is a bit worse in my eyes. Once the nature of contrails is understood, the whole chemtrail argument becomes incredibly laughable. But don't let me spoil a good conspiracy. Enjoy the fear of clouds if you must. I'll stick to worrying about being eaten by sharks in tornadoes.

reply to post by gosseyn


I haven't been following the Nick Pope thread.

..but I have to agree with you. Current population growth is unsustainable and the "elites" know this. Population control as an agenda is no secret. It's been mentioned by folks like Bill Gates, Al Gore and Hillary Clinton to name a few.

Here's a link to a site that lists 30 population control quotes from elitist type folks:

30 Population Control Quotes That Show That The Elite Truly Believe That Humans Are A Plague Upon The Earth


I don't know who Nick Pope is but he sounds like a shill... it's obvious from the statement above that if he's not a shill, he's extremely naive.

ETA - and his statement about chem trails and his hypothesis that they aren't effective when released at higher altitudes is just guess work on his part. Is this guy supposed to be an authority or expert on something?

reply to post by ColCurious


Machines and killing the populous, hogwash. You guys don't understand the nature of power. That is what the five families crave. Nothing else matters, nothing. It is their drug, their life blood, they fight for it amongst themselves. They need the minions, all of us.

They don't want to kill us, just control us. As far as Chemtrails it is not about spreading stuff on us but more like cloud seading. It comes back in the forum of rain and hail etc.

Anyway, change the way you think, they need us, and don't think they can get what they want with machines, they can't.

The Bot

reply to post by dlbott

Originally posted by dlbott
reply to post by ColCurious

 

Anyway, change the way you think, they need us, and don't think they can get what they want with machines, they can't.

What the hell? I didn't say any of that either!!!

Why would I think "they can get what they want with machines"???

I never said anything like that!

reply to post by gosseyn


is it anything like-if you take away a foundation from a house-the house will fall down?

Chemtrails aren't for the ground.... it's for the sky....

Who will manufacture and maintain the robots, other robots?

nice thread, OP.

read this:

www.educate-yourself.org...

reply to post by ColCurious


"What I WAS saying is that the pyramid doesn't work anymore, as soon as the system does more harm than good to the people at the bottom, and doesn't allow them to thrive upwards anymore, because in this case the masses will topple the system sooner or later."

Not if they're unarmed, unfed, diseased and jobless... Even if 100,000,000 Americans try to take out it's own Military Industrial Complex as it stands now it could NOT be taken down if TPTB and their M-I-C are MAD enough to stay and fight... To me, the odds of winning this hypothetical war increase daily in favour of the authorities and their Terminator SkyNet Project growth.

We have to change the hearts and minds of the M.I.Complex (which is spread between the base and flying tip)... Whistleblowers give me hope - Blowhard Conservatives make me worry - but it would be 'nice' if they could surround all military bases, Washington, Wall Street etc. and take the f*****s out... GET REAL, 'corrupt' (well CURE, more like) The M-I-C until it dissintegrates... Never gonna happen, they'll just hire Chinese or Ruskie soldiers to fight your MUTINEER ASSES...

reply to post by RageAgainstFascism

Elites only have power because humanity plays by the rules of their money structured game.

I am personally wondering if chemtrails can change weather but.......as for the rich not wanting to kill us and want us strong and healthy.....umm...no. False.

Not trying to bash Nick at all, but is he that disconnected with the reality of 99% of people? We are bombarded with toxins everywhere we go. Our media fills our heads with complete nonsense. Everything we eat is garbage not even real food. Our wages make do paycheck to paycheck.

Wake up call. The government/rich people ARE NOT ON OUR SIDE.

Originally posted by SuicideKing33
I am personally wondering if chemtrails can change weather but.......as for the rich not wanting to kill us and want us strong and healthy.....umm...no. False.

Not trying to bash Nick at all, but is he that disconnected with the reality of 99% of people? We are bombarded with toxins everywhere we go. Our media fills our heads with complete nonsense. Everything we eat is garbage not even real food. Our wages make do paycheck to paycheck.

Wake up call. The government/rich people ARE NOT ON OUR SIDE.

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

It still boggles my mind that UNlobotomized folks still have any question or puzzlement, much less ignorance, about this sort of issue.

The evidence is spread far and wide in significant depth.

I guesstimate that it's only the willfully blind who are still clueless on such scores.

Which is not a good survival habit.

The current state was predicted with a basic but fairly clear outline 2,000 years ago.

The satanic global government has existed for many decades--some say 400 years at least . . . and is on the brink of forcing itself overtly onto the world stage in firm iron fisted death grip !CONTROL!

The early complicit stooges and those tooooo ignorant or willfully blind along with those hostile to such will all be earliest to the death camps etc. History has demonstrated that repeatedly.

imho, God alone offers the least bit of refuge, protection, provision against such horrific comprehensive evils.

It is, after all, at its foundational levels and in its goals a primarily SPIRITUAL WARFARE.

It's just that Lucifer also loves to spill the blood of those on the other side first and all humans 2nd. It's his hobby, passion, nature, goal, and the only way he can get back at God at all for kicking him out of Heaven.

Originally posted by ColCurious
What I WAS saying is that the pyramid doesn't work anymore, as soon as the system does more harm than good to the people at the bottom, and doesn't allow them to thrive upwards anymore, because in this case the masses will topple the system sooner or later.

I still stand to that statement.

*My native language is German btw, so maybe this is a tranlational issue? Can't find it though.

edit on 29-8-2013 by ColCurious because: (no reason given)

So you were agreeing with me but you have the idea that the flow trickles down instead of trickles up..

In any case we are agreeing about the fundamental problem that people can no longer support enough worth for society on a base level. This makes these people worthless in a societal or economic standpoint minuse their inate humanness they are unneeded in the hive.

You may have too big a perception of the base since you are German and forget your own history. The base is easily stupid and movable as a result. This is the part I wanted you to see.

Still the population of the USA is too much for the pyramid structure when almost the majority are on welfare checks... This is NOT a Pyramid it's a Pancake.

You seem naive in what America is doing. They are not going to keep the economy going..

I am one (of many) that didnt bother with Mr. Pope PR stunt here in ATS.

Today, I skimmed through the 38 pages of that thread just to read Mr. Pope replies (yes, all 38 pages!)

It was pretty obvious to me that that thread would be a waist of time:

Too many people asking/too many questions;
Mr. Pope, as he constantly reminded, would abide by its secrecy oath (Once in the intelligence community you will never get off), so he wouldnt be saying nothing that we already dont know;
I got the impression he made a shy manouvre to sell its books;
Any relevant information was embedded on ambigous phraseology (I saved some answers to try decipher its meaning)

To cut a long story short (as Mr. Pope would say) I think that Mr. Pope remark about social organization says it all.
It clearly exposes his mind set and what he came to do here in ATS - Public Relations operation.
However it is always nice to have acess to such hi-profile characters and their availability to perform such PR stunts.

On general terms, I agree that TPTB are running a well defined and stepped plan to get rid of the vast majority of the world population.
In time the labour force will be replaced by advanced cybernetics humanoids (just imagined extremely advanced robots with AI), so the base of the pyramid wont be needed.

As consumers we wont be needed also. The future society will only produce goods on a scale that can be absorbed by the remaining humans. That will keep the environmental footprint controled and the need for raw materials.

To Bo Xian:
I dont have the Christian insight that you have, but I think that you may have some point (sort of a religious war).
There might be some "malevolous" beings out there, but I think that there are also good ones! (And we might found some help from them).

This month Germany tried to get some of its gold reserves deposited in the US but the Fed refused.
Take a look at the global economy today, money has been draining out of the ordinary people. In the past 5 years wealth has been concentrated on a few countries/people, why?
They seem to be running againts time as if expecting some life extinction event worldwide (therefore those seeds vaults in Norway, US and elsewhere?)

People are getting poorer day-by-day (loosing their jobs, the proliferation of low wages and short-time, short-skilled jobs, loosig their homes) no only in the US, but also in Europe. As if some sort of "Chinafication" of world´s labour force was being carried.

Huxley´s Brave New World is Economic globalization.

reply to post by Dustytoad

Originally posted by Dustytoad
So you were agreeing with me but you have the idea that the flow trickles down instead of trickles up..

I'd say the flow is sucked up like blood (via taxes / overregulation / centralism) and even dry in some cases and places.

Originally posted by Dustytoad
In any case we are agreeing about the fundamental problem that people can no longer support enough worth for society on a base level. This makes these people worthless in a societal or economic standpoint minuse their inate humanness they are unneeded in the hive.

Yes, I agree you can put it that way.
All I'm saying is that it is also true the other way around...

If the people can't thrive in this economic system anymore, then this also makes the system worthless for the people from a societal / economic standpoint.
In this case the people have no choice at one point but to ask themselves, what good is it, and why keep it?

Originally posted by Dustytoad
You may have too big a perception of the base since you are German and forget your own history. The base is easily stupid and movable as a result. This is the part I wanted you to see.

Still the population of the USA is too much for the pyramid structure when almost the majority are on welfare checks... This is NOT a Pyramid it's a Pancake.

You seem naive in what America is doing. They are not going to keep the economy going..

I assure you, I haven't forgotten our history.

But I HAVE TO believe that the people, ALL people including U.S. citizens, have learned from our history... because otherwise all hope is lost.