An image of Comet Ison or is it really a comet?

reply to post by nataylor


Why did NASA come up with a V FILTER explanation..if it could have been explained as this.

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by Bicent76
there was people saying at one time ISON, had two tails.. This is a very odd picture, has anyone from NASA, explained what the hell this is?

NASA dont have to explain jack #t about that.
Two tails (gas, and dust) is a fundamental basic part of cometary science that you'll find explained in "Basic comets for complete idiots, Volume 1".

Comets actually have two tails -- a dust tail and a plasma (ionized gas) tail.

Oh, look, it turns out that NASA actually do explain it, and you'd know this if you did a google search.

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READ THE END NOTE

next time do not be so quick to judge, it makes you look like an idiot...



read the end notes... I am not going to be your teacher...

Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
I was just showing that they took clear, color photos, FROM HUBBLE.

Impossible.
Hubble telescope doesnt have a color camera.

The only way to get a color "image" is to take separate images at separate wavelengths, and then combine them later in post processing.

Which is exactly the same as what they did with comet ISON.

Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
reply to post by nataylor

 

Why did NASA come up with a V FILTER explanation..if it could have been explained as this.

I don't think you understand what they wrote. They talk about a V-band filter. That's a type of filter that only lets through specific wavelengths of light. You can also have B, G, R, etc. filters. The specific wavelengths filtered for each type can be found here. A "V filter" isn't something that makes light form a V shape.

My explanation compliments theirs. They explain that the image is made up of 5 exposures with various filters over 2,300 seconds. I explain that Hubble's motion around the Earth produces the apparent shape.

Originally posted by AlchemistSwami
reply to post by Baddogma

 

The "V" faces the "tail" of the "comet" in the July 17th picture, but if you look at the images from June 27th images and zoom in on that one, and darken, no "V" anomaly there...... interesting thread none the less. Wasn't there a post recently on ATS that ISON is coming by 666 years after a comet that allegedly caused a plague in the past?

Yes I forget the name of the comet but what is more interesting were all the accounts of ufo's and even that some strange mist would come out of them covering the people. There are many written accounts and artist renditions of ufo's during that period. Some conjecture is they caused the plague, others that they were observing it.

The Bot

this is awesome,,, i really cant wait until november. cant wait to see it and what it may be

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Yes.Let's wait november,the true is near .

reply to post by Yummy Freelunch

Why did NASA come up with a V FILTER explanation..if it could have been explained as this.

They have explained this you just don't seem to understand it.

reply to post by nataylor


Beautiful explanation... kudos. Yes! That's what I was struggling to recap, so thanks for the wonderful illustration that was truly worth however many words are in this thread! (note referring nathantaylor's illustration of the path of ISON overlay with the actual images).

So alpha1, Tsurfer2000 and you brought forth the truth ... which is always a great thing... even though it spoils the fun, but then there's enough truly odd things out there to keep us busy for several lifetimes.

I admit I was flummoxed for a bit up to page 9 or so... which is always an adrenaline rush. Great thread.

reply to post by Yummy Freelunch

My kitty cat friend, its weird that, that Phage guy hasnt showed up at all? Usually hes all over this stuff like flies on *ughumm*.

Must be pretty good stuff if he avoided this conversation?

Its 18 pages into this thread; I have skimmed through every page, and havent seen a complete analysis or justified answer to the anomoly shown. Or maybe I missed it.. Im on vacation, so Im a bit 'ats-lazy' this week

Look forward to a complete 'debunk' on this photo, if not, Santa is coming to town

(And by santa, I obviously mean big ass mothership and aliens) woooh!

This is very strange. It would be interesting to view it in infrared. ~$heopleNation

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by Bicent76
there was people saying at one time ISON, had two tails.. This is a very odd picture, has anyone from NASA, explained what the hell this is?

NASA dont have to explain jack #t about that.
Two tails (gas, and dust) is a fundamental basic part of cometary science that you'll find explained in "Basic comets for complete idiots, Volume 1".

Comets actually have two tails -- a dust tail and a plasma (ionized gas) tail.

Oh, look, it turns out that NASA actually do explain it, and you'd know this if you did a google search.

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wow...its not neccesary to be a jerk.. Not everyone follows 'cometary science' or NASA. And not eveyrone really gives a hoot

Leave your attitude at the door next time

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So Tsurfer2000 and you brought forth the truth ... which is always a great thing... even though it spoils the fun, but then there's enough truly odd things out there to keep us busy for several lifetimes. I admit I was flummoxed for a bit up to page 9 or so... which is always fun. Great thread. signature:

Alfa1 actually posted all the evidence that was needed on page 4.

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
Yes if you watch the video I posted from ThorNews..he even says that it was amateurs that RE found ISON..and the professionals are strangely silent on it..they're the ones that wanted everyone to jump on the ISON bandwagon and everyone take pictures of it..where the heck are THEY now?

Usually the conspiracy arises because "the authorities" are in control of all the information, and the public have to take their word for it.

Are you seriously turning this around and claiming its a conspiracy because backyard astronomers, the public, are looking at something (and finding no spaceships) more than you think "the authorities" are doing????

Is it the height of irony or what that posters will come on one of the web's most famous conspiracy sites and express mock outrage/be offended at people postulating conspiracy theories? Disagree, sure, but if conspiracy theories seem to bother you, as they often seemed to have done so in the past, I suggest spending your countless online hours on some other site that doesn't vex you so much.

Lets get some clarity shall we?


The Program 13229 - Hubble Heritage - July 16, 2013 (notice that is release date not photo date) took a series photos on this page on April 30, 2013.

Of these photos I pulled a few examples. The first is the original image and the second is darkened 3 clicks on the darken button (I cannot get more accurate than that because I am using their viewer...) By darkening them you see the object a little more defined than a large white blob. Notice how in the bottom images the blob is almost crescent shaped. 433 Eros has this shape...

These are image hlsp_ison_hst_wfc3_130430e_f606w_v1 F606W denotes a (Green Filter)


These are image hlsp_ison_hst_wfc3_130430_f814w_v1 F814W denotes a (Red Filter)


These are image hlsp_ison_hst_wfc3_130430_f606w_v1 F606W denotes a (Green Filter)


These are image hlsp_ison_hst_wfc3_130430_f606w-f814w_v1 F814W denotes a (Red Filter)



These are SINGLE exposures and because they are taken with different filters when combined will generate a color image. Multiple images can then be stacked (a process much like it sounds) to create more clarity or definition. Most good Astronomers and amateurs stack multiple images but end up with 1 images of an object not multiple ones as it defeats the purpose unless you are trying to define it's movement!

Those trying to claim parallax please explain to me why it shows up in one image and not the subsequent ones?

Either the object is very odd shaped or has started to disintegrate. If however it is just odd shaped I am hopping it is much like 433 Eros! I am excited to see what this thing looks like!

you know this is not the only weird Hubble image..





















hubblesite.org...

so let me ask this..

If the way this comet looks is just the way Hubble takes pictures, why does it not do it to all the other comet pictures of the past?

I am not trying to fuel the paranoid, I am just trying to compare this image with others...

I do not see anything else out there like this...

reply to post by abeverage

Those trying to claim parallax please explain to me why it shows up in one image and not the subsequent ones?

Again, parallax has nothing to do with that part of the equation.

You can say that the exposures are stacked later but you are obviously looking at the progressing stages of the same complete picture.

Are there any independent photo not supplied by government space agencies that show the same?

I ask because the May disclosure project of 2001, keeps popping into my head,

'And don't forget the aliens, that will be the last card they play, and it will be a lie'

Fun days here on ATS as of late.

Cirque

Originally posted by NeoParadigm
reply to post by abeverage

 

Those trying to claim parallax please explain to me why it shows up in one image and not the subsequent ones?

Again, parallax has nothing to do with that part of the equation.

You can say that the exposures are stacked later but you are obviously looking at the progressing stages of the same complete picture.

I created this image of Jupiter and its 2 moons on a small telescope using multiple exposures and stacking software.


Prove to me that those are progressive stages of the same photo. They are labeled differently and appear differently. Stacking is a post process and these are RAW images. You cited an example earlier with light painting long exposure so show me how this is progressive.

Originally posted by Bicent76
you know this is not the only weird Hubble image..





















hubblesite.org...

so let me ask this..

If the way this comet looks is just the way Hubble takes pictures, why does it not do it to all the other comet pictures of the past?

I am not trying to fuel the paranoid, I am just trying to compare this image with others...

I do not see anything else out there like this...

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Yes, I have mentioned the same point a few times on this thread, I don't care about being right, but would just like the truth for once from Never A Straight Answer.