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Pro-Morsi or Anti-Morsi? That is the question, and a big one.....

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posted on Aug, 17 2013 @ 01:16 PM
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This is an interesting headline to find. It really is.

Thousands protest in Nazareth in solidarity with Morsi

From the story:


Around 4,000 people protested in the northern Israeli Arab city Nazareth on Saturday in a show of support for ousted Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi and Muslim Brotherhood. The northern faction of the Islamic Movement in Israel organized the protest, the third organized since Morsi was ousted on June 30.
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Now another protest in the West Bank isn't usually something to get excited or even interested by. This one however? Well, lets put this into a bit of context so you see why it caused me to do a full double take. Here are a few other headlines from very recently and also, out of the West Bank.

Fatah calls on Palestinians to overthrow Hamas in wake of Morsi's fall

From this story:


Abbas praised the Egyptian army and its commanders for preserving the country’s security and preventing it from slipping toward the abyss.

Tayeb Abdel Rahim, a top aide to Abbas, saluted the Egyptian army for the “wonderful achievement.”

Referring to Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood, Abdel Rahim hailed the Egyptian army and people for refusing to be intimidated by those who “sow sedition, civil war and sectarianism.”

Jamal Nazzal, a senior Fatah representative, called on Palestinians to overthrow Hamas in the wake of the events in Egypt.
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So which is it? I wonder..... We won't be hearing much out of Gaza, I'm afraid. Hamas doesn't tolerate press that doesn't follow their presentation and talking points..


Authorities in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip on Thursday closed local offices of Al Arabiya TV and Palestinian news agency Maan for alleged “false” reporting of Hamas help for Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood.

“The attorney general decided to close down Al Arabiya and Maan offices in Gaza for distributing false news regarding the smear campaign against Hamas and Gaza about what’s happening in Egypt,” a Hamas official told AFP.
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I'm thinking that American Politicians look on events like that with envy that turns them as green as grass. If only they could just shut down any media outlet that used questionable sources or reported something the Government didn't like.

The same thing comes up again in another story. This one about Egypt imposing the harshest Gaza border restrictions in recent living memory.


Hamas leaders have been careful not to criticize Egypt’s border clampdown in public, for fear of being accused of meddling in Egypt’s internal affairs. However, Gaza’s top Hamas official, Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, has complained that Egyptian media reports “about Hamas interference in the Egyptian affairs in support of President Mursi are not true.”

Some Egyptian media outlets have described Hamas as a troublemaker aiding Muslim militants in Egypt’s lawless Sinai, next to Gaza. Mursi is believed to have held back on security clampdowns for fear of angering more radical supporters.

Source: Egypt imposes toughest Gaza restrictions in years

So.. Which is it to be, I wonder? Pro or Anti for each faction and sub faction in the region? It seems to be a real toss up and mix for who is coming down with which side and for what reasons.

Time will tell, but the Middle East seems to be as it always has been. As easily understood as an enigma within a puzzle tied up with a Gordian knot. No Alexander around to solve this one, either. Could this really lead to wider conflict? I'm starting to wonder...



posted on Aug, 17 2013 @ 02:03 PM
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I'm starting to wonder, as well. Honestly it will probably require an expert in Middle-East politics to sort this one out, or at least a day or two of time surfing Wikipedia for specifics.

Although you mentioned an Alexander coming in to sort things out, Russia has already started working with the military (which tends to support the Egyptian people over the government) on joint drills, replacing the U.S., which backed out.



posted on Aug, 17 2013 @ 02:20 PM
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You bring up the Russians and that's a good point. I don't even know how I'm supposed to feel about that??? Russia is NO friend and Putin's whole job was catching and either imprisoning or killing my fellow countrymen right up to the end of the Cold War in 1989. I can never forget or even begin to forgive that.

Still... Putin aside..what IS the game here?? Egypt isn't Soviet/Russian oriented and never really has been (Excuse the term..but ask a Gay how Russia feels for freedom, eh? They're looking to America for asylum). So who ARE the players and what is the end game here??

The only two players I feel certain I know the endgame and motives for are the two least important to understand here. Washington and the Muslim Brotherhood. Those two are both so open about it, it doesn't take a degree to figure that out, of course. When the other mystery parties are added though? Oh...I'm getting a migraine with this.



posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 05:55 AM
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And me as well, the power structure or at least the plan seems to be shifting to a different situation than we had in the 2000's - and Russia is not gay friendly, or feminist friendly, either. Those are two issues that I find rather disturbing, however much I get annoyed by living in extremist liberal areas from time to time.

I think something is going on here.
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posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 06:18 AM
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That's not really the question.

The real question is why the hell can't we keep our nose in our own damn business?

The world would be a much better place if we would just let it be.



posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 06:32 AM
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Good points/find S&F the end game? I used to believe we had a road map or the big picture but with some of the things were are hearing it would seem the printers forgot to put an "X" on the map and the big picture turned out to be of the south end of a north bound horse...

The MB IMO always wanted to unite the Arabs under their version of religious fervor and I for one am glad the Egyptian people (14 mil) said they wanted Morsi out...The whole area seems to be at a point where things are going to get sorted out.....Not over night and not easily but sorted to some extent they will be..... so the game can be reset to start all over again..

I too wonder who is pulling the strings on some of this stuff...but as you and I know the usual players are around...we just don't know who has the most stroke as of yet.



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