A concept (Freemasons and "Satan")

reply to post by KSigMason


The rest aside, you know exactly which thread I was talking about. It was on ATS.

"That sounds more accurate than salvation based on some dumb belief in something."

Either explain your participation in that thread or I will assume you were partaking in a psychological experiment. I have a hard time believing you fell for it.

Sin is evil, btw.

reply to post by FreeWillAnomaly

Don't blame others for you violating the T&C.

reply to post by FreeWillAnomaly

Then post a hyperlink to this "experiment".

FreeWillAnomaly
reply to post by KSigMason

 

The rest aside, you know exactly which thread I was talking about. It was on ATS.

"That sounds more accurate than salvation based on some dumb belief in something."

Either explain your participation in that thread or I will assume you were partaking in a psychological experiment. I have a hard time believing you fell for it.

Sin is evil, btw.

edit on 10-2-2014 by FreeWillAnomaly because: (no reason given)

I would also love to see this link to the psychological experiment Ksigmason took part in. To be honest you are kind of sounding like a troll and not acting very Christian.

reply to post by FreeWillAnomaly


Irony, a poster with no avitar complaining about others avitars being lame.

KSigMason
reply to post by FreeWillAnomaly

 

Don't blame others for you violating the T&C.

reply to post by FreeWillAnomaly

 

Then post a hyperlink to this "experiment".

I didn't violate T & C.


I am not going to post a hyperlink because I would have to dig it up. You can be honest or choose not to. Since you are not being open and honest, I will have to assume that you knew what it was.

nancyliedersdeaddog

FreeWillAnomaly
reply to post by KSigMason

 

The rest aside, you know exactly which thread I was talking about. It was on ATS.

"That sounds more accurate than salvation based on some dumb belief in something."

Either explain your participation in that thread or I will assume you were partaking in a psychological experiment. I have a hard time believing you fell for it.

Sin is evil, btw.

edit on 10-2-2014 by FreeWillAnomaly because: (no reason given)

I would also love to see this link to the psychological experiment Ksigmason took part in. To be honest you are kind of sounding like a troll and not acting very Christian.

edit on 10-2-2014 by nancyliedersdeaddog because: (no reason given)

It is called "the hidden hand" and is a well known thread in this forum. I don't feel like digging it up. It's some guy pretending to be an alien from the illuminati bloodlines and pretending to be a part of the hidden hand (which is real, although not tied to the illuminati). If you really care, go look it up for yourself. Ksigs post is in there. Post the link when you find it. I'm obviously not as interested as you.

nancyliedersdeaddog

FreeWillAnomaly
reply to post by KSigMason

 

The rest aside, you know exactly which thread I was talking about. It was on ATS.

"That sounds more accurate than salvation based on some dumb belief in something."

Either explain your participation in that thread or I will assume you were partaking in a psychological experiment. I have a hard time believing you fell for it.

Sin is evil, btw.

edit on 10-2-2014 by FreeWillAnomaly because: (no reason given)

I would also love to see this link to the psychological experiment Ksigmason took part in. To be honest you are kind of sounding like a troll and not acting very Christian.

edit on 10-2-2014 by nancyliedersdeaddog because: (no reason given)

It is called "the hidden hand" and is a well known thread in this forum. I don't feel like digging it up. It's some guy pretending to be an alien from the illuminati bloodlines and pretending to be a part of the hidden hand (which is real, although not tied to the illuminati). If you really care, go look it up for yourself. Ksigs post is in there. Post the link when you find it. I'm obviously not as interested as you.

reply to post by FreeWillAnomaly

If a post was removed then it was for a violation of the T&C.

Well, you made the accusation so it's up to you to prove it, and I'm going to prove your accusation because you're too lazy.

Since you are not being open and honest, I will have to assume that you knew what it was.

I have been nothing, but open and honest. In fact, you're the one making the accusation and not willing to back it up with proof.

reply to post by KSigMason


I have all the proof I need. See, I was not making an accusation, but instead an observation. I just made another observation.

This was very illustrious of you. Thanks for enlightening me, Solomon. Don't bother purifying your mind and aspiring to righteousness, as this would be of the dark ages.

reply to post by Pinocchio


Avoiding what happened to Hiram?

But the only kind of light that can do that without a change in the design of the structure is the installation of a light that blinds. Is that the light you are talking about? Seems like Pike might have mentioned something about that...something about a light bearer... Oh well, doesn't matter. There is probably a hidden meaning or 3 anyways.

FreeWillAnomaly

nancyliedersdeaddog

FreeWillAnomaly
reply to post by KSigMason

 

The rest aside, you know exactly which thread I was talking about. It was on ATS.

"That sounds more accurate than salvation based on some dumb belief in something."

Either explain your participation in that thread or I will assume you were partaking in a psychological experiment. I have a hard time believing you fell for it.

Sin is evil, btw.

edit on 10-2-2014 by FreeWillAnomaly because: (no reason given)

I would also love to see this link to the psychological experiment Ksigmason took part in. To be honest you are kind of sounding like a troll and not acting very Christian.

edit on 10-2-2014 by nancyliedersdeaddog because: (no reason given)

It is called "the hidden hand" and is a well known thread in this forum. I don't feel like digging it up. It's some guy pretending to be an alien from the illuminati bloodlines and pretending to be a part of the hidden hand (which is real, although not tied to the illuminati). If you really care, go look it up for yourself. Ksigs post is in there. Post the link when you find it. I'm obviously not as interested as you.

Are you talking about this thread -www.abovetopsecret.com... So Ksigs posted a few comments in some nutjobs thread, how is that a big deal? I find it funny that I asked you to post a link to the thread and you got all pissy for no reason, you can't say Ksig was a part of some experiment without having proof to back it up. You were obviously interested or you wouldn't of brought it up in this first place. I along with many other ats members took part in some thread where the guy claimed to be living with 2 humanoid aliens and was about to broadcast it to the world does that mean I was a part of the experiment?

reply to post by FreeWillAnomaly

You did indeed make an accusation here when you said I took part in a "pscychological experiment" with nefarious motivations, but then didn't provide us with the link.

I do try to purify and enrich our mind. Who says I'm not trying to be righteous? I live my life according to my beliefs and Christian faith.

reply to post by FreeWillAnomaly

Well, Pike only pointed out the irony that the Devil/Satan, the "prince of darkness," would be associated with someone known as the "light bearer." Nowhere does Pike state he or the Masonic fraternity as a doctrine worship a being known as "Lucifer". Plus, the Lucifer named in the Bible was a disgraced Babylonian king who prior to St. Jerome's translation was known as "Helal bin Shahar" (Day Star, son of the Morning which literally translates to Lucifer).

reply to post by FreeWillAnomaly


Is there more than one creator of the universe?

I missed your other answer.

reply to post by KSigMason


I didn't say your intentions were "nefarious," because I don't use funny sounding words like "nefarious." I simply made an observation. I am now making more observations.

You did say purifying your mind and attaining righteousness is of the dark ages: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Your inability to be consistent and honest is very annoying.



I don't care about your interpretation of the meaning of lucifer. I am more interested in why you did not dispute the Hiram analogy, because the only light that would stop that from happening again is a light that blinds unless Hiram were willing to share his secrets with everyone. It is claimed that Masonic light is allegorical for God's light, yet God's light does not blind. God uses Satan (the angel of light) to blind. Yes that means God does blind some people, but it is not His own light that he uses to do it. He uses the light of the one who rebelled and is now destined for the pit without question. Do you ascribe to duality? I am still confused as to whether some Masons or all Masons ascribe to duality.

reply to post by nancyliedersdeaddog


I'm not sure if that's the one where Ksig posted that he thinks salvation based on faith in Jesus is dumb. I might look later if he keeps bugging me about it and refusing to be honest.

There have been a few after-discussion posts of the original post where the guy pretending to be from the hidden hand (which is real, btw) delivers a message with the goal of subverting free will and conducting a psychological experiment. Why so many psychological experiments seem to have the intent of the subversion of free will, I will never know. Anyways, I am not sure if that is the one or not.

FreeWillAnomaly

This is the basis of the magic that God forbids. Creating illusions of the mind and creating subjective reality.

It comes down to the question of: are you God or is God God?

Where in the bible does God forbid magic? Source please...

On the contrary, Ephesians 5:5 says: "So try to be like God, because you are his own dear children."

reply to post by Saurus


Be like God as in think like God. Not act like God, and surely not disobey God. The problem of the words "like God" goes back to Genesis when Satan told us we could be "like God" if we ate the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. As the Archangel Michael would say "who is like God?" No, be like God means to be without sin - even sins of the mind.


Anyways, the prohibition on Magic is found throughout the Bible all the way from the OT to Revelations. I am not going to bother posting a passage because you already know that and you probably don't believe the Bible is the Word of God. +1 for dishonesty, though

ETA: Fine, I will post a passage from Revelations. I hope you don't dispute that one, because I can dig up passages forbidding magic all day, but I have a feeling this comes down to you not believing the Bible, because you have been known to play dumb and I highly doubt you are that dumb:

"But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death." Revelation 21:8

reply to post by FreeWillAnomaly


The bible does not forbid magic. That is simply your interpretation.

Likewise, the bible explicitly says that we should try and emulate god. In plain and clear language - unambiguously. It does not specify how and how not to do so. Again, to select ways in which you might think we should try be like God or not is also your interpretation.

FreeWillAnomaly

"But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death." Revelation 21:8

Hmmm... lets see... this verse places the cowardly and murderers in the same boat. So even if I stop practicing magic, I'd still go into a lake of burning sulphur because if I happened to come face to face with a lion, I'd run away...?

No, I have never believed Revelations should be read literally, so you're right, I do dispute that as proof.

Besides, if a Pastor performs a miracle, he is, by definition, doing magic. Oh, but in this case it's open to interpretation, is it?