Should The Department of Homeland Security be Dissolved?

I just read an interesting article which I will provide a link to for you all.
With the resignation of Janet (from another planet) Napolitano ,
there is a major vacuum to be filled. I think I read 15 high profile positions.
Which means exponentially more than that in laymans terms.

While the sky is the limit for the security of a nation,
are there not enough Alphabet Agencies who are fully capable and willing to meet
the 24/7 demands required? Not to mention Local,Regional,and State Law Enforcement.

In other words, was the DHS just another bloated and bureaucratic Government Agency
created with good intentions but in haste?
Was DHS created as a Cash Cow?

Personally, I cannot say. For the Publicly released records might not be a true judge
of the accomplishments of this Agency.

However, the information made available does not allow the Taxpayer Citizen to Judge them at all without giving a
"Benefit of the Doubt" handicap to begin with.

Maybe DHS is a good Idea, and the cost is worth the investment.
Then Again, Maybe it is a Black Hole that we are pouring money into.
That might be difficult to explain to one of the 240,000 employees if so.
I sure as hell wouldn't want to give that presentation.

Here is a Link to the Source Article : www.businessweek.com...

Here are DHS links/PDF's concerning their budget:

www.dhs.gov...
www.dhs.gov...

Food For Thought. Let me know yours, Wildmanimal

edit on 15-7-2013 by Wildmanimal because: Add Content

reply to post by Wildmanimal


Less Intrusive Government.

Thats what we ALL need.

reply to post by sonnny1


That appears to be the General Consensus these days.

Among'st the Taxpaying Public that is.

Only Time will Tell, for this Tale is full of many Mysteries.

Originally posted by Wildmanimal
reply to post by sonnny1

 

That appears to be the General Consensus these days.

Among'st the Taxpaying Public that is.

Well, even criminals would agree!

reply to post by spartaocean


Add a second line for me will ya.
It would be more legitimate that way.

reply to post by sonnny1


So you consider all of the Taxpaying Public to be Criminals?
Or did I misinterpret your reply?
Please remember "One Line posts" are frowned upon by the Mods/Rules here.

reply to post by Wildmanimal




I was just stating criminals too would benefit highly.......

I totally agree with Taxpayers wanting less though. I sure do.

reply to post by Wildmanimal


How the hell can you have an effective police state if you close down the overarching command structure of the police state? That's crazy.

Oh, we'd be far, far, far better off without it. But it's THE key feature of the control grid now. It'll come down when the Empire fails--as they always do....

The Citizens of America IS Homeland Security........... idk why the gov thought they should take that right away from us lol

reply to post by sonnny1


Understood. Maybe I will run it past a few of the Locals.
Get an "off the record" opinion from the boots on the ground.

However, I will also have to perform some research into crime statistics/drug traffic
to calculate the cost effectiveness of the DHS over the past decade.
Then compare it to Crime Statistics for the prior decade before the inception of DHS.

That would be a Winter project for me, as there is no way in hell that i could focus on that
right now. Tragically, NOW is the time to perform these tasks.

Maybe this would be a good Thesis for one of you ATS Students out there.
Someone with the time and determination to make a difference.

P.S. Great Avatar! "Lost Like Tears in Rain"

reply to post by Ex_CT2


Point Taken. However, Maybe the "Police State" Concept has run aground.
Maybe "The Police" themselves do not like the idea.

They just go along acting half heartedly because it is a paying job in a difficult economy.

reply to post by introV


Yes, WE are the Eyes, Ears, Minds,Muscle and Hearts of This Great Nation.
WE do not need "Expensive Babysitters".
Maybe the bar has been set too high, as the prisons and court systems are maxed out and overloaded.
Maybe there are too many prohibitions.
Violent Offenders are one category, Non Violent Offenders are another.
What do I know? I'll tell you what I know. The World is not perfect, nor will it ever be.
But it certainly could be rotating to a higher standard than what is currently promoted.
Thanks for your reply.

Yes.
Dissolve the IRS also.

YES! I couldn't write that big enough. Before we are forced to slaughter them if they are deployed against us.

reply to post by butcherguy

Well that would be another topic.
I will leave that to your skilled hands.

But I sure would like to buy me a side of grain fed beef.
How much would that run these days?

Maybe a couple of sucklings too, I am long overdue for a Pig Roast.

Hot Damn! Nothing better than a Summertime Pig Roast.

Well I would think that is a easy yes.

The bloated department should of not been created in the first place.
They have done no good and have only been a large tick on the back of society.

reply to post by cavtrooper7


Well I don't think the odds would be too good.
240,000 vs. 350,000,000 or there abouts.

Hell, they like their Jobs way too much to even consider such a thing.

Plus, they aren't even considering such a scenario.

That would be WAY TO MUCH WORK. S a v v y ?

Your pretty funny cavtrooper7. Believe me, I need some Humor these days.

Thanks for making me chuckle.

reply to post by Azdraik


Man, I have pulled a few of those large ticks off of me
over the years.

What filthy little bloodsuckers.

But you know what?

They squeal when you put a match to them.

reply to post by Wildmanimal


Yes but we are TALKING about it WAY too much and before you say no way I gotta wonder just how stupid our leaders are to let it get this far?
Have YOU seen the posts where these civilians are dead serious in saying they doubt we would have a chance?
The PROGS ARE BUYING THAT and they are spreading the gospel by say we are terrorists IN AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT!
Oh man,they just haven't got any grasp of that reality and I can only say they really don't want to,I sure don't.