Breaking News! George Zimmerman found not guilty.

Originally posted by seabag


This case was never about race. When will we all stop playing this game? Juries do not consider race….if they do then they’re doing it wrong! We’ve got to stop falling for these race traps because it doesn’t do any of us any good.

Agree.

Its only Race by those pushing an......

AGENDA


I really wish folks would stop. BTW, No one is talking about Georges Hispanic ethnicity.....and that is a fact.

reply to post by muse7


Can you tell us how many of those calls were trivial? What percentage that he said. "suspicious black men"? or is that all just circumstancial?

Especially when considering that Zimmerman lived in a neighborhood that had been plagued by a rash of break-ins. God I hate to say this...but breaks-ins that were mainly described as done by black youths.

Wouldn't you be suspicious of someone who fit the description of the individuals who are conducting break-ins throughout your neighborhood if you saw someone you didn't recognize?

reply to post by LiveEquation

firepower and bullets are meant to end disputes and not to take life.

Hmmm.
Seemed that the guns and ammo that I have used for hunting were designed to kill.

I am convinced that the weapons that the armed forces use are designed to kill also.
The weapons that police officers carry seem to be dangerous also.

After a 260+ pages thread, a long trial, a long awaited verdict, and 64 pages of another thread,
there are still people who insist on making this a racial issue while accusing others of racism.

You guys simply need to give it a rest. This trial was an extreme uphill battle for GZ and the defense (The President of the US going all out against GZ? Please..), and they still won it. Why? Because of facts, evidence, and the law.

The only things you should be concerned about are;
Why are you taking so much interest in this case while there are dozens of other murders litterally every week?
Why are 99% (if not 100%) of African Americans immediatly side with TM while accusing others of being racist?
Why are the Black Panthers threatning to riot?
Why is Twitter littered with loot/rape/death/mayham threats after this verdict when none of these people had any relevance to TM, only their skin color?
How come this specific murder case got the attention of the entire country while 99% of the other murder cases don't?

You got riled up against GZ because of the media, because of Twitter, because of like-minded unthinking people who used this murder's background (white vs black) in order to make a social earthquake.

You do not care the slightest about the facts and evidence presented in court. The only thing that matters to you is to bring up the race card again, and again, and again, and again, to no avail. What is your motive? To spark even more hatred between white and black people? Let it go!

When this story first broke, I had a picture in my mind of some trigger happy fat rent-a-cop killing a teenager for being a teenager. I automatically assumed GZ was the guilty party and will get life or lethal injection. Then forgot about it as an unfortunate event that happens daily around the world.

The media for some odd reason selected this event to start or re-start racial unrest in this country, when nothing in this sad affair was racial. Well, since it got blown out of proportion by the media and hate mongers, I have since been corrected in my assumption of the original event. Especially since the true character of both parties was "leaked" to the public and with the nightly news coverage of the trial, I have a better understanding of the event. With all of the publicity I was drawn back into the drama like much of America.

Now I have a picture in my mind of a neighborhood watch guy doing what he volunteered to do, and a teenager who didn't like the way that some old dude was watching him walk home through the apartment complex, so he got in his face. Most 17 year olds are normally full of spit and vinegar and feel unstoppable, ready to kick anybody's ass that gets in their way. I know I felt like that, and all of the guys I know did too. TM being bigger and in better shape and practicing MMA fan, got the upper hand immediately. Unfortunately GZ had a gun & used it, and TM died.

I am saddened that two parents lost their boy, no parent should have to go through that. I also have not heard any racial accusations come from TM's parents, only from the media and crap stirrers on public forums. It's not race that is the problem. It's TPTB and the authorities perpetuating all of this civil unrest and anger. People need to see whats really happening and quit taking the bait. There is a much larger agenda than letting the Hispanic, who keeps getting stressed as "white", off the hook for killing a black kid. People need to wake up and look behind the info veil, it is a skin of truth stuffed with lies.....

Here is what I learned.

If I ever need to call the police to report a suspicious person and they ask me what color he is I will first say I don't know let me look again to see.

Otherwise I may have the court of public opinion trying to prosecute me for racial profiling.

By the way, I thought THIS PIC was pretty nice.

I keep reading about the racial aspect of this case. One point being that if it were two black men, the case would never have made the headlines.

But say Zimmernam was a black man. Would Martin have confronted and assaulted him in the way he did? Or would it just have fizzled out and both would have gone their seperate ways?

Was Martin guilty of racism? Thinking 'I'm going to take this whiteish guy'.


PS I don't know a great deal about race relations in the US, I'm just thinking out loud about a point I haven't seen mentioned. Apologies if it is a stupid point.
Ands I also think it's a very sorry, sad case where nobody comes out winning. A boys life was lost for no good reason at all.

If OJ Simpson walked free from 2 counts of first degree murder simply because of "probable doubt" then there is no way on earth that Zimmerman would have been convicted.

This has been a MSM witch hunt from day 1 in order to cause racial division, they've turned this case into a complete spectacle and throw it in our faces 24/7. It's pretty blatant at this point.

That's far from a baby picture. People get so up in arms that a picture of Treyvon at a younger age surfaced. OH MY GOD... You mean pictures are from the past and NOT the future???

Of course YOUNGER pictures of Treyvon would surface. He was a growing boy.

Not only is he dead, but he's not allowed to have ever had a childhood. We might as well take a big eraser and erase his whole damn life from start to finish.

At one point in time he was a little boy... and I bet he didn't imagine this is how his life would end. The lack of remorse for this kids death... even if they rightfully ruled it as self defense (Which I don't agree with but for the sake of the point)....there is no remorse. There is no "I wish I had never decided to follow that kid, this was a terrible mistake that ended in something I could not handle without using my gun and I'm very sorry"

But do we hear any of this coming from those who are jumping with joy that citizens on the street have an implied license to take the law in their own hands in the state of Florida? No. They're emboldened.


On another note, the video I watched of the peaceful protesters last night... the kid who was filming and talking about his chat box... He said he couldn't read that stuff right now. It was too racist and he just gave up on trying to interact and was just filming the protesters now.

How does anyone excuse all this happening on a daily basis? And with no intervention from the law. The NSA spies on us but they can't put a stop to those who wish to incite domestic terrorism and riots by angering people with profuse racism? What a cop out! I don't believe that for one second. I think any locals who tried to intervene would hit a brick wall because it is a national issue and it's being allowed and something smells real fishy about it.

The kid said at one point in the march "ok, the chat is LITERALLY filled with Swastikas now"

Does anyone understand the importance of that?

I was preached to by a white supremacist who donned swastikas on his vest. I was preached white supremacy literature by other kids when I was much younger who had gotten mixed up with skinheads and was trying to indoctrinate me.

I can tell you... they know NOTHING about Hitler, Nazis or Swastikas. I asked the man with swastikas on his vest what he could tell me about mein Kamph. He had to concede that he really knew nothing about Hitler. It's a power symbol meant to scare people. This has nothing to do with Hitler. Racism against blacks has NOTHING to do with Hitler.

It's an illusion. I have seen more Nazi propaganda in this modern era come from and be seeded by Zionists than I have seen it anywhere else. The kid who recruited my friends and acquired an automatic rifle was not from a white European family... or a black family. He was from a certain white middle eastern country... preaching fascism to teenagers (oddly enough) and it is a miracle they got out of it before they got into trouble, but one of them was stupid enough to tattoo a great big black swastika on his arm before he was even an adult before knowing ANYTHING about Hitler.

This isn't about Hitler, but somebody wants to make you think it is.

Young dumb supremacists can't make the connection and see that they are being duped. They blindly don the symbol in complete ignorance because to them, it is taught to be a power symbol. Hitler drew huge crowds and this impresses the power hungry but they know nothing of what it all means or they would plainly see that those who promote the symbol are demonizing them.... securing sympathy for a certain government movement that has nothing to do with race or human rights.

It's another psychological false flag. They're putting the blame off on something else, a symbol of the past.
You'll see swastikas all over the place if you look around and it makes not a lick of sense when it comes to racial tension in the US.

reply to post by Knobby

Thinking 'I'm going to take this whiteish guy'.

Apparently he didn't use 'whiteish' in his actual description.

It was 'crazy #$$ cracker' that he used for a description.

Of course, we have already heard... that term isn't racist.

reply to post by NotAnAspie

That's far from a baby picture. People get so up in arms that a picture of Treyvon at a younger age surfaced. OH MY GOD... You mean pictures are from the past and NOT the future???

Then why didn't the MSM post some of his past photos from MySpace and Facebook?

You know, the ones with him flipping off the camera, illegal drugs and such.

Why not?

It didn't fit their agenda.

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Knobby

 

Thinking 'I'm going to take this whiteish guy'.

Apparently he didn't use 'whiteish' in his actual description.

It was 'crazy #$$ cracker' that he used for a description.

Of course, we have already heard... that term isn't racist.

A 17 year old used the racial slur "cracker" (SHOCK)

That does equate to deliberately propagating racial tension all over the media and the web, not in the slightest.

It also is not an excuse for him to now be dead as in "See? He was the racist one, he deserved it"

In this case his use of that term is fear based and is a mild slip of the tongue compared to what is being fueled in front of our eyes which is very obviously deliberate.

If Treyvon was a little racist, it was probably due to incidents like this.

reply to post by butcherguy


I only used that description as he was hispanic, that term came from my mouth ( or fingers).

Can someone tell me what 'crazy ass cracker' means?

Originally posted by Knobby
reply to post by butcherguy

 

I only used that description as he was hispanic, that term came from my mouth ( or fingers).

Can someone tell me what 'crazy ass cracker' means?

It is a descriptive term.
Crazy should be clear enough.

Cracker is a derogatory expression used to describe a white person.

Originally posted by NotAnAspie

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Knobby

 

Thinking 'I'm going to take this whiteish guy'.

Apparently he didn't use 'whiteish' in his actual description.

It was 'crazy #$$ cracker' that he used for a description.

Of course, we have already heard... that term isn't racist.

A 17 year old used the racial slur "cracker" (SHOCK)

That does equate to deliberately propagating racial tension all over the media and the web, not in the slightest.

It also is not an excuse for him to now be dead as in "See? He was the racist one, he deserved it"

In this case his use of that term is fear based and is a mild slip of the tongue compared to what is being fueled in front of our eyes which is very obviously deliberate.

If Treyvon was a little racist, it was probably due to incidents like this.

so you're saying trayvon being racist isn't his fault ? I highly doubt you'd make that comment about someone who's white .. highly doubt it .. stop it with the excuses please .. travyon had his own issues and a propencity for violence that was BLATANLY blocked from being shown in court .. gps and call/text data from his phone from the day of the shooting couldn't be found .. yet all other data from days surrounding that day was found .. I wonder what it is about that gps and call/text data that they didn't want us to know about ? ..

this whole case is a sham with a political agenda .. gz almost got sacrificed for it .. he dodged a big one

Originally posted by KnobbyPS I don't know a great deal about race relations in the US, I'm just thinking out loud about a point I haven't seen mentioned. Apologies if it is a stupid point.
Ands I also think it's a very sorry, sad case where nobody comes out winning. A boys life was lost for no good reason at all.

Let me tell you a brief on "race relations" in the US. There aren't any. Whites are guilty of everything when a black person is involved. Everyone white owes every other race something. Monday, jobs, phones, "assistance", etc. And while whites probably deserved some of that, for some period of time...it is now that which keeps the livestock of the US...every citizen, at each other's throats and in-fighting so the government can continue its agenda to rule, profit and build power and control.

Why doesn't the government build a fence and uphold the illegal immigration laws? Because they want the conflict and they want the immigrant vote. At least THIS government does. And why did Obama have his minions send people and money to protests over the death of this young, black man? Because they can not have the people of the United States all on the same page, at the same time. THAT is when a revolution will start. When everyone becomes responsible, less self-absorbed and a true nation-wide neighborhood...the government falls. And that beast doesn't want to die. And will fight us with it's last breath to win.

Sorry...a bit of a rant there. The truth is there is more non-white racism than the other way around. And it all needs to end. We either stand or fall...together. We fall if apart. An if you look around today, right now...we are obvious falling, while the beast grows. Yup...we are that dumb.

I am not posting this as a troll or as a racially charged idea. I would just like to share my idea of racism and it's role in our biological existence. Also, I do not hold this as a firm belief, I consider an idea in my personal process of understanding the hidden elements of racism among humans - not the assertions of racist elements we hear from so many black or white empowerment groups.

We are a product of nature at the core of our being, we have instincts that surely had a hand in the continued development and evolution of the human race. Many of our oldest instincts have become obsolete, as reality changed and they were no longer neccassary as they once were.

Collectively, we are not stupid and know the difference between the socially accepted right and wrongs. We have emotion and conscience and that leads to the ability of choice. We can choose our opinions and views.

If racism had no roots in our species or bearing on our minds, then the question of racism would never be an issue. If you've never had something, you don't miss it. If we had never been racially motivated, we would not understand the concept of racism.

What drives ancient racism to a point that it is still an major issue today? Survival. Not survival of individuals, but survival of each individual race.

Fear of the unknown could play a part in the fuel of racism. Ancient people saw someone completely different from themselves and it may have scared them. Maybe some races were worried about their eradication at the hands of the strange new race they've encountered. I seems plausible that members of a particular race would identify with other people in the same race. They may have even joined each other to form 'militias' to help ensure their race remains the dominant one.

If this type of behavior continued for hundreds or thousands of years, would it become a hardwired emotion/instinct?

Maybe everyone is born with the capacity for some level of racism, without influence from outside parties?

Those people who are truly racist may have cultivated this instinct to a point where it dominated their personality and passed their beliefs to their children. There may be racists out there who have no good reason to feel racist and don't fully understand where their feelings come from.

If racism is a type of hardwired instinct, developed over hundreds or thousands of years, could it be rewired the same way - over hundreds years?

Hopefully everyone will choose to accept all races, with no prejudice. If we all were to work together and do our best to make sure our following generations will understand the impostance of working together to eradicate racism. Maybe we can choose to eliminate any instinct of racism to the extent that future generations believe how stupid we must have been to treat each other the way we have.

it truly is disgusting

he did kill the kid!

and he cant claim self defence if he went to confront the kid, after being told not to


the only people to condone this are racists who wish to have a go... and GZ affiliates