The Language of Vampyr

One of the contributor's Duanan. Google- Duanan hightstown virginia.

Can someone open and explain that second link which is a download. He lists his work as government and that link is looking like someone who works for a alphabet agency. No wonder why they are analyzing and translating this whole thread. These guys are prob setting up surveillance drones asap. So scratch my idea that the NSA might be watching this. The damned guys are outta their lair and into this one. Nice to see they have as much of a fascination of UFO's and ET as we do. Thanks freedom of information act!

Funny how it's secretive. Now it's all clear where the tax dollars are being funneled 24/7 to this wonderful off the record project. lovely.. More questions then answers from these folks. Maybe my trusty tinfoil hat can stop you from triangulating on me and launching a reaper....

At this point this needs to be public. Incase you are analyzed and dealt with. Be sure to leave a trial of candy as to why.

Seriously... This is good stuff right here. Keep knocking at the door. If nobody answers. Kick it in.

reply to post by Jonjonj


Thanks for that. And it has. "Water off a duck's back" as they say.
Some folks aren't worth the time of day.
Its just that moment when you actually realize that tends to suck a big one.

Originally posted by abeverage
reply to post by AboveBoard

 

You are the only one here being motivated by truly unselfish means...

I know this will be hard to hear, but what if you are right? What if he is at level of human understanding outside of yours? You bring up an interesting point. [edit - AB]

Imagine a world without verbal communication could it had been like our ancient ancestors? Where they did not communicate with language but visual and audible cues? Someone has to pioneer new ways of communication I hope any experts find your plea an inspiration, and I regret not being more help to you.

edit on 18-7-2013 by abeverage because: (no reason given)

Dear Abeverage,
Thank you so much for posting this. I don't know how unselfish I am - in fact I feel very selfishly motivated to help my son! :-)

Yes, the video you have posted earlier (anyone interested click on the link for Abeverage's thread above and you will get there) is of an individual I have seen before - I think this version has been edited from the earlier one I saw, and I actually prefer this video to the older one. It is a beautiful video, in my opinion. And I would think extremely interesting to a linguist!

I have always been aware that what is termed my son's "stimming" has meaning and purpose to him. Doctors/Phd's in the field would look at me like I was crazy, or give me that "this poor woman is still in denial" look when I tried to explain that my son is not doing simply random things - he is exploring the world in very scientific ways, constantly experimenting with tapping, making patterns in the air with strings, etc. Interestingly, the longer people work with him, the more they begin to see it too, and I have had several professionals tell me they 'irrationally' feel that there is "so much going on in him that is way beyond what we are used to seeing but we don't know why we think that." I then tell them to watch what he does, and look for how intentional it is and how precise. A lightbulb usually goes off for them, too!

I appreciate how, in the video, she terms it her language and that she is in constant interaction/communication with the world around her - or the stimulus of her focus. She is more severe on the scale than my son, but it is very very similar. It is a loop of constant action/reaction that we helpful "trainers" interrupt with our demands to do activities such as stack and sort things, set the table, clean up, and talk to us etc.

Thank you so much for responding. It is greatly appreciated. I have thrown this topic into the ring for consideration as there is a great possibility in my mind, that my son IS communicating, and may be very frustrated that I don't understand HIS language! :-)

peace,
AB

reply to post by Frogs

Most groups, when they come together, have a forming, storming and norming period. Forming is when you kind of get to know each other for the first time, the first contacts. Storming is the (usually) inevitable clash, and norming is where they figure out how to work together. A few teams actually get to performing. This is where they *really* start to do amazing things.

That was a nice dense post and I learned a lot, thanks. I am really fond now of the "forming, storming and norming", concept; I think it's really simple and elegant.

You really are in to this group-dynamics thing, huh? Are you interested in management systems? I am really fascinated by the Federated Architecture model and how it is changing along with the advent of virtualization.

reply to post by topdog81


I had a similar idea. I didn't experience any strange dreams though but I was distracted with my studies when I viewed the vids.

The thread has taken a sudden change. Mostly ATS'er posting tonight.

Our friends usually arrive at the same time every night/day, if anyone hasn't noticed it yet. They seem to be late?

reply to post by JosephPalasky


I noticed, but I also take into consideration real life. Also, they have a lot of catching up to do. I am sure they read the whole thread before coming in to comment..

We do seem to be babbling a bit, so catching up might prove interesting for Direne.

reply to post by Doodle19815


Babbling? Us??
Nah!! We are ALWAYS on point!

reply to post by Doodle19815


Babble, nice, considering Babel and such like is what got us here

Originally posted by topdog81
Because we know that the subject matter of many of the videos posted by FL is part of a "remote viewing experiment"... I would exercise caution before viewing them. As it could very well be that the viewer may then be remotely-viewed by???[who knows]

When I first started participation in this thread, I watched a couple of the vids and then I had vivid dreams of a very unusual sort. IMO this might be a way for FL's collective to tap into the thoughts and emotions of unwitting subjects.

What better way to generate LOADS of attention[thereby subjects(guinea pigs)]than by cloaking each layer of the group in confounding mystery.

I like the aim in which you are thinking. And i thought something similar myself when each image starting pulsing a flashing light. Thought it was something snapping photos maybe. But why if this was indeed the case would they be direct line only accessible? They are on youtube but locked for only each other to see. It would make more sense for them to be open to the public instead of locked for member only view. So i think it's something they do not wish us digging into. Interesting titles like landing on the 11th planet and such. Only open to them to view. Or a pesky person sifting through untill they stumble upon them.

Having re-reviewed the video of aynwijn forest, it is truly disturbing. It seems to be some kind of complete bashing of any morality whatsoever and a celebration of immorality, all is represented in a bad light. Also the Satanic imagery is very explicit. This fits where in the scheme of things? I have no clue, a little lost to be honest.
I haven't posted the video again, given that some users may click by accident, and may not want to see it.

Originally posted by Direne
reply to post by Kantzveldt

 

Kantzveldt, I consider your statements correct. What the Sumerians wrote, I take it for truth. They did not make a mistake: the mistake is ours. Where is the mistake? The mistake is that when the good Sumerians were talking about "they will come", we did not realize a simple, basic thing. I explain myself now.

Let's take the following scenario 1: A recce ship from an exoplanet comes to visit us. The recce ship crashes. In a desert. Say, in 1947. What would the mothership commander do?

Scenario 2: An F-16 crashes on a mission over a desert in Iran. In 2013. What would the commander do?

For scenario 2, we know what would happen. You just send another plane to see what has happened and report back.

For scenario 1, you do exactly the same. The difference is this: you were travelling at near the speed of light (otherwise forget about coming from an exoplanet). It happens that 7 years at that speed means 500 years for you. This means that the 1947 crash happened just 3 months ago for the guys in the mothership. hence, assuming those guys would do exactly what you would do in a similar situation, you should be expecting those guys to pop up in about 2 months, Earth time.

This all means, switching back to Sumerian mythology, that we tend to measure time in a very funny way: the way we are used to. And we do this even when relativity theory is there for us to teach us not to take things for granted. So, yes, people "coming out" from Naama (we call it Nemma, it means "ocean") will come. The question is when?

Here's the thing Direne, the Sumerians never wrote anything about 'they shall come', they were already considered there, in the spiritual sense.


Now in terms of the cliffhanger you left us with last night, i considered this statement of yours;

We create what-if scenarios and study their probability of occurence. We also have a nice software devoted to perform correlations of events happening here, in order to find patterns.

I think what you were going to try and run by us would have been such a hypothetical scenario, involving pattern, distances in time and space, factoring in the speed of light and such forth, we can leave this as an unanswered question.

Originally posted by Direne
reply to post by Kantzveldt

 

Kantzveldt, I consider your statements correct. What the Sumerians wrote, I take it for truth. They did not make a mistake: the mistake is ours. Where is the mistake? The mistake is that when the good Sumerians were talking about "they will come", we did not realize a simple, basic thing. I explain myself now.

Let's take the following scenario 1: A recce ship from an exoplanet comes to visit us. The recce ship crashes. In a desert. Say, in 1947. What would the mothership commander do?

Scenario 2: An F-16 crashes on a mission over a desert in Iran. In 2013. What would the commander do?

For scenario 2, we know what would happen. You just send another plane to see what has happened and report back.

For scenario 1, you do exactly the same. The difference is this: you were travelling at near the speed of light (otherwise forget about coming from an exoplanet). It happens that 7 years at that speed means 500 years for you. This means that the 1947 crash happened just 3 months ago for the guys in the mothership. hence, assuming those guys would do exactly what you would do in a similar situation, you should be expecting those guys to pop up in about 2 months, Earth time.

This all means, switching back to Sumerian mythology, that we tend to measure time in a very funny way: the way we are used to. And we do this even when relativity theory is there for us to teach us not to take things for granted. So, yes, people "coming out" from Naama (we call it Nemma, it means "ocean") will come. The question is when?

Back to her last post...

Did she mean we should be expecting them in two months from yesterday? Ugh..I need to stop reading this post over and over again. I keep trying to make sense of something I don't understand.

Might I suggest that EVEN IF the members of FL are now being coy and not playing ball as it were, that that is no reason to forget about this thread. Much interest can be found simply digging around and hey, what's a mystery when it's solved? Not a mystery any more

Originally posted by Doodle19815

Originally posted by Direne
reply to post by Kantzveldt

 

Kantzveldt, I consider your statements correct. What the Sumerians wrote, I take it for truth. They did not make a mistake: the mistake is ours. Where is the mistake? The mistake is that when the good Sumerians were talking about "they will come", we did not realize a simple, basic thing. I explain myself now.

Let's take the following scenario 1: A recce ship from an exoplanet comes to visit us. The recce ship crashes. In a desert. Say, in 1947. What would the mothership commander do?

Scenario 2: An F-16 crashes on a mission over a desert in Iran. In 2013. What would the commander do?

For scenario 2, we know what would happen. You just send another plane to see what has happened and report back.

For scenario 1, you do exactly the same. The difference is this: you were travelling at near the speed of light (otherwise forget about coming from an exoplanet). It happens that 7 years at that speed means 500 years for you. This means that the 1947 crash happened just 3 months ago for the guys in the mothership. hence, assuming those guys would do exactly what you would do in a similar situation, you should be expecting those guys to pop up in about 2 months, Earth time.

This all means, switching back to Sumerian mythology, that we tend to measure time in a very funny way: the way we are used to. And we do this even when relativity theory is there for us to teach us not to take things for granted. So, yes, people "coming out" from Naama (we call it Nemma, it means "ocean") will come. The question is when?

Back to her last post...

Did she mean we should be expecting them in two months from yesterday? Ugh..I need to stop reading this post over and over again. I keep trying to make sense of something I don't understand.

Or so, the ambiguity of it, when talking about time dilation at close or exceeding speeds of light are enormous lol



Also the "hence, assuming those guys would do exactly what you would do in a similar situation, you should be expecting those guys to pop up in about 2 months, Earth time." Is a pretty big kick in the brain I hate conditional sentences of supposition, I really do

reply to post by Doodle19815


Awhile back in another thread we were talking about what it would mean to be an inter-stellar species.
It would be a tough life if you actually had a home planet. For unless you were traveling through wormholes or otherwise folding space somehow, you are going to return home to a planet where everyone you know is now dead.

But for US, say they were traveling HERE, those same people will appear to be immortal.

Such people wouldn't really identify any place as "home." Not in the sense we do anyways.

reply to post by JayinAR

I was going to relate this story in a different context, but maybe it fits here.

If we are to believe what Ayndryl told me last night, they are done here, bro.
I ran 'em off.

And again, I apologize profusely.
I was an ass.

I thought it was funny too. That's bad.

One of the identified characteristics of cults is the taking over of the mating process, as in the leader decides who marries whom among the members.

Back in 1973, while a member of cult, a super fine looking girl, quite matter of fact-ly said to me, "____[cult leader] told me that you are my designated soul mate."

Soul Mate is a fairly heavy concept, not to be thrown around lightly.

"Interesting", I thought, "I will keep that in mind."

Shortly thereafter, matter of days, I was outside of the cult by mutual agreement and plenty of hard feelings and recriminations, and possibly a curse or two (not from my side).

About a year later I was dreaming a dream, and she made a cameo appearance, enter stage left. I realized that I couldn't remember her name as hard as I racked my brain.

After waking, I still couldn't remember her name. "Oh well", says I, "I'll just have to go to her house and ask her." When I got to her driveway, I saw her last name on the mailbox at the street. "Oh yes, that's it! If I say her last name enough times, maybe it will shake her first name loose."

After standing by the mailbox for at least 5 minutes, I gave up, "I'll just have to go through with asking her her name." So I proceeded up the driveway and knocked on her door. Her sister answered the door and looked at me for a while. I was too embarrassed to just blurt out "What's your sister's name".

Eventually she broke the awkward silence by saying, "If you're looking for _____, she's not here right now, but if you'd like to wait for her, you can come inside."

I could have replied "No", since I had just heard her name, "Mission accomplished!". But I decided what the heck, might as well test this "Soul Mate" theory. So I waited there at the breakfast bar for about 10 minutes.

When _____ came in, she was all a bustle getting ready to leave again for class, about a 20 minute drive away. So I sat and watched her while keeping the thought in mind "Is she or is she not". After about five minutes of her bustling around and me sitting and watching, not one, but two of the cult leaders arrived in separate cars. I suspect that her sister had access to a telephone.

So the five of us; myself, my supposed soul mate, her sister, and two cult leaders, had a fairly non-specific chat about nothing much in particular. Then we went our separate ways.

What strikes me now, as I recall this, is the innocuous nature of the confrontation. No one felt obliged to prove anything, and no one was a threat to any one else there. What can I conclude but that as far as the cult was concerned I had already been neutralized and no further action was required.

But were they correct in their assumption? The cult itself is gone, being one of those that doesn't outlive its founder. I, on the other hand, am still doing whatever it is I'm doing. Funny how things turn out.

reply to post by AboveBoard

I saw this book mentioned on the FL site and thought maybe of some interest to you...I am not promoting it as I have not read it but regardless here it is...
....at least I think it is a book forgottenlanguages-full.forgottenlanguages.org... chive.html

Sincerely, shells4u

The above link may not work properly...I found this info in their blog archives:May 2011(13)

Folks,

I don't know if this helps or not, but XViS's videos are highly derivative. It really just depends on what's on your 'radar', I think. It's that frame of reference thing. If you don't share much in common with the artist, their work can be very alienating; sometimes that's good and sometimes it doesn't work out for either party.

This is Cremaster from Matthew Barney, you'll be glad I only posted the trailer...



Of course, I am not offering this video as singular 'evidence' of what XViS has derived his work from, I am just trying to demonstrate that there is a whole underlying aesthetic from which the people at FL draw inspiration.

As far as the music? John Butler seemed to be ahead of the game back in 2010...



I personally am not disturbed by the videos in the slightest. I'm just confused as to why I caught flack from Direne over the spawning fish when XViS's videos contain what they do.

reply to post by sadybull


No one wonders what's behind an open door.

Lock it, strap it with chains, and put a warning sign on it.... *people will line up in droves to take a crack at opening it.

*A specific type of people = Us