Time to Come Clean: I'm an Abductee!!

reply to post by The GUT

and it's those threads that do hold potential "good" especially for those who have experienced the phenomenon.

Like me; yep, I'm another one.

Thanks for your candid story, TG, your example sure does put bravery in a soul to tell their story, too. It's one of the hardest things to do, and as a person that is so interested in learning from 'the phenomenon', I always feel as though I am holding back stuff when we all get together to discuss this type of thing. You must feel relieved, somehow.

Your story is awesome, the part where you go around the corner of the house in the dark gave me that 'psychic rain' thingy where my eyes get all stingie and tear up. How #in' creepy. I am amazed at your very Tauran ability to stand there later and assess the situation so carefully; what a tank (armor/gun variety).

The older-brother connection gives me the willies, but I couldn't tell you why. Could it have been a play for your emotions, somehow? Geez, I don't know. The story does have in common things with the 'abduction phenomenon' but it also has other high-strangeness qualities to it in the sense that it also seems to suggest 'clandestine pacts' with 'sinister-seeming beings' at night. So it's kinda medieval, too.

At the very least it seems to me that your 6 year-old TG had slipped somehow in to the weird realm of the 'lower-astral dust-bin', as I have heard it termed.

What I can say about my own experiences, after trying to get as close to them as humanly possible, is that I seem to be a great sufferer and experiencer of powerful sleep-phenomenon and related sequelae. I've seen it all from about 7 or 8, and then it really kicked in at 15; and I have never outgrown it.

Thanks again, TG, for knocking it out of the park.

Originally posted by FireMoon
...With that in mind sic, then it does strike me that, the creature on all fours was possibly the summation of your fears, both for your brother and for yourself? Now one can say, well that was a physical, to you anyway, manifestation of your deep fears or, you could say that, your "guide" to the wonderful world of whibble was actually meant to expunge you of your deep seated and subconscious fear and guilt about your brother's situation?

XYBPDQ...better zip up, your brilliance is showing again.

I've certainly felt survivors guilt all my life up until this very day. As I said, he was a beautiful and sweet soul who captured the hearts of all. I've been a rather adventuresome stinker. Why him and not me?

I love you my brother...but you already know that.

reply to post by The GUT
Always a pleasure Gut! I know my thinking is a little off the beaten path sometimes, but I find that the age at which these two incidents occurred is very interesting. Many of the people I have encountered who are like me- a "magnet" for weird- began experiencing strange incidents usually around the age of 5 or 6 years old. Most of the time when a child of that age reports strange experiences to the adults in their lives they are written off as the wanderings of a vivid imagination related to the particular age group. I am of a mind that 5 or 6 year olds would be a perfect "target" range because of that fact.

I read everyone's experiences trying to form an opinion. Do these beings bother people with pets in the bedroom? What age group is effected? Do people see small balls of light in the room scanning the room? Do religious icons in the bedroom detour these creatures from coming? Would sleeping with a bible help?

My son had his wisdom teeth taken out recently, and he was definitely drugged up from the anesthetitc gas. It was a semi consciousness experience. He didn't remember things that were said in the room up to an hour after the procedure. His thoughts weren't connecting correctly in his mind. So, I could see how someone could come and take people, and how mixed up people would be due to drugs induced onto them. It is probably a gas. I think anyone who has been abducted, or thinks they have, should take an immediate blood sample from their finger. A pin prick from a safety pin... and then have it looked at to see if drugs were used on them. Put sample in a clean glass jar.

I am sure people could start proving all this with medical science if they started documenting any biological effects. Blood tests, photos, x rays, bruises, symptoms from after effects, blood types, birth dates, locations, time of day, neighbors comments, do the dogs bark, or is there residual radiation on the person and the bed? God bless anyone who has experienced and suffered from this type of event.

Originally posted by Bybyots
At the very least it seems to me that your 6 year-old TG had slipped somehow in to the weird realm of the 'lower-astral dust-bin', as I have heard it termed.

What I can say about my own experiences, after trying to get as close to them as humanly possible, is that I seem to be a great sufferer and experiencer of powerful sleep-phenomenon and related sequelae. I've seen it all from about 7 or 8, and then it really kicked in at 15; and I have never outgrown it.

Thanks again, TG, for knocking it out of the park.

You so often seem to view your armor as rusty, but when it comes to noble Knights, you always come to the rescue and are, imo, a great warrior indeed. No matter what name you are going under at the moment Sir Bybyots yuk-yuk!

Speaking of "home runs," it was you who knocked it out of the park in the MIB(OPs) thread.

I certainly don't feel I deserve the outstanding and much appreciated support I'm receiving from so many quality ATS denizens. I thank every one of you, too, who have sent U2U's. What GREAT stuff is contained in those. I wish everyone could see them...but such is the nature of PMs. Although I will say, we can expect some kickbutt threads from some extremely fascinating members soon. I'm REALLY looking forward to them.

Hey, Bybyots...I'm itching to topple some of our old windmills, the feathered carrion, but my spirit is weak and my research somewhat stalled. Any ideas shoot me a PM.

reply to post by frugal

Originally posted by frugal
I think anyone who has been abducted, or thinks they have, should take an immediate blood sample from their finger. ... and then have it looked at to see if drugs were used on them. I am sure people could start proving all this with medical science.

The vast majority of alien encounters involves some type of spiritual phenomenon.

This is why the entire ET scenario DEPENDS on an illusion.

Joe Jordan's research has clearly shown that the truth about this is being covered up in order to hide the real agenda.

I highly recommend watching his video on YouTube...

I was so ashamed of posting about an experience I had as a child I have decided to leave ATS and have deleted my images etc but nevertheless what I experienced was not in isolation, I posted that story in a comment here www.abovetopsecret.com...
I am adding it to yours here, I am not a fantasist though I have delved into my own psyche and tried to perform RV, I can not say I had any success but since this is my last post before I leave ATS that post I made there in more appropriate here so I will repeat it for you.

I do not know what to believe here as in myself I am so unlike most people but as a child in the 1970's I once saw a Blue crystalline shaped object seemingly interpenetrating the roof of a house without damaging it though the first time I saw it there were burn marks around it on the roof and over the next two week's it faded until it completely disappeared from view, I was only a small child and called it Frozen lightning, it gave off a blue light and appeared almost transparent, the other people whom were older than me such as my sister whom was a teenager seemed to be almost like sleep walking like they could not see it or seemed to not notice it.

I also remember seeing a semi circular object on three legs in the back garden of our house and my mother recall's being frightened and trying to keep me safe, holding me in her arms and I was crying frightened, she was looking out of the window and something was shooting up into the sky with fire coming out behind it, that object was almost horse shoe shaped and only the size of a large car with three small beings child sized in silver suit's and with black face glass on there helmet's which looked like space suit's.

I can remember a dark place with a woman's voice and they did something to me because I was aware of them to stop me, I have a small curved indentation in my scalp that is tender to this day about one inch long and over 2 millimetres deep and one across on the top side of my heap over my right ear, there is no other oddity in my scalp but I seem to remember them opening my head and taking something from me, it was dark, metallic and long where ever I was, Whom ever the female voice was I can not remember what it said.

I have had many experience of the paranormal type but other than these the only UFO type encounter I have had since was in the late 1990's when I observed a metallic reflective surface on an unlighted object that was circular just under the cloud about 200 to 300 feet up that was flying as fast as a jet fighter against the high wind speed at about 2.45 in the morning over the small Lancashire village of westhead between the towns of ormskirk and skelmersdale when I was walking home after finishing a shift at work.
Oddly I felt it which is why I looked up and felt like it was looking at me and I believe it realised I was aware of it.
The old lights were sodium street lights that lit the underside of it and the cloud up with a yellowish glow.

I live in Lancashire England so that should make some sense to any one interested.

I wish you all on ATS all the best and have enjoyed my brief participation, god bless.

reply to post by LABTECH767
LABTECH, don't leave!! No need for that. Your ATS numbers should show you that you definitely have folk that appreciate you. Thank you for sharing your experiences here.

High-strangeness is nothing new to the types of incidents we research and discuss here at ATS. Please read the following before you make your final decision, okay?

Curiouser and Curiouser: ‘High Strangeness’ UFO Encounters by Gareth J. Medway

Also, have you spoken with FireMoon? He does have an interesting & knowledgeable perspective about y'alls side of the pond as relates to all this. Shoot him a PM, he's a very friendly and cool chap.

reply to post by The GUT


I couldn't sleep worth crap last night.

Kept thinking about that darn critter

I kept thinking man if that thing comes back now...

My cat wouldn't stay put and would go in and out of the room. I finally got up and got my Donald duck night light and plugged it in.

Of course that thing made a shadow on the bathroom door in my room that looked like a creature from hell.

I ended up reading until almost 5:00 am and finally past out.

reply to post by RUFFREADY
HaHa, great story, Ruff. My daughter brought me home a stray black cat so we named her "Lucky." She's being raised around three dogs, so she has her own kennel and loves it. I usually let her run free at night, however, and it's interesting to see her shadow pop up in the darkness of the bedroom.

She sometimes stays so busy getting into things that I put her up. Even when I do, being that she's coal black, I keep thinking I see her shape/shadow outline around my bed and around the room. I tease that she's a "familiar."

She was too young to be separated from mum, but that was the reality along with the fact that she had been hopelessly wandering and dirty, so me and my daughter decided that despite her young age we needed to bathe her. These are pics after her first bath.

Alien Cat:

She was a lil' mad about the dunking:

But ever ready to play though.

Okay, I went off topic, but Ruff started it and I did make an allusion to Lucky as a familiar. Boy, I'm getting soft these days. Ain't she a cutie though?

reply to post by The GUT


Thank you, I shall lurk for a while though, after admitting what I experienced or believe I experienced back then I feel a bit stupid for having posted it and know there will be others whom will regard me as totally cracked, Hell maybe they are right, When I read whitely Strieber's communion it gave me a real fright as so much felt familiar and I remembered the blue crystal structure in the house roof, Now that roof was on a house were a true friend of my mother and a very good person lived, she was a lovely woman called Betty whom would help anyone and worked hard raising her children, Though I was a child myself I remember her fondly and my mother says she was a genuine friend (honest and not two faced), sadly she developed a rare bone cancer that calcified her bone's and died some years after I observed this, as far as I know no other family members suffered anything similar, (About the same time I witnessed this) My sister Jeanette and her friends played with a uiga board in the shed of the house were we lived which her friend had brought around, they were teenagers and apparently something happened that scared them so much they shattered the glass and Jeanette would not sleep with the light off for some time, she also developed a very cruel streak and wicked nature, she is devious to this day but like the old saying blood is thicker than water though she tried to poison her own mother (I will say no more there).

Back to the UFO abduction experiences, Some are genuine and some are not alien but may be tied to secret programs.

Thank you I will lurk for now.

reply to post by The GUT


Nice eyes on that moggy, and great pics

Us experiencers like cats for some reason. The books by Whitley Strieber had his cats, he'd grab one of his when they would try to take him (I believe I read in one his books-maybe two).

I've been in a few dangerous situations around world and seen a few ugly things. I usually can fall right to sleep if I have to (after a long time up) I was probably just spinning this in my head and such. But, of course I'm alone now (except for the cat) and nobody's on guard duty.

reply to post by RUFFREADY

Us experiencers like cats for some reason.

If it weren't for my cat I am pretty sure I would only be brave enough to voice the opinion that it is all a result of my neurology and that it comes out during different stages of my sleep cycle.

But the cat knows there is something up, too. I am firmly of the opinion that they see it, but whatever it is won't bother them. Since they can see it and know it's there and they know it is about us, and that we have to deal with it, they take pity on us, and that is why they are so kind to us. Like they know it is their job to somehow assuage the emotional drain of living in two worlds; which they know all about. It's like they are baffled that we ignore it and are surprised when it bites us on the ass but they love us anyway.

By 'it', I mean whatever space that is that spawns gimp monsters to scare 6 year olds; or make deals with them.

Originally posted by The GUT
My daughter brought me home a stray black cat so we named her "Lucky." She sometimes stays so busy getting into things that I put her up.

As long as she doesn't try to log onto your ATS you MIGHT be safe...

Here is one of the "alien" cats seen trying to phone home:

Domestic house cats, it seems, may be alien sentinels—sent to spy on us and report their findings back to the mother ship. Or, as some theorists have put it, they’re like alien camcorders tracking our every move.

Are Cats Spies Sent by Aliens?

How to Tell If Your Cat Is from Outer Space

If you suspect that your cat may be from another planet, ask yourself these questions:

-- Do you sometimes wake in the night to find your cat fighting with extraterrestrial beings from another dimension that no one but the cat can see?

- Does your cat often simulate life in an anti-gravity environment by rolling on his back to look at you upside down, or stretch into peculiar ballet positions in your arms? Does your cat pretzel into strange sleeping postures that suggest she has undergone extensive astronaut training?

- Does your cat try to communicate with extraterrestrials by meowing at the TV, sitting on short-wave radios, lying on the computer monitor, or in any way attempting to serve as an antenna for a piece of consumer electronics?

- Does your cat stare at walls for hours as if receiving radio messages from the mothership through the plasterboard?


- Does your cat meticulously push the sand around in her litterbox so that it looks crater-pocked like the lunar surface?

- Does your cat's style of communicating with your computer seem more advanced than your own? For instance, does the cat sit on the monitor and look at it upside-down, or lay on the keyboard until the computer won't stop beeping?

- Does your cat seem more intelligent than you are sometimes -- and superior to you as well?

barb.velvet.com...

Okay, let's, uhm, raise the kitty as it were. I call you one astral phenomenon and raise you one MILAB.

Like I inferred earlier, I'm at the very least sure that MILABS don't account for all the phenomenon surrounding this arena, nor do I assert they even exist. I will say that some evidence exists that can be intriguingly compelling and rather suggestive.

Chef Gut gotta feed the crew and do a few chores. If someone starts the ball rolling, I promise to come to the poker table with some game.

Murgatroid, maybe? Anyone? Hey, how about Druscilla...she has indicated some positive interest in the psyops aspect of ufologia in the past. I'd love to see her dig into this aspect from the psyops standpoint.

Then there's FireMoon, who knows a bit about a very interesting cat who went by the moniker of Dr. Armen Victorian. No matter what they say about that dude, he was a force to be reckoned with...word to yer mammy.

A very interesting read. Not much i can add really. But thanks for the read and i hope it doesn't haunt you too much!

Also, just because you were 6 shouldn't make this any less believable for anyone let alone yourself.

Originally posted by qmantoo

If we felt it or dreamed it - what is the difference? I know that some people like to say that unless they touched it, it is not real, but touch is only another sense. We are interpreting a 'blob of energy (the finger/hand) touching another blob of energy (our body). It is our brain which is doing the interpreting into feelings and our mind doing the receiving of the different energy 'blobs'.

I think we need to give ourselves permission to treat our experiences as real but not necessarily totally in the 3D.

I think there is ample truth to your assertions to a point.

Certainly dreams can have a somewhat equal impact on our subconscious about as much as more tangible reality in many cases. Ditto hypnosis.

However, tangible reality still carries incredible weight as tangible reality.

And I don't think it furthers our capacities to face reality to overly muddle the distinctions.

I think there are too many compunctions far too tempting to pass off some troublesome to frightful very tangible realities as 'merely' dreams or 'hallucinations' or whatever out of convenience . . . to side-step the seemingly

toooooooo difficult, preposterous, challenging course

of facing the intractable, the beyond mysterious, the overpowering, the. . . supernatural.

Ours is an era that has been intensely conditioned to sidestep such realities as the matador side-steps the bull.

. . . i.e. when the whole business has not been tossed aside with fiercely deep levels of denial.

Certainly it is REALITY to face dreams, illusions, delusions etc. for what they are. One best not deny that a dream is a dream or an illusion an illusion or a delusion a delusion any more than one best not deny the Mack truck bearing down out of control on the icy road on one's bicycle.

Which reminds me . . . one can read plenty in the UFO field about "mass hallucinations." What nonsense. Hallucinations by definition are VERY idiosyncratic--tailored uniquely to each individual's history; each individual's psychology; each individual's priorities, sensibilities, preferences, fears, assumptions, fantasies etc.

Except perhaps with highly classified technologies foisting images, sounds etc. into the brains of all the people in a given locale and group, there is no such thing as mass hallucination.

Originally posted by The GUT
I certainly hesitate to bring Whitley Strieber into this, but I am fairly compelled to after member corsair00 shared the following story with me and I had to take the information into account since Strieber and I spent time on the same Air Force Bases as brats.

Whitley's esoteric/occult background with the Gurdjieff Foundation must, also, be considered when pondering his "experiences."

.....

Whitley Strieber: "Alien Abductee" Admits to Childhood Mind Control Manipulation

I certainly have no memory, as Whitley Professes, of any school in Monterey, Mexico, but we did--as a family--visit Mexico a few times when we were stationed in Texas.
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One thing for sure that does seem to be true in the podcast is that the ominous and curious story known as The Finders was classified Top Secret and hushed up rather diabolically, and somewhat late in the game at that---after they found the pics of the adults and kids in robes gleefully killing goats!
....

Sorry to butcher your quote, but I didn't want my response deleted for "over-quoting."

Fascinating info there. I find "The Finders" especially disturbing. I would give Marion Pettie a wide berth. He was an expert people manipulator, to say the least, -- really a dangerous man.

One of the things that caught my attention was how Pettie "managed" Eddie Dean (the interviewer) with a cigar.

I'm instantly reminded of the stories of how Fidel Castro (a real "Man of Power") controlled people with his cigar smoke. No kidding. Most do not seem to be aware that tobacco was a sacred herb to the Native Americans and used in their magickal rituals. Still used in Santeria & Haitian Voudoun rituals to this day. The smoke carried his will.

I usually stay out of UFO threads -- it's too complex a topic to discuss adequately on a thread. There are so many players.

I have no doubt that ETs are real and have probably been visiting this planet since it was a rock.
There's more than one kind and they're still present.

Then there's the astral phenomena: angels, jinns, and demons are real -- they're parallel life-forms. Jinns have no trouble appearing as physical items, both animate & inanimate -- they're shape-shifters.

And then there are humans who have their own uses for the UFO & "Abductee" phenomena.

Any discussion gets complicated in a hurry.

reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli


I'm a bit curious . . . (if you are willing to indulge my query) . . . within the parameters of having to do with GUT's being an abductee and the important factors about all that.

What 3-5 factors, experiences, bits of logic; bits of evidence . . . have convinced you (to your satisfaction)

1. that there are Pleiadians . . . HOW have you verified their existence . . . and that whatever they are, that they truly are from the Pleiades?

2. that the constellations have influence on the affairs of man . . . mentalities, emotions, relationships, doings?

3. that the critters do anything or don't do anything according to the positions of the constellations?

4. that a person's birth in a given moment of time has anything to do with the association with that set of constellation settings . . . and that such have anything to do with the rest of their lives.

= = = =

EVERY LAST scientific study I've ever read about has found 0.0000000000000000000000% correlation for all that.

reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli


And the Draco reptilian critters are claimed to come from there, IIRC.

. . . if one believes critters known to chronically lie, lie, lie. . . . as well as an NWO globalist oligarchy given to grand schemes of wholesale lying . . .