Time to Come Clean: I'm an Abductee!!

Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by TDawgRex

 

If and when you get it written up, I'd love to read your family experiences. . . . either in a thread or a U2U.

Thanks for your posts.

I think that we were just a typical dyslexic nuclear family. But way before they became popular. Us kids were probably the fore-runners to latch key kids as well.

Sometimes I think that I am over dramatizing things, but then I see the gaping holes in my family’s history. The things that aren’t talked about (maybe because they’re too painful?) or things that are inadvertently brought up and then dropped like a hot potato.

Things that bring out the curious critter in me.

If what I find out is interesting and I do tell what I find. It'll show up as a "Based upon a True Story" version of fiction.

Fromabove -

After the blemish disappeared it never came back and left no marks. I was never bothered by the presence after that.

Like cropcircles, just because something has now disappeared, does not mean that it is gone. Crop circles stay in the environment as symbols which have far-reaching effects on the surrounding area. They are anchored in other dimensions long after the physical 3D effects can no longer be seen by us.

Kantzveldt -

There are examples were i have dreamt of someone who has died, and in the morning awoken with a whole series of 'memories' of having encoutered and spoken with that person in the period following his death, there is no way to distinguish these from memories that occured in real life.

If you look at this from a larger perspective, it is quite possible that communication can exist after someone moves on from this 3D life.

Reality is obviously NOT what we think of as being able to experience with our 6 senses. Science is now establishing that everything is being proved to be energy, so there is absolutely no reason why we need to receive only the 3D energies of our 'reality' and not other frequencies too from other realities. Surely this is what a medium is - someone who can use their senses to interpret other energies outside our 3D ones.

reply to post by The GUT


Nice post. It reminds me of my own weird experiences. I could hear voices as a child. I had visions until recently. And abduction dreams. It always looked like a weird dream, half-real, half delirious, as when you have fever, if you know what I mean. I saw a grey-metallic facility once, and saw an entity feeding on another abductee in it. In another I saw... well something even more revolting. I just hope they were just dreams.

One day I dreamed there was a reptilian figure which went inside my house during the night, to scare me. I hate to use the word "reptilian" but that's what it was.
The problem is, I actually like reptiles so I didn't feel scared but rather intrigued instead, and I never dreamed of it again.

But then, there is something weird about our recent family, and these experiences happened to other members of my family as well. I wonder if they (whatever "they" are) are after some genetic code.

Originally posted by TDawgRex
I think that we were just a typical dyslexic nuclear family. But way before they became popular.

Us kids were probably the fore-runners to latch key kids as well.

Sometimes I think that I am over dramatizing things, but then I see the gaping holes in my family’s history. The things that aren’t talked about (maybe because they’re too painful?) or things that are inadvertently brought up and then dropped like a hot potato.

This actually make me think alot of my own family.

reply to post by The GUT
Interesting story Gut! I skimmed over it last night but will give it a thorough going over this afternoon when my brain is a little clearer. The being that appeared to be on all fours intrigues me, especially with what you brought to light about your brother. Thinking about your story will keep me busy today - I'm taking one of my daughters to an appointment so I will have time to consider all of the elements whilst aging in the waiting room!

If you google "alien pictures" "greys" "extraterrestrials" Are there any pictures that look like your 3 monsters ?
Link if possible
S&F

I think I need more proof at this point then just a claim on being something like that. Sorry.

Absolutely astonishing personal account, GUT!!! Thanks so much for having courage enough to outweigh the potential backlash one may receive after sharing such things with others - it is indeed a HUGE leap of courage coming from you. These accounts are GREATLY appreciated more than you know.

... I just knew there was something that had happened in your life regarding these types of experiences based on your past posting history/opinions on similar topics. I guess my GUT feeling told me so! Pun intended.

You're awesome, and I wish you a late, but ever so timely welcome to the club. You didn't ask for it, but I don't think any of us really did.

Regards,

83

What you saw sounds a lot like the grays (even if online pictures don't necessarily match what you describe). I too have seen similar beings of the sort (and others as well) in real life and also in "dreams". I also can relate to what people are saying about seeing blue orbs of light, feeling some things are just out of place, etc. as I myself have seen a lot of what is being described and also felt some things other posters here are commenting on. From what I have heard from some alien researchers (one of whom is actually a friend of mine), orbs of the such are actually extraterrestrial technology (can sometimes be an entity however). The most commonly discussed color orbs or flashes are blue and orange like fireballs (sometimes white). I have quite a few stories I could share here but I'm only going to share a couple (the ones that most pertain to the original poster's initial posts).

When I was camping with my family and my dad's sister's family several years ago in a log cabin we were renting for a week, my dad and uncle went into the basement one night because of electrical problems. This basement door was locked and they had to make some effort to get that door unlocked. The reason it was locked, who really knows but may be it was for a reason. So I went downstairs because I was curious as to what was in the basement. Very strangely enough, I saw on one side of the basement huge holes in the walls (openings really) loaded with coal. This is a pretty strange sight to see honestly (my sister and cousin remember this basement too). I was looking around the basement and was thinking about going towards the openings to take a peek. When I looked in the opening, I saw this really strange, pale and scrawny "person" approach the opening. They had the weirdest eyes ever, which were black and when light reflected in them, I saw a bluish-grey colored "disk". I didn't see the person wearing any clothes (no genitalia was exposed either thankfully ha ha). They seemed to have gotten curious as to who was in the basement. I didn't get a hostile vibe from them, yet at the same time it certainly seemed they wanted their privacy. It didn't seem to me that they intended to actually be seen by anyone and I got the feeling that they wanted me to "behave" and not tell anyone about my having seen them... they ended up walking back into the dark opening and then just "disappeared". VERY strange to say the least.

One night about a couple years ago when I was getting ready to leave my boyfriend's house at the time, we were standing by my car. All of the sudden, I saw this really strange thin (scrawny really), tallish (about 6'4" or something) brown skinned figure with strange colored eyes (an amber color) walk across his front porch. The way it moved was rather "animated-like". It was watching me the entire time it was walking across the porch and into the neighbor's yard. My boyfriend at the time and I both said "Did you see that?" We were both pretty freaked out because we had not a clue what it was really. We ended up standing by my car not moving for like 15 minutes just talking about what the heck we saw and such. I ended up leaving of course eventually but since that night, I just felt like there was something really strange about what I had seen.

Some of what you have described here (to the OP) is similar to things I have seen in the past. I haven't seen any figures in multiples of 3 (sometimes have seen them in pairs and alone primarily). VERY strange stuff going on here...

Originally posted by Spacespider
If you google "alien pictures" "greys" "extraterrestrials" Are there any pictures that look like your 3 monsters ?
Link if possible

S&F

I've never come across anything in the countless "alien" materials I've looked at. Your question along with some things other posters have talked about did have me googling a few different search terms including Egyptian deities and such. No luck so far, but I will dig deeper.

Originally posted by unb3k44n7
... I just knew there was something that had happened in your life regarding these types of experiences based on your past posting history/opinions on similar topics. I guess my GUT feeling told me so! Pun intended.

You're awesome, and I wish you a late, but ever so timely welcome to the club. You didn't ask for it, but I don't think any of us really did.

Regards,

83

Thank you! Funny you mention having made your spot on guess 'cause late last night I was thinking that it probably hasn't been fair for me to comment on anyone else's experience without revealing mine. Although, I don't generally comment on abduction-type accounts, I realize the experience has shaped--to a degree--many of my responses in both the positive and the negative.

I just re-read your thread I Want To Tell My Story and it is an awesome account! Here's a hug for YOUR bravery and a very-well written telling of your story (--------)

Originally posted by talisman
I think I need more proof at this point then just a claim on being something like that. Sorry.

No need to apologize. I do think either the story bored you and you skipped around, or your reading comprehension is a little dulled because I asked no one to believe it and I myself gave reasons why I find it hard to put into perspective.

Originally posted by Kantzveldt
reply to post by The GUT

 

This isn''t a dream as such, it's a series of inter-woven false memories that manifest in support of dream experiance, would be the best way i could describe it.


An example of such is often seen with people who develop seeming dream 'conciousness', in that they also begin to 'remember' times when as a child they would fly down the stairs and such in the dead of night, those memories aren't real, but they serve to reinforce and attempt to make sense of the current experiances.


There are examples were i have dreamt of someone who has died, and in the morning awoken with a whole series of 'memories' of having encoutered and spoken with that person in the period following his death, there is no way to distinguish these from memories that occured in real life.


My consideration would be then that at some point you awoke with an interwoven bundle of memories that presented themselves in the form of a case for you encountering such creatures, even under hypnosis those memories could not be dispelled.

The question then would be when did you receive this bundle, it was unlikely to have been at 6, like i mentioned often the memories are suggested for the formative years to give a sense of deep roots within self understanding, it depends then how far back you could trace actively being concerned and motivated by what you felt you had experienced.

I will add that this is not internal self delusion, that the archetypes that manifest are aspects of a greater spiritual reality, that the thought patterns they have woven serve a purpose.

Confabulation on mystical steroids, eh? Could be something to that, but it somewhat falls apart for me in a couple of ways.

For one thing, I didn't recover these memories later in adolescence, but pondered it frequently, especially from the time of the second incidence.

Then when we start talking about archetypes, we began to blend psychology with the mystical, and if we're gonna go there, why do we need the middle-man of confabulation in a "spiritual" experience?

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed your post and it is food for thought, but I only find in it partial possible answers and not a theorem that can explain all the details.

Originally posted by The GUT

Originally posted by talisman
I think I need more proof at this point then just a claim on being something like that. Sorry.

No need to apologize. I do think either the story bored you and you skipped around, or your reading comprehension is a little dulled because I asked no one to believe it and I myself gave reasons why I find it hard to put into perspective.

That doesn't change the fact it was posted. Correct? In that way I need proof. Listen, ATS is one of the strictest message forums I have come across, I just had a post cancelled today because of a duplicate in another forum. They did that even though the discussion would have been different. So now I am forced to post in a thread I don't even believe in.

Yet, they allow this " I was abducted" -"not asking you to believe" stuff to go on without end. Same story different poster again and again. I have seen this countless times.

People need proof. Its a nice story, but I have seen it over and over again. I am tired of it and I am asking for some kind of proof. That is all.


( REALIZE THIS IS IN THE GREY AREA)
However, I still seek proof. You see my point? Without it, we see the same type of story happen time and time again.

Originally posted by talisman
People need proof. Its a nice story, but I have seen it over and over again. I am tired of it and I am asking for some kind of proof. That is all.

You're still asking for proof?! I don't mean proof of my account--but in general--of something that most of us have learned by now probably isn't right around the corner or in the next thread. That, imo, is rather naive.

No, we share these experiences in hopes of making some sense of them, sure. And, further, I don't believe it's too much to ask that maybe some of us can come to our own personal conclusions, but that's all we can hope for. That and letting others know that they are not alone in their own enigmas.

Sorry about your thread getting trashed, that truly sucks, but it sounds like somebody is a lil' cranky today and might just need a nap.

reply to post by The GUT



Here is what I am trying to say. Maybe I am not good at getting my idea across. By allowing people to say whatever without proof, the same types of things come up over and over again. I am not knocking you personally btw. This is an inconsistency with ATS itself more than it is with you. I realize this is the "Grey Area" type of thing, and it actually encourages people to confess these sorts of things. I don't mind that. What has happened though, is that we see the same things over and over again, yet ATS will censor any other thread if it duplicates another thread even though it is posted in another forum? It happened today to me within 3 minutes of posting something. Obviously something is wrong there.

That is why I need proof. Not because I want to pick on this story and your claim, but because I see the same thing a lot. The same *TYPE* of claim.

reply to post by talisman
Hey, I just checked out your thread list and you have some quality stuff there. I couldn't flag your closed Bin Laden thread, but I was able to give you a star. I'll be digging through some of the others too.

Please, however, reconsider what I feel is a generalization in regards the topic discussed here: Not all the stories are the same in detail, though many share some of the same details to be sure.

I can't say I've never felt the way you do when I read some accounts, but then there are those that seem to engender a deeper dialogue and it's those threads that do hold potential "good" especially for those who have experienced the phenomenon.

reply to post by The GUT
Gut, I thought about your story while I waited for my daughter during her appointment when a thought struck me. It has been supposed that the two more amicable beings were present to possibly "smooth the way" for the third being- the one on all fours who seemed slightly menacing. I wonder if maybe the opposite was true. What if the third being was trying to appear similar to your brother in order to make you feel more comfortable with the other two- to make them seem more trustworthy by having an imitation of a form present that you were more familiar with? In everyday life dealings and negotiations usually proceed much more smoothly if a third party who is familiar to both sides is present to "smooth the way". Just something to chew on.

Gut ole mucka...... can;t say I'm surprised. My apologies as I haven't had time to properly read the whole thread however, thought I'd post a few ideas and see if any strikes a chord.

As we're of a similar vintage and given the cultural gulf between our two childhoods at the time, I am struggling to think of a cultural precedence for the creature on all fours. With that in mind sic, then it does strike me that, the creature on all fours was possibly the summation of your fears, both for your brother and for yourself? Now one can say, well that was a physical, to you anyway, manifestation of your deep fears or, you could say that, your "guide" to the wonderful world of whibble was actually meant to expunge you of your deep seated and subconscious fear and guilt about your brother's situation?

As the good Doc once said... "Time is actually this squirmy wormy thing".. As a kid of 6, days last forever, or at least appear to. Hence, I'm sure there must have been a side to you that was, quite naturally, terrified of being held responsible for your bothers health and life. The upshot being, you'd be, albeit subconsciously, wetting yourself at the prospect of your life being dominated by having to care for another person.. We blokes often have panic attacks when entering puberty as the social pressure of having to be "responsible" begins to bare down on us. It's as if, we really do want to be kids all our lives and the imminent onset of being a "grown up" just totally freaks us out. With your brother's situation there's a good chance that this hit you earlier than many of us. No shame in that and, from my perspective perfectly understandable...

However, back to whibble factor 5. Your social situation and your domestic life, both would tend to you needing to "mature" a little younger than many. Now you can view the happenings as an internal dialogue made flesh by a mind still as yet, unbound by "the laws of science" or. you can say. That was the spirit guide I needed at that time in my life because of my circumstances. The third option would be, a mix of the two and that's the real kicker because, you will forever think..I made it up and yet...hmmmmm...

My take on it, for what it's worth..... "Young Master Gut, the universe needs to have a few words with you as you seem to be developing ahead of schedule..........of course you have freewill ergo, your interpretation and reflections on this experience will be of your choosing". "Bats carry many nasty diseases, their homes pong summat chronic and bees can be a tad bloody minded plus they will sting, however cancer under the microscope, is often the very model of what a human would describe as beautiful. Bats and bees despite their habits and appearance give this world life, cancer does the opposite"...


Thinking about it, there was precedent on kid's TV back then. The episode of Lost in Space where Penny meets the frog, who is a goody yet physically ugly, whilst the rest of the family meet the "Golden Man who is "beautiful" and yet deeply malevolent/empty. had you seen that episode which, might well have been contemporary to your experience, it could well have triggered any number of sub concious thoughts that were relevant to your situation.

What you did learn, very young though was that. There are few answers, just evermore questions? In that sense, the Universe did its' job ?

Anyway, some things to mull over, gotta go it's time for tea with Doctor Strange. ........................... woof woof...................... that's my other dog impersonation.....

reply to post by littled16

Hmmm...deep. You always are. One of the strongest feelings I'm left with, however, even when I'm vetting it in the Psycho-Social model is the dark vibe of the one on all fours. I've tried to fit that into a psychological model as a trauma artifact of empathy for my brother, but he was such a sweet, sweet soul that I can't imagine, so far, the mechanism that ominous vibe coming off the critter might convey other than possibly a representation of disdain for such a cruel disease. But that doesn't seem quite right either.

If we are dealing with actual beings that aren't present here in the same way we are, then Mr All-Fours could indeed represent a Trojan Horse of the type you suggest.

I'm really glad, in spite of my second thoughts, that I did post this. It's been rewarding in a few different ways already. Your input, my much respected friend, included in that.