What is the Greatest Truth?

reply to post by A boy in a dress

Yes we are all looking for the same thing (and we think we will find it outside but it is within), call it peace,God, happiness and we are all looking for it.

To me the greatest truth would have to be that "Only you can prevent forest fires."

But seriously, I'd say that the greatest truth is that only you are in charge of your destiny.

Originally posted by Akragon
We hear a lot about the lies around ATS... the lies in the media, lies from our Governments... from friends and strangers alike

But...

What is to be said about Truth?

Each person's experience in this life is different... Thus each persons truth is different...

It is said that a person holds to his truth... Until a greater truth is found... in which case the previous truth Gives way to the greater truth...

I wonder if we can find the greatest truth collectively?

And perhaps each of us might leave this thread with at least a greater truth then what was once held...

So this is the question I ask of you my dear friends....

What is the greatest truth?

My Answer: Self Realization of the Immortal Soul and it's Qualities via meditation and first attaining the wisdom to understand how and why it must be wielded benevolently. It's humanity's biggest kept secret hidden in plain sight.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


With, appearing appearance, you mean thoughts?

What is the greatest truth?

There is no truth.

Reality is one's perception hence one mans truth is another mans fiction.

Which leaves us to there is no truth.

reply to post by earthling42


I think he means the here and now. The present is always appearing and there is nothing other than what's happening right now, and it is ever appearing only to disappear for another moment to arise in its place.

What is happening right now is the only real truth, and I think that's what he's trying to say.

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Originally posted by Liquesence
One could also say, "The greatest truth is that there is no truth."

But wouldn't that mean that statement is false?

Hence the wink.

And the paradox.

The greatest truth?

We are not here to just live and then die. It does not all start and end on this earth. When we pass from our physical body, something happens, we go somewhere, we move on. We don't "die"

When you look up at the stars and REALLY think about everything you are looking at. Then take in to context where we are, what we are and what on earth we are doing here. What is going on? How can the universe be infinite? What is it, you wonder, that doesn't allow our current minds to understand/comprehend much beyond our planet let alone glaxy?

We are limited, as a species

reply to post by Akragon


Protons have two up quarks and one down. Neutrons have two down and one up. This is a picture of the invariance and symmetry of the Father and Son of the Trinity. In quantum mechanics, all bonds happen in threes. The electron (Weak Nuclear Force) does not follow the laws of symmetry and invariance. Our entire reality is based on this duality of positive in balance with the middle neutral and the negative electron moving from place to place. The ‘Eight-fold Way’ in Physics is then seen clearly by knowing that light is not simply a duality of particle and wave. It is a three-fold cord of particle, wave and consciousness. This is the greatest truth and shows Love over hate by the invariance of law. Go read the Emerald Tablet now and find the third of two becoming one from strong and weak nuclear forces. Science can't figure this out because they deny Spirit (Consciousness) as part of light. The electron does not follow the laws of symmetry. Why is multiplicity found from chaos and how is this chaos moved to invariance and symmetry? Free will depends on the error of the electron. Free will does not necessarily imply that choice must be negative. Once choice is positive, the strand of three allows for unity with multiplicity. How many strands of DNA do we have? How many will we have? Why? What happens when the child no longer needs a Shepherd, but becomes his own Shepherd with no invariance of God's law? What happens when love overcomes the need for law? Gaining the Holy Spirit is our union with the Spirit of invariance instead of the spirit that is fallen into the middle of duality.

Ephesians 4

9 Two are better than one,
because they have a good return for their labor:
10 If either of them falls down,
one can help the other up.
But pity anyone who falls
and has no one to help them up.
11 Also, if two lie down together, they will keep warm.
But how can one keep warm alone?
12 Though one may be overpowered,
two can defend themselves.
A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.

Love covers a multitude of sin and our union with God's Spirit is a three-fold union of strands. Are you particle and wave (Matter)? Yes. Do you have consciousness? Do you have holy consciousness? If not, then you are one against two. When you find your salvation with God, you become a cord of three strands as two makes one new creation. When Abraham was asked to give up Issac, God never intended to take Issac from him. God does not intend to take our individuality from us by asking us to give it to Him first. This is what Faith accomplishes by trusting God in the matter. This is unity WITH multiplicity and unique individuality. How else could God make an image of himself in the form of a different reflection? Otherwise, He simply stares at Himself in a perfect reflection of symmetry. Fellowship requires a unique expression, but requires the eventuality of symmetry and invariability. A house divided cannot stand. God's Kingdom stands.

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
reply to post by Akragon

 

Protons have two up quarks and one down. Neutrons have two down and one up. This is a picture of the invariance and symmetry of the Father and Son of the Trinity. In quantum mechanics, all bonds happen in threes. The electron (Weak Nuclear Force) does not follow the laws of symmetry and invariance. Our entire reality is based on this duality of positive in balance with the middle neutral and the negative electron moving from place to place. The ‘Eight-fold Way’ in Physics is then seen clearly by knowing that light is not simply a duality of particle and wave. It is a three-fold cord of particle, wave and consciousness. This is the greatest truth and shows Love over hate by the invariance of law. Go read the Emerald Tablet now and find the third of two becoming one from strong and weak nuclear forces. Science can't figure this out because they deny Spirit (Consciousness) as part of light. The electron does not follow the laws of symmetry. Why is multiplicity found from chaos and how is this chaos moved to invariance and symmetry? Free will depends on the error of the electron. Free will does not necessarily imply that choice must be negative. Once choice is positive, the strand of three allows for unity with multiplicity. How many strands of DNA do we have? How many will we have? Why? What happens when the child no longer needs a Shepherd, but becomes his own Shepherd with no invariance of God's law? What happens when love overcome the need for law? Gaining the Holy Spirit is our union with the Spirit of invariance instead of the spirit that is fallen into the middle of duality.

Ephesians 4

9 Two are better than one,
because they have a good return for their labor:
10 If either of them falls down,
one can help the other up.
But pity anyone who falls
and has no one to help them up.
11 Also, if two lie down together, they will keep warm.
But how can one keep warm alone?
12 Though one may be overpowered,
two can defend themselves.
A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.

Love covers a multitude of sin and our union with God's Spirit is a three-fold union of strands. Are you particle and wave (Matter)? Yes. Do you have consciousness? Do you have holy consciousness? If not, then you are two against one. When you find your salvation with God, you become a cord of three strands. When Abraham was asked to give up Issac, God never intended to take Issac from him. God does not intend to take our individuality from us by asking us to give it to Him first. This is what Faith accomplishes by trusting God in the matter. This is unity WITH multiplicity and unique individuality. How else could God make an image of himself in the form of a different reflection?

nicely put forward. as above so below. what else is there to say?

reply to post by filledcup

Nicely put forward. as above so below. what else is there to say?

We could give another great truth away. Why are above and below mirrored? How can God know us from beginning to end, yet Himself exist in unity and invariance? Entanglement is the key and quantum mechanics tells us why above and below are the same when it comes to everything outside the states of matter that are changed by human consciousness.

Wikipedia

"EPR (Einstein–Podolsky–Rosen) paradox

Entangled "particles" are emitted in a single event. Conservation laws ensure that the measured spin of one particle must be the opposite of the measured spin of the other, so that if the spin of one particle is measured, the spin of the other particle is now instantaneously known. The most discomforting aspect of this paradox is that the effect is instantaneous so that something that happens in one galaxy could cause an instantaneous change in another galaxy. "

In the Bible, the lesser case and the greater case are entangled. When proverbs states the case for wisdom, it is mirroring natural law. For science to figure our reality out, it will be required to see the Bible as the highest axiom to attain with understanding. The EPR Paradox shows us why.

reply to post by filledcup


Now take it a step further. Come this to what I just said about entanglement.

Matthew 18

18 “Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be[e] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[f] loosed in heaven.

19 “Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”

Are you in the image God created? What do you see when you see yourself in a mirror? You see the image, but you are aware you are NOT the image. If God states in Genesis 1:27 that we are inside an image, what does this imply about our true essence? Again, we find it in Matthew 18.

10 “See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven.

The Matrix and the philosophy of Descartes doesn't seem so off now does it? Of the three I mention as the highest truth, which do the characters in the video represent? Who is Neo (Electron brought into symmetry with both sides)? Who is the Architect (All Knowing)? Who is the Oracle (All Seeing)?

reply to post by filledcup


Notice that the ONE extends across the entire reality in this clip. She then states that Neo is the twin of Agent Smith. When Neo crosses the Matrix and can exist in both worlds, was it necessary for Smith to be on the other side with Him? Yes. When the final battle in Tron occurred, what was the outcome when blue and red touched? Matter and Anti-matter destroyed each other. When Jacob and Esau were on the Island in the show Lost, what story are we viewing yet again? Symbolism of Lost

What truth am I revealing to you here? The very essence of truth. That truth is Three in one; the story of Cain and Able; Esau and Jacob; Christ and Satan and so on. It's embedded in our DNA and expresses in all our works and art. It's THE story.



Forgive me for the poor clip. It's the only one I could find of this scene. I am not sure what video poster means by his link.

reply to post by Akragon


We are all one,
Like the cells in our bodies, one organism.
Death returns us to the one.

reply to post by EnochWasRight


As far as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit goes, which are the positive, negative, and neutral aspects of those three in your opinion?

The positive would be the polar opposite of the negative and the neutral would be a combination of both in this case.

Or better yet, which part of the Trinity is the "neutral" aspect?

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


You didn't ask me, but I'll give my opinion.

Jesus is the positive, God is the negative, and the Holy Spirit is the neutral aspect.

reply to post by Wisdomer


I'm not sure what that has to do with anything I said.

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

As far as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit goes, which are the positive, negative, and neutral aspects of those three in your opinion?

The positive would be the polar opposite of the negative and the neutral would be a combination of both in this case.

Or better yet, which part of the Trinity is the "neutral" aspect?

If there is a parallel to physics, God and the Son would seem to be the Neutron and Proton as a generalization. Both are mirrored in opposites as I stated in the first post. The fact that there are two up quarks and one down (Two down and one up in the other) shows that they are both all three in symmetry that is mirrored. The identity of the positive aspects of nature in balance are obvious. It's the electron that is undetermined in the image and the very reason we have free will as separate creations. The Earth is the Mother / Matrix / Mater / Matter / Womb that we can see as the missing person of the trinity. For mankind to have Spirit, we must be fallen into the womb of the mother. The worm becomes the butterfly in the end. Involution and evolution is the baptism of the Son to rise to new life. The Bible holds the entire story for us to read.

In a family, we might say that they Father and Mother would be the mirrored positives and the Son the negative. Truth is so convoluted that we really cannot know what we are looking at. Our only conclusion can be that we are too dumb to figure it out.

It's a complicated story, but not one that is impossible to see if you know that above and below are entangled in an image. If you know one, you know the other. They again, it's a great mystery and we really do not have the intellect or perspective to answer the questions fully. We can only question our answers and know that there is a shadow to follow on the cave wall. What is the shadow? Who knows?

Luke 10:22, "All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the son, and he to whom the son will reveal him."

The reflections and shadows are the only clues we have.

Here is a Thread I did concerning the fact that we do not know God or the Son yet.

reply to post by dave_welch


You are what ever you believe to be, if judge then your mind will judge you, that why you should have a solid mind. The thoughts you have, are of a positive and negative nature. It depends if you believe it is for good.