NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants - Angry yet?

reply to post by elouina


i won't defend it. because i also have this "SOUL" thing you speak of

but having our phone-calls listened to is no big surprise is it? ..you're already on a conspiracy-type forum.. do the math.. at this stage we can almost just sit back and IMAGINE what else the control structure is doing. everything went tinfoil a few years ago.. the whole world is being bombarded with negativity. you know what i mean.

but what good is being ANGRY? we have to all take a good hard look at how we're going to approach life from now on. they keep facilitating a prison around us with various gadgets and gizmos and we eat it up. you know what i mean.

..when we reference having a "soul" ..(and having an evil soul if one defends this) ..we use those words for a reason. if people focus on their 'soul' instead of their body they will start finding solutions to all this. you know what i mean.

I'm reading through the threads that Obama will be impeached and booted for this. He probably wont. I dislike the guys politics and pov just as much as the next guy. Just sayin the harsh reality of it is, he will do what ever he wants.

Even if he is booted from Pennsylvania Ave. WHO CARES!!! We have Joe "Village Idiot" Biden as the next potus. HA! My christ!!! Screwed seven ways to Sunday. HOPELESS!

If all of this actually does end up reining in this crap, then that'd be good. If it's just an Obama impeachment run-up, then the GOP is going to lose its ass in a way that they can't even imagine at this point. And forever, at that. Like the Wig Party.

This NSA stuff started under Bush/Cheney, and has just gotten worse - or maybe it's just become more technologically able - as a result of not being stomped on by the Justice Department since it started building its infrastructure in the first decade of the new century. I keep in mind that this whole I-spy on American citizens industry was launched by Bush's Patriot Act, and that trillion$ in private sector profits are anticipated by that industry over many decades of govt contracts. I also keep in mind the sketchy circumstances that launched all of this (those 9/11 Attacks), and the fact that when weapons grade Anthrax (as in the 4 letters to Congress and the MSM in the fall of 2001 that were presented as a follow-on attack specifically related to the 9/11 Attacks) is manufactured, the batch would never be limited to only enough to salt four letters, but would be literal pounds of the stuff. And that no one's ever recovered all that bio-weaponry, and that no one's ever been investigated or prosecuted for the 2008 banking theft and subsequent collapse of our entire economy.

In other words, this is just a continuation of the very same crap that Bush/Cheney infected our nation with, and with ongoing impunity even well into the next administration, which smacks of a heavy hand still being present and affecting how our entire federal government operates from the top-down.

This is a conspiracy site. Start looking at the real conspiracy behind all the insanity that's never stopped running us all down since those planes hit the World Trade Center in 2001. That conspiracy hasn't gone away. Why would it. The folks in charge are still running things and making unprecedented profits off us as they do. These international corporate monsters are the new organized crime, but on a white Anglo guy scale that no one's ever achieved in the past.

This all but confirms the claims that Snowden made. Where are the traitors who were calling for the head of this hero? Show yourselves and repent.

This should be shut down immediately, and hands should be cuffed.

I am surprised that the NSA isn't looking at ATS, where as they look at sites like ebaumsworld.

Originally posted by MidnightTide
I am surprised that the NSA isn't looking at ATS, where as they look at sites like ebaumsworld.

Nawww... The NSA is totally unaware of Above Top Secret. Probably need help just remembering the URL.

The Internet Map

They just set up right next door to us because it's such a nice virtual neighborhood to live in.

I've been angry, just wondering when we're gonna stop talking and start responding.


There is lots of talk out there.

reply to post by AQuestion


Your reading comprehension is poor.

Would you like to quote exactly where I said or even inferred that?

I have known from elite troops and Covert Action Quarterly about this since the 90s.I assume any and all content on the internet is compromised as well.They wouldn't allow such a juicy source of intel like the internet to just go unrecorded.
As to being aggravated,emotions get in the way when sizing up an enemy,but they do get to shoot first as a rule.When obvious moves are made and people start getting dead alot as a result of a failed raid,we'll see.

Originally posted by HomerinNC
I'm really wondering wth is going on, I just posted a very eerie experience I had just now on my phone\www.abovetopsecret.com...

Well I mentioned in another thread that I can remember quite a few times where I was talking on my phone and it sounded like someone picked up another line in my house. You could hear the phone line noise.

Anyways, why is this not on any other news pages yet? I mean come on FOX always has this stuff at the very least!

I'm not angry based on this because they have been doing it for years already.

There is a program that the NSA, GCHQ Britain, GCHQ - Canada, GCHQ New Zealand and GCHQ Australia (Essentially the NSA equivalent in each of those countries) participates in beyond Echelon.

Besides being the component organizations of the Echelon Program from each country, they circumvent the laws of their respective home countries on each other's behalf.

NSA may not be allowed to listen in on an American's conversation, but GCHQ can. They then share that information.

This handy relationship has helped them listen in on whomever they like for years.

So. Mad? Sure. But it has been going on for years and people on this board tried to get people to listen and were ignored as conspiracy nuts.

You know, if we cleaned up a bunch of the Nut-bag crap that never used to clog up this site (Alex Jones, David Icke, Truthers etc) perhaps ATS would be taken more seriously again. We could actually make a difference at a time when many of the people here on this site could actually help.

Just a thought.

Where have you been when the NSA has been spying on all the british commonwealth countries for decades, and no one knew this

Project Echelon! google it. Just because the msm does not touch something does NOT MEAN it does not exist. Lots of classfied things exist but you need the proper clearance and need to know to get access and then keep that information to yourself.

But since I have a computer science minor in college I kept up with computers, internet and technology. I read magazines that specialise in such stuff.

reply to post by NorEaster


Look, I'll say it again...when it comes to classified information and national security, exactly the same thing. The Executive Branch has complete control over all such matters (in particular the designation of information as classified or not).


Barack Obama at his recent only-making-it-worse press conference: "If you can't trust the Executive Branch...to make sure we're abiding by the Constitution, then we're going to have some problems here."

Why, yes. Yes, that sounds about right. Quite.

The only question, really, is whether it was meant as a threat.

Obama's other reassuring statement today: "Look, you can't have 100% privacy."

I don't trust them. who trusts them? if Obama makes the statement "look our invasive program is only gonna be an issue if you don't trust us" then he is basically saying "our invasive program is gonna be an issue"


Newsflash: we have a problem here.

Ultimately, whether you're okay with what our Executive branch is doing, it comes down to how much faith you have in the Executive Branch (not the other two), because they hold all the cards. This isn't a partisan issue if you have any sense at all in your head.

Who knows who will have the reigns after the next election. Next time your team might not be in control.

Oh and my biggest problem with Obama right now??? Obama campaigned against bush's patriot abuses... fact.

Why are people mad at Obama for something he didn't do??

The issue here is that the military industrial espionage complex thinks they are above the law, doing "the lord's work", and entitled to all the tax money they can spend.

Until the American people decide to regulate the military and intelligence instead of worshipping them nothing will change.

reply to post by CB328


How many times do I have to repeat myself.

The Executive Branch (that's Obama for those of you who lack basic knowledge of civics) has complete control when it comes to classified information and national security. The buck stops with the president.

reply to post by MsAphrodite


Obama is a puppet. How much common sense does it take to realise it????

Masonry, bilderbergers, royal families, vatican.

Money talks and BS walks. It has ALWAYS been that way, especially when people keep electing "mainstream parties" to represent them. The ptb pay for D and R campaigns. Why do you think greens, socialists, communists, libertarians, constitutionalists, etc NEVER GET ELECTED

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


Hey everybody, look over there!! A squirrel...

next.

Originally posted by CB328
Why are people mad at Obama for something he didn't do??

The issue here is that the military industrial espionage complex thinks they are above the law, doing "the lord's work", and entitled to all the tax money they can spend.

Until the American people decide to regulate the military and intelligence instead of worshipping them nothing will change.

THANK YOU! You have no idea how much faith in humanity I have lost the last couple years. Its almost like talking to mouthbreathing zombies considering how much dumb-downed some folks are. We are not talking aliens or underground bases here. JUST BASIC STUFF that has been semi-hidden.

Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

Hey everybody, look over there!! A squirrel...

next.

Whats your point? I must have missed it.

Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by CB328

 

How many times do I have to repeat myself.

The Executive Branch (that's Obama for those of you who lack basic knowledge of civics) has complete control when it comes to classified information and national security. The buck stops with the president.

Of course he should be impeached, but don't expect to solve much. Its just a moral "victory".