blair 3rd term

do we really need him running the country for another term?

the only reason he was ever elected in 97 was of his hard stance against gun crimes ( by banning them ) didnt make much diffrence apart from streatgangs in urban areas carrying them around and other criminal's.

and other broken promises.


so whats your views on this

GET BLAIR OUT!
put some one else in there!

I know lots of people are going to flame me for this but...

Go Conservatives

No matter what people say they have some great policy's. Remember the stuff they did in the past is in the past, look to the future.

Conservative Party Home Page

You britts need to change your politics, Blair and his "New labour" sucks, and so do you conservatives as well.1.Its pretty much as Republicans and Democrats...both suck.

You need to cut the political rope to USA and 100% join the new fresh union

Originally posted by Kollapse
You britts need to change your politics, Blair and his "New labour" sucks, and so do you conservatives as well.1.Its pretty much as Republicans and Democrats...both suck.

Explain in more detail.

Originally posted by Kollapse
You need to cut the political rope to USA and 100% join the new fresh union

Do you mean the European Union or something else.

Originally posted by Kollapse
You britts need to change your politics, Blair and his "New labour" sucks, and so do you conservatives as well.1.Its pretty much as Republicans and Democrats...both suck.

You need to cut the political rope to USA and 100% join the new fresh union

dont advise us on how to run our country.
that is your opinion not everyone's.
why? we can have a political rope to the US and still get the advantages of the EU.

Originally posted by devilwasp
dont advise us on how to run our country.
that is your opinion not everyone's.
why? we can have a political rope to the US and still get the advantages of the EU.

Well, you got the downside of USA..
They drag you into wars, your PM are a lapdog...etc etc..

[edit on 7-11-2004 by Kollapse]

Originally posted by Kollapse


Well, you got the downside of USA..

really? exsplain how your EU will improve our country?
we went into a war i agree and i must say i did support it at the start, but now i know the whole thing i dont.
we didnt get dragged in we both shared opinions on what to do.

[edit on 7-11-2004 by devilwasp]

Originally posted by Kollapse
Well, you got the downside of USA..
They drag you into wars, your PM are a lapdog...etc etc..

That;s just Blair and the Labour Government, who says the future will be like that.

My problem with the UK politics (this is my persona view and I really dont know half as much about UK than the US for example)

The new labour...is to friendly to the Republicans...and the Conservatives are to Nationalistic...thats why I think they suck...

I simply dont like nationalism.

Correct me if I�m wrong, I'm might be on on thin ice


(drunk on wine

Edit: drunk edit...cheers!

[edit on 7-11-2004 by Kollapse]

Originally posted by Kollapse
My problem with the UK politics (this is my persona view and I really dont know half as much about UK than the US for example)

The new labour...is to friendly to the Republicans...and the Conservatives are to Nationalistic...thats why I think they suck...

I simply dont like nationalism.

Correct me if I�m wrong, I'm might be on on thin ice


(drunk on wine

Edit: drunk edit...cheers!

[edit on 7-11-2004 by Kollapse]

nationalism is ok, i mean whats wrong with thinking your country is good, it really depends on how far it goes.
why dont you like repulicans?

Nationalism and patriotism is next to racism..


Why I dont republicans...Republicans are conservatives, and conservatives equals nationalism, strong military force, traditional family values (wife, husband, child), strong laws etc...
Thats why.

Originally posted by Kollapse
Nationalism and patriotism is next to racism..


Why I dont republicans...Republicans are conservatives, and conservatives equals nationalism, strong military force, traditional family values (wife, husband, child), strong laws etc...
Thats why.

UK and US Conservatism is different, US Conservatism is more right wing.

Patriotism is no way near racist, it is not racist to love your country.

Originally posted by UK Wizard

UK and US Conservatism is different, US Conservatism is more right wing.

Patriotism is no way near racist, it is not racist to love your country.

Patriotism and Nationalism is the same thing, Its just a new word.

Originally posted by Kollapse
Patriotism and Nationalism is the same thing, Its just a new word.

people think Nazis, war, death, horror evil when they see these two words....its lies and mis-information.

Just like the political spectrum - left wing, right wing, moderate
nationalism has a spectrum, at one end their is hatred for other countries at the other end there is pride in your country and its people (no matter their origins).

Originally posted by UK Wizard
Just like the political spectrum - left wing, right wing, moderate
nationalism has a spectrum, at one end their is hatred for other countries at the other end there is pride in your country and its people (no matter their origins).

Yes, and i guess, you find more patriots and nationalists in the right side of the spectrum...And I really do think...that nationalists hide them self behind the word patriotism

[edit on 7-11-2004 by Kollapse]

Originally posted by Kollapse



Yes, and i guess, you find more patriots and nationalists in the right side of the spectrum...And I really do think...that nationalists hide them self behind the word patriotism

[edit on 7-11-2004 by Kollapse]

well thats what you think.

Originally posted by Kollapse
Yes, and i guess, you find more patriots and nationalists in the right side of the spectrum...And I really do think...that nationalists hide them self behind the word patriotism

Once again your implying that nationalists have something to hide, i'm a patriot, but i'm not a racist.

Are you also implying that right wing is wrong???

Originally posted by devilwasp
well thats what you think.

Yes, Im pretty sure, And one thing that I am also sure about is that the UK left is like the EU center. Thats on reason why your left wants to join and your conservatives (right) dont wanna join EU

Originally posted by UK Wizard

Once again your implying that nationalists have something to hide, i'm a patriot, but i'm not a racist.

Are you also implying that right wing is wrong???

Yes, I think right wing politics are doomed along with the rest of humanity