The identity of Melchizedek (Melkhi-Tsedek).

Rabbi DeNoon lays down who and what the Melchizedek is, spoken of in Genesis 14:18-20 and Psalm 110:4. This Melchizedek has no mother, no father and is eternal (has no end of days).

The Coming of Melchizedek
Dead Sea Scroll: 11Q13, Column 2

(...) And concerning what Scripture says, "In this year of Jubilee you shall return, everyone f you, to your property" (Lev. 25;13) And what is also written; "And this is the manner of the remission; every creditor shall remit the claim that is held against a neighbor, not exacting it of a neighbor who is a member of the community, because God`s remission has been proclaimed" (Deut.15;2) the interpretation is that it applies to the Last Days and concerns the captives, just as Isaiah said: "To proclaim the Jubilee to the captives" (Isa. 61;1) (...) just as (...) and from the inheritance of Melchizedek, for (... Melchizedek), who will return them to what is rightfully theirs. He will proclaim to them the Jubilee, thereby releasing them from the debt of all their sins. He shall proclaim this decree in the first week of the jubilee period that follows nine jubilee periods. Then the "Day of Atonement" shall follow after the tenth jubilee period, when he shall atone for all the Sons of Light, and the people who are predestined to Melchizedek. (...) upon them (...) For this is the time decreed for the "Year of Melchizedek`s favour", and by his might he will judge God`s holy ones and so establish a righteous kingdom, as it is written about him in the Songs of David ; "A godlike being has taken his place in the council of God; in the midst of divine beings he holds judgement" (ps. 82;1). Scripture also says about him ; "Over it take your seat in the highest heaven; A divine being will judge the peoples" (Ps. 7;7-8) Concerning what scripture says ; " How long will you judge unjustly , and show partiality with the wicked? Selah" (Ps. 82;2), the interpretation applies to Belial and the spirits predestined to him, because all of them have rebelled, turning from God`s precepts and so becoming utterly wicked. Therefore Melchizedek will thoroughly prosecute the vengeance required by God`s statutes. Also, he will deliver all the captives from the power of Belial, and from the power of all the spirits destined to him. Allied with him will be all the "righteous divine beings"(Isa. 61;3). (The ...) is that whi(ch ...all) the divine beings.

The visitation is the Day of Salvation that He has decreed through Isaiah the prophet concerning all the captives, inasmuch as Scripture says, "How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of the messenger who announces peace, who brings good news, who announces salvation, who says to Zion "Your divine being reigns"." (Isa. 52;7) This scriptures' interpretation: "the mountains" are the prophets, they who were sent to proclaim God`s truth and to prophesy to all Israel. "The messengers" is the Anointed of the spirit, of whom Daniel spoke; "After the sixty-two weeks, an Anointed shall be cut off" (Dan. 9;26) The "messenger who brings good news, who announces Salvation" is the one of whom it is written; "to proclaim the year of the LORD`s favour, the day of the vengeance of our God; to comfort all who mourn" (Isa. 61;2) This scripture`s interpretation: he is to instruct them about all the periods of history for eternity (... and in the statutes) of the truth. (...) (.... dominion) that passes from Belial and returns to the Sons of Light (....) (...) by the judgment of God, just as it is written concerning him; "who says to Zion "Your divine being reigns" (Isa. 52;7) "Zion" is the congregation of all the sons of righteousness, who uphold the covenant and turn from walking in the way of the people. "Your divine being" is Melchizedek, who will deliver them from the power of Belial. Concerning what scripture says, "Then you shall have the trumpet sounded loud; in the seventh month . . . " (Lev. 25;9)

Ofcourse according to scripture there was no Man to intercede as according to Isaiah 50 and Isaiah 59 at this time. So who became the Intercessor?

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

Is not the question answered more straightforwardly in Hebrews ch7?
That having no known beginning or end, and no known earthly origin, he was the model for the "eternal priesthood" of Jesus?
A "king of righteousness" indeed.

dude,
these death cults you belive in are the creations of demented, inorganic alien awarenesses.
read it carefully!
righteousness to that thing is the opposite of what you think it means.

Not so, not by any means. Aliens seeking to destroy the human race would just continue on with "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" and not bother with teaching us to "treat others the way you would want them to treat you" (Luke 6:31). Treating others the way you want to be treated, is a better way, a higher teaching.

Originally posted by DISRAELI
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Is not the question answered more straightforwardly in Hebrews ch7?
That having no known beginning or end, and no known earthly origin, he was the model for the "eternal priesthood" of Jesus?
A "king of righteousness" indeed.

Yes, but jews wouldn't recognize that. In as much as this is for christians who want to know and haven't yet figured out that mystery, this is also for jews who suspect this is who he is, and who secretly in their hearts do believe, and for anyone else who wants to see where he was from the beginning.

Originally posted by DISRAELI
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

Is not the question answered more straightforwardly in Hebrews ch7?
That having no known beginning or end, and no known earthly origin, he was the model for the "eternal priesthood" of Jesus?
A "king of righteousness" indeed.

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A great passage for me is in Hebrews 7:

4 Just think how great he was: Even the patriarch Abraham gave him a tenth of the plunder! 5 Now the law requires the descendants of Levi who become priests to collect a tenth from the people—that is, from their fellow Israelites—even though they also are descended from Abraham. 6 This man, however, did not trace his descent from Levi, yet he collected a tenth from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises. 7 And without doubt the lesser is blessed by the greater. 8 In the one case, the tenth is collected by people who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living. 9 One might even say that Levi, who collects the tenth, paid the tenth through Abraham, 10 because when Melchizedek met Abraham, Levi was still in the body of his ancestor.

---The tenth is collected by people who die. Then, Levi, the Earthly Priest, was still in the body of his ancestor Abraham at the time Abraham paid a tenth. In other words, the nation had not yet been born. This hints at baptism and the significance of the statement: "You must be born again." There are deep mysteries and we lack the middle information to know what is stated here.

11 If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood—and indeed the law given to the people established that priesthood—why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? 12 For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also.

---The law of perfection is being reborn. That law changed by the new priest that takes the sacrifice upon himself. Levi, as the descendant of Abraham, was still in the body of his ancestor when he paid his tenth. What does it mean to pay a tenth? Again, a mystery pertaining to our walk toward salvation and the transmigration of the soul through involution and evolution. The law of sacrifice has been changed to mercy.

There is much to be deciphered in Hebrews for sure. Consider this passage in 1 Corinthians 10: Mystery of Moses

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

oh, the jews new who the zaddakim were all right, they were a freak cult of suicidal war mongers that were under the mind control virus that these aliens (your melchizedec) were spreading.

reply to post by EnochWasRight

If paying a tenth meant to kill someone in some cases then maybe we are here to suffer and die ten times? Those verses make it sound as though it was a favor to pay to someone out of respect. It certainly goes against many other teachings so maybe we do not have all the info like you said? However from what i have found out about the spiritual side of things it seems to fit.I am more interested in the other ways one would have paid a tenth and how they could relate to the spiritual side of things.

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The Order of Levi couldn't pay the price for Salvation, the Melchizedek had to pay that price because he is above all things under his dominion.

That 1/10th (offering) was not Levi's to pay.

The question is, how do you settle a debt, when those indebted to you cannot pay it? You are forced to eat their debt or take their life as payment. Jesus ate our debt when he drank the world's sin, that is the job of the Highpriest, to be a sin eater. The Levite priests also played a minor function for this role, when the people would come to make their sacrifices, the priests had to eat their portions of their people's sin.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
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The Order of Levi couldn't pay the price for Salvation, the Melchizedek had to pay that price because he is above all things under his dominion.

That 1/10th (offering) was not Levi's to pay.

The question is, how do you settle a debt, when those indebted to you cannot pay it? You are forced to eat their debt or take their life as payment. Jesus ate our debt when he drank the world's sin, that is the job of the Highpriest, to be a sin eater. The Levite priests also played a minor function for this role, when the people would come to make their sacrifices, the priests had to eat their portions of their people's sin.

Good words. It's also worth noting that the Son of God is being raised in the wilderness by God. Like a body with many nerve endings, we are a microcosm of the body of Christ on Earth. Each of us are being raised by Christ as our Shepherd. We are produced as fragments of His soul (Body / Church) and represent one loaf of bread. In essence, Adam (Mankind) is the offspring of the Son of God.

Luke 3

the son of Noah, the son of Lamech,

37 the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch,

the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel,

the son of Kenan, 38 the son of Enosh,

the son of Seth, the son of Adam,

the son of God.

Where does the Genealogy start? With the Son of God. God raised the Son as the firstfruits of the rest of mankind. The Son then is raised himself by being the Father raising the children. God's work above descends below through a chain and sequence of repeated patterns in nature. The children then raise their own children and so on as the tree of life repeats, allowing seeds to fall back to the ground where it starts. Eventually, the tree is burned and the fruit is kept. It's a refinement process and it all returns back to God in reverse order from where it started as the snake eats the tail. Renewal comes from beginning, middle and end.

Truth is Emet - Hebrew - Aleph (Beginning) / Mem (Water) / Tav (End / Two Crossed Sticks)

The water (Baptism) is in the middle before we reach the conclusion. Christ is one both sides taking us across the Jordan. It starts in Egypt and ends in Paradise.

By this picture, Levi paid while still in the body of his ancestor Abraham. Within Abraham's seed contained all of the nation of Israel, including Levi. Abraham paid Melchizedk the dowry on the bride as the Father. The Bride was waiting for the groom to come (Messiah). What happened along the way? The bride became a harlot and the Fig tree did not bear fruit. Christ came as planned, but found his bride asleep and not watching. What releases the bride from the groom? The groom must die, therefore releasing the bride from the union. When Christ died on the cross, the sins were released and a new covenant was set for a new bride.

Romans 11

11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. 12 But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their full inclusion bring!

Who is the Bride? The entire world. Gentiles are personified by Jonah and the work in the waters of baptism to regenerate the secret behind Moses in the wilderness. The entire world is the bride of Christ. The bride must still watch, wait and bear fruit. We must turn from our harlotry with Egypt. Hidden Mystery of Moses

reply to post by EnochWasRight

Who is the Bride? The entire world.

Ah no, the body of believers is the Bride, which is the Body of Christ. This is played out in the symbolism of Adam, whose wife was taken from his own body, from a covenant that required his blood be spilled to bring forth his wife, and is payed out by Jesus Christ in which his blood was spilled to bring forth his Bride from his Body.

Right. I meant the church, but that it encompasses the whole world. John 3:16

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
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Who is the Bride? The entire world.

Ah no, the body of believers is the Bride, which is the Body of Christ. This is played out in the symbolism of Adam, whose wife was taken from his own body, from a covenant that required his blood be spilled to bring forth his wife, and is payed out by Jesus Christ in which his blood was spilled to bring forth his Bride from his Body.