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How can you apply three months in advance when the Bilderberg Group does not publish its intended locations and so they are only uncovered close to their meetings?
This is, in effect, a ban on the festival and there is no right of appeal. Objectors to it going ahead included Hertfordshire police.
What the police and the council should now take into serious account is the anger and outrage there will be among the thousands who were planning to be there at having their right to peaceful protest against a sinister and despicable organisation denied by the same police and council that are licking the arse of the Bilderberg organisers. Yes, sir, no, sir, G4S, sir.
Any protest is now confined to a tiny area near the entrance to the Grove Hotel and what if very large numbers of people who have had enough of the tail wagging the elephant turn up at the entrance to the Grove Hotel itself en masse?
Originally posted by Nevertheless
You could always arrange the protest in a fixed location that is associated with whatever their trouble is, regardless of when any other event might occur.
I like the way "peaceful protest" is mentioned many times and now saying that violence might be appropriate.
It's never appropriate.
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
the peaceful protest has been banned at the last minute, leaving thousands of travellers with no festival to attend.
It is logical to assume there could be problems- the sheer numbers could see many move to the actual Bilderberg meeting itself.
Originally posted by Nevertheless
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
the peaceful protest has been banned at the last minute, leaving thousands of travellers with no festival to attend.
It's unfair to called it banned if it has not been approved prior.
In fact, they arrangers could be very aware of this and simply made it appear to the crowd that the Festival is legit, and now they have a "reason" to rage against an innocent part, as it's easy to take their side from a moral point of view, especially if ignoring facts.
It is logical to assume there could be problems- the sheer numbers could see many move to the actual Bilderberg meeting itself.
What stops them from being peaceful? Are they animals?
And if they are, they should attack the one's who "arranged" the festival.
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
If your first point is correct, which it could be, then that would be an interesting development.
However, this planned peaceful protest has effectively been cancelled by the council who say not enough planning permission was given. This has been a last minute decision.
As to whether it would be peaceful, we would hope so, but the police and security will react negatively to hundreds of people descending on an actual Bilderberg meeting
Originally posted by crazyewok
Well seeing as our police are rarely armed and the ones that are cant fire guns on crowds of people (well I guess there is a always a first) I think if thousands marched peacefully on the Bilderberg meeting it could be intresting.
Originally posted by Spiro
Originally posted by crazyewok
Well seeing as our police are rarely armed and the ones that are cant fire guns on crowds of people (well I guess there is a always a first) I think if thousands marched peacefully on the Bilderberg meeting it could be intresting.
Until they pull in the riot police to deliberatly cause a scene?
Spiro
Originally posted by Nevertheless
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
If your first point is correct, which it could be, then that would be an interesting development.
It is, you quoted it:
However, this planned peaceful protest has effectively been cancelled by the council who say not enough planning permission was given. This has been a last minute decision.
So, the arrangers have lured in the people even though they hadn't received an OK in time.
It was also stated that the time to get those permissions were so long that they couldn't choose the right location in time. So, the arrangers were clearly aware of this.
This is an easy trick for those who are planning something that they wish to become a riot (for publicity) and angle it to seem like it was someone else's fault. Which is easy if there is a crowd that already feels mistrust towards the other part.
As to whether it would be peaceful, we would hope so, but the police and security will react negatively to hundreds of people descending on an actual Bilderberg meeting
Yes. Mostly everytime that it is possible to see entire footage of riots, the "peaceful" demonstrators do everything they can to harass the police "peacefully". As in standing inches from police officers staring at them and saying "I'm allowed to do this, you know".
The police is there to keep peace and shouldn't be involved in this, but they too are human and it requires a simple move from one of the officers who'd had enough that those "peaceful" people who've been harassing the police to take "real action" because the police "started it".
While police violence is to be taken seriously, I'm not seeing anything strange with the events I described above. It doesn't matter if you harass a police officer or a random guy on the street, eventually you will get punched in the face, and I think that is well deserved. Legal or not.
I'd be more worried if instead of people with mobile phone cameras go up to random police officers and try to harass them until they get punched "on camera" (which they deserve even though it's wrong), that it was the norm that police officers did the same. That is, went up to random people to pick up fights. THAT is the police violence that is troublesome.
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Originally posted by Wonderer2012
Bilderberg protest to go ahead, on the actual meeting grounds!
How many people can fit on the Grove grounds, things could certainly get crowded now the protest is now allowed to go ahead- on the same site as where the actual Bilderberg meeting is taking place!
A first in history and a very interesting time indeed.
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
Bilderberg protest to go ahead, on the actual meeting grounds!
How many people can fit on the Grove grounds, things could certainly get crowded now the protest is now allowed to go ahead- on the same site as where the actual Bilderberg meeting is taking place!
A first in history and a very interesting time indeed.
If this goes ahead it would be great. It looks like the British weather will be nice for any outdoor events this weekend. It seems to be In a good spirited nature. Fancy dress and pic nics.
If you're going to Watford as a genuine protestor take a bicycle if possible, be unpredictable and flexible.