Toastman's Tarot readings

reply to post by Tribunal

Then what woud this potential punishment from the Holy Spirit, that is meant to "guide you on your path", consist of?

Do you not see every day in society what happens to people who act against Good Will? The destructions they bring to their own lives with the hurt caused to those around them?

This world is a mess and sadly it is going to get a lot messier and violent. The Holy Spirit has already rewarded me with that knowledge in order that I prepare in Him for the greater storms ahead. And I too am called to prepare others in advising that they cleave to their only means of spiritual Protection---through the Love and Obedience towards our Creator who can Renew and Restore in Healing and Deliverance our sickness in mind, body and soul.

reply to post by PrimeLight


Don't you ever get tired of living inside a box? All that fearmongering is bad for you. Stop being afraid and start living outside the box. Failing that, don't drag us into your box with you. We're free. You're not. Just because you choose to live in thrall to your fear doesn't obligate us to humor your ignorance. If you're not here for the card game, then go find a religious thread to practice your regurgitation skills on.

reply to post by PrimeLight

Do you not see every day in society what happens to people who act against Good Will? The destructions they bring to their own lives with the hurt caused to those around them?

Thanks for showing your backward reasoning.

You were talking about a punishment from the holy sprit as a warning for people that were indulging in "evil", like a tarot card reading.

So god wrecks peopl's lives to prevent them....wrecking their lives?

That's your logic.

If that can be considered "logic".

reply to post by Tribunal

So god wrecks peopl's lives to prevent them....wrecking their lives?

It appears my prior explanation was not comprehended, so I will put it more simply: Our Creator allows us to be our own worst enemies in behaving like the (insert profanity) we often choose to act like. He then let's us get our silly butts kicked by the powers of wickedness we choose to lean with so that maybe, just maybe we can learn from our disgraces and turn to Him in the Good Spirit He expects us to aspire to, being made in His Image.

reply to post by AfterInfinity

Don't you ever get tired of living inside a box? All that fearmongering is bad for you. Stop being afraid and start living outside the box. Failing that, don't drag us into your box with you. We're free. You're not. Just because you choose to live in thrall to your fear doesn't obligate us to humor your ignorance. If you're not here for the card game, then go find a religious thread to practice your regurgitation skills on.

What box? Who is afraid? Presume much?

Only a slave could believe he is free in this world.

reply to post by PrimeLight

Want to thank you for being relatively polite and I do not aspire to ruin your thread, but only share what I felt compelled to in a genuine caring for the many young and impressionable who too may feel these tools are simply harmless fun. They are not and I pray the Holy Spirit makes that clear to all, even if via a punishment if Deemed necessary, as it was in my case.

This is what you said.

You pray to the holy sprit that the many young and impressionable people that think that a tarot card reading is harmless fun, have it made clear to them that it is not at all, even by punishment, which you later describe as,

Do you not see every day in society what happens to people who act against Good Will? The destructions they bring to their own lives with the hurt caused to those around them?

So you pray that this happens to people?

Sick dude.

I don't see how I am supposed to take anything positive from your comments, not only do you apperently pray for the misfortune of others, you seem to suggest that everything bad that happens in a person's life is a punishment from god for something bad they did, like a tarot card reading?

How is that a positive image for this god? You do something bad and he makes it worse, as a punishment, even during life? and then you still have to go to hell after?

Holy excrement!

I think you people tend to get cought up in your own religious rethoric.

Understandably, it simply doesn't make sense so.

reply to post by Tribunal

I was well aware you were questioning me not in a sincere genuine seeking of our Father, but moreso inspired in a 'fault finding' mission. You then proceeded to take my statements out of context to apply new meaning either deliberately or simply based on a failure to comprehend plain english. I can only hope the plain english will make sense to other genuine readers/seekers who aim not to distort my words and then untruthfully re apply them toward a sinister intent.

You pray to the holy sprit that the many young and impressionable people that think that a tarot card reading is harmless fun, have it made clear to them that it is not at all, even by punishment

At least this was accurate.

So you don't believe that wicked deeds should be punished/reprimanded for opportunity of rehabilitation? Disturbing if you should think not.

Originally posted by PrimeLight
reply to post by Tribunal

 

So god wrecks peopl's lives to prevent them....wrecking their lives?

It appears my prior explanation was not comprehended, so I will put it more simply: Our Creator allows us to be our own worst enemies in behaving like the (insert profanity) we often choose to act like. He then let's us get our silly butts kicked by the powers of wickedness we choose to lean with so that maybe, just maybe we can learn from our disgraces and turn to Him in the Good Spirit He expects us to aspire to, being made in His Image.

edit on 2-6-2013 by PrimeLight because: (no reason given)

Uhuh...uhuh, but this makes no logical sense.

If you act like a dick, you tend to get treated like a dick and whatever other grief comes from it. There is no god needed to give that punishment, because the grief is a natural effect of being a dick.

We let ourselves get out our butts kicked when we do stuff we shouldn't do because of cause and effect.

We either learn from it or don't.

There is no god needed in this specific scenario.

I ask you to give me a specific example of such a punishment from the holy spirit.

reply to post by PrimeLight

At least this was accurate. So you don't believe that wicked deeds should be punished/reprimanded for opportunity of rehabilitation? Disturbing if you should think not.

First of, I though only god was allowed to judge others. I'm sure he doesn't need you to pray for others to get punished in a grave way like you described, for a tarot card reading. So you get punished during your life and you still have to go to hell afterwards?

Besides the obvious circular logic in your reasoning, I find it to be sick and twisted, almost evil up to the point of tyranny.

I can only hope the plain english will make sense to other genuine readers/seekers who aim not to distort my words and then untruthfully re apply them toward a sinister intent.

I asked you your definition of divine punishment then qouted the answer.

My conclusion was the only one possible based on the words you wrote.

I didn't distort a thing.

I just showed the absurdity of your reasoning. If you don't like that then don't be absurd.

reply to post by Tribunal

We let ourselves get out our butts kicked when we do stuff we shouldn't do because of cause and effect.

Cause and effect of what?

Are you implying 'good and evil' which acknowledges the duality of a right and wrong?

And how do we determine what is right and wrong? Is it something we feel within? Where does that 'feeling' come from? How did the consciousness of being form?

So you get punished during your life and you still have to go to hell afterwards? Besides the obvious circular logic in your reasoning, I find it to be sick and twisted, almost evil up to the point of tyranny.

Hmmm appears you do take issue to the idea of punishment---so by such 'logic', why don't we then release all the pedophiles, murderers, rapists, sadists and all the other 'lovely' demonically infested sick repeat offender types like that in our society out of prison so that we are not being 'tyrannical' towards them. That surely would be a swell world even better than it is now.

And a point of note, there are the laws of the land and the Laws of Heaven, and at times they can be at odds in terms of what is deemed punishable and how. And please don't assume that I believe the view of souls being tormented in fire for eternity. I don't though I get the impression you have placed me in a 'religious fundie' box like other judgmental folk who know nothing about my background, nor what I have been directly Shown via a Spirit rejected by many, who then wonder in ignorance why it does not show itself to them for their lack of faith. Spiritual Blindness is the due reward for a lack of faith paid in full.

reply to post by PrimeLight

Cause and effect of what?

Is this really that hard to get?

You are talking about a cause and effect situation were, you do something bad, which is the cause, and god punishes you, which is the effect.

Still with me?

I say that if you steal, the cause, you might go to prison, the effect. Is this because of god?

If you do a lot of drugs or booze, you might lose your looks, your job, your car, your house, your spouse. Is this because of god's punishment, or simple cause and effect?

Or is your definition of god's punishment that a guy murders a man and gets away with it, and then a few weeks later his son dies.

If it is, then your god is quite a dick himself.

Please, give me such an example, cause I'd like to know.

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reply to post by PrimeLight

At least this was accurate. So you don't believe that wicked deeds should be punished/reprimanded for opportunity of rehabilitation? Disturbing if you should think not.

Why would you even focus on praying for punishment if you could pray for strength for these people to stay away from the perceived threats so they don't need to be punished?

The whole psycholgy behind it is just sick. you are so brainwashed that you can only reason from a viewpoint were the puny disobedient human needs to be punished into submission to god's will.

And all this over a tarot card reading?

Not a positve thought there.

Why not pray for them to have the insight and strength to not make a mistake?

Really sickening group of people.

Thanks Toastman for the readings! Its very cool for you to take time and do this. Sorry that this thread is starting to remind me of my Navy days at the airports dodging "Hare Krishna" folks

Good luck!!

reply to post by Tribunal

Why would you even focus on praying for pushment if you could pray for strength for these people to stay away from the perceived threats so they don't need to be punished?

You keep persisting in the spirit of distortion and then go on to falsely accuse in a personal judgement. A shame you were brought so low to resort to such in a clear spite to an unwanted message.

the puny disobedient human needs to be punished into submission to god's will.

And it is more than clear that your faith is so dead that you do not even understand that He actually Knows what is best for our Positive soul progression to Lead His flock in a Good Way, moreso than our limited consciousness can at times comprehend.

My warning is there for all to see, now make your 'free' choices folks and may we all ultimately reap what we sow Hallelujah.

reply to post by PrimeLight

You keep persisting in the spirit of distortion and then go on to falsely accuse in a personal judgement. A shame you were brought so low to resort to such in a clear spite to an unwanted message.

Let me guess, the devil made me do it?

So are you going to give an example of this divine punishment you pray for, or not?

reply to post by Tribunal

So are you going to give an example of this divine punishment you pray for, or not?

I'd rather go to sleep and smile at the thought of just how much you will be brought to your knees in the future. I can tell who the people are that need it most and your arrogance will be humbled I assure you.

I don't need to resort to personal attacks with no basis, because in faith and trust I know Justice is delivered to those with a wicked intent in their hearts.

And before you get any fancy ideas, I don't 'desire' any harm to you, only that you be Humbled as He determines---it just is what it is and does by all appearances seem you will bring such consequence to yourself by your choices and your anti- Christ spirit of contention. So lap it all up son and laugh while you still can 'afford' to do so. And that applies to all others who foolishly do not Love nor fear their Creator who bears the Power to both Create and Destroy, uprooting all wickedness in the purging to come via many means.

reply to post by PrimeLight

I'd rather go to sleep and smile at the thought of just how much you will be brought to your knees in the future. I can tell who the people are that need it most and your arrogance will be humbled I assure you.

But that is exactly what I accused you of.

You come across as a total sociopath if you ask me.

Amazing how these religious freaks show their true colours after they are confronted with their ridiculous selves, and have no other option than to threaten their agitator with their god's wrath.

If I deserve it then smite me, oh mighty smiter!

reply to post by PrimeLight

I'd rather go to sleep and smile at the thought of just how much you will be brought to your knees in the future. I can tell who the people are that need it most and your arrogance will be humbled I assure you.

You sound like you could use a slice of humble pie yourself. No Christian should ever take delight in the judgment and subsequent suffering of their fellow man. Where's the love? Where's the forgiveness? The understanding?

Get off your soapbox and stand with the rest of us mortals, you unabashed hypocrite. This is why I don't believe in eternal life for the human species. We simply do not possess the maturity or emotional capacity to comprehend the full implications of such a gift - and in less than half the time such immortality would give us, we would either return the gift or prove we are unworthy of it.

You shame your Christian brothers and sisters. Now if you're quite finished making an ass of yourself, you are off-topic and should cease your ramblings in favor of allowing the intended festivities to continue. We are having a card game, if you don't mind.

Good day and adieu.