My recent experiences meeting the feminine God. And the new 'Gospel of Simon'.

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That's what free will is about. You have the free-will to make that choice for yourself.

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It's not free-will if I'm being forced to do something against my will with threats of eternal torture.

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That's not against your will. You just made it clear that you CHOSE to keep your own will and not submit to God's.

I don't understand how people have a problem with this knowing that it will lead to heaven and an eternal life of joy without sorrow, pain or sickness. If everyone's living in perfection and perfect justice, why would we care who's authority we're under?

Originally posted by Deetermined
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As someone who's a follower of Ishtar, what more can you tell us about her and why you have chosen to follow her?

Ishtar is the Babylonian iteration of who I truly follow. I view most of what is written about her by the Babylonians (or anything post-Sumer, really) much like you would view extra-biblical Christian sources. I say this because most of what you would probably cite about those gods are not sources that I would believe in beyond enjoying them for what they are; fascinating mythology.

As far as why I chose to follow her is probably very similar to why many Christians follow the Christian god. I was called to her. The saga is long and if it weren't for the near promise of scrutiny by fellow ATSers, I'd make a thread on detailing my journey to finding her path. I would also say that my religious path of witchcraft and my adherence to Inanna are mutually exclusive. I have a religious connection to earth and the mythology that surrounds her divinity but spiritually and divinely, I am beholden to Inanna and her various aspects.

She speaks to me. Sometimes through her harbinger (who is my patroness) and sometimes very literally, with words both spoken and written. Through ritual, I have seen her as she expresses herself to me. The relationship is very close and her blessings are surreal. Since my identifying her, my life has been blessed in such amazing ways and, in turn, is now allowing me to help others as is my passion. I hope that's detailed enough for you but the vagueness is a result of it being like a crack in a dam; the more you pick at it, the more water comes flowing forth.

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What have you been taught about the afterlife through Ishtar?

Originally posted by Deetermined
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What have you been taught about the afterlife through Ishtar?

What I know of the afterlife wasn't learned exclusively from her. What I know of the afterlife is that there are entire categories of flora and fauna that make up the wildlife of the other side. There are also many sorts of demons (angels), people, and what some would call gods. None of these things are categorically good or evil. The "other people" have the same penchant for being jerks or nice people as we do. Perhaps even more extreme.

Think about our in-between life state as a constant struggle to gain wisdom and temperance. When we enter into our contract and bodies, we live through a filter that mutes and transforms our true selves. We are very much influenced by our chemistry and limitation where, outside of the flesh, we are unchained and unfiltered.

What I learned from my goddess, however, is that love and compassion in dark and melancholic places shine with a light so delicate and gentle that it can't be seen in the light. There are those on the other side that do crave solace and comfort. Not because of past sins but because of incredible loss. I don't know if this is because of some lesson they are putting themselves through or if it's a result of true loss. These ones come to us for aid and security. And we can help them. Perhaps they are in an infancy stage or simply trying to learn compassion but they are appreciative.

It's a jungle on the other side. With the full range of emotions we have here. Even your Abrahamic god is said to have made us in their image. But one thing I want to make a distinction of is that I do not believe in that side as "death" and this side as "life". It's simply another way to be.

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Can you explain for us a little more about the blessings you feel like you've received in this life as a result? How are your beliefs allowing you to help others, as you previously described?

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by BornOfSin

 

I assure you everything that the second coming of Christ, his 111 disciples, their 1,111 children and 11,111 grandchildren are about to do on this planet is for love and the good of all man.

He will be seen as the antichrist and crucified for his actions once again.

It will only be when all truths are revealed that you will realise what has transpired, why it needed to be so and why it was written to you as such.

You do realize that this is exactly the kind of deceit that Jesus warned us all about?

Jesus already told us that the Anti-Christ with his lying signs and wonders would come before his second coming. Why do you think he warned us of that?

Satan would love nothing more than to have you believe that Jesus needed to be crucified for a second time.

This time it will be Satan instead.

Once again you are not listening to what has been said.

When 'Jesus' was crucified, it was not the first time which he had been crucified.

It has happened many, many times before.

What make you think this time will be any different??

You have ears, yet you do not hear.

..

This is going to be much harder than I thought.

Originally posted by deadeyedick
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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op this thread covers the means in which satan finds those that are willing to go against GOD. It is a method they use to find the right mind to find their false messiahs,prophets and antichrist. It is a way of at the least marking you for future use. In your case you seem to want to take it to the extreme with them. I urge you to accept that Jesus was here and died for our salvation. Jesus already has a vessel and it is not you or your innocent son. Do not drag him through your weakness. Stand up and deny these curses they are putting on you and dwell with GOD.

I never said it was me or he .. I am trying to work out what the hundreds of compounding "co-incidences" (although there is no such thing any more. Probability sequences are too limited for 'co-incidence' any more. Hence why the cycle is about to start again.) keep throwing these things at me every day.

I don't know ANYTHING for certain, I am just doing my very best not to lose my soul at the moment

.. But don't you ever assume to know what I should do with my son.

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Once again you are not listening to what has been said.

When 'Jesus' was crucified, it was not the first time which he had been crucified.

It has happened many, many times before.

What make you think this time will be any different??

Hebrews 7:26-27 “For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.

Hebrews 9:28 “So Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. . .”

Hebrews 10:10 “By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.”

Hebrews 10:12 “But He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God”

Hebrews 10:14 “For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.”

I know that you believe that some of the scriptures are wrong (which I don't), but what can you offer us in the way of explanation? Why would Jesus need to be crucified more than once in your opinion?

Even if you try to tell us that this is only one cycle of life here on earth, why would God keep replenishing the earth for people to keep sinning and making the same mistakes over and over again, just to have Jesus die over and over in return? What sense is there in that?

Originally posted by Deetermined
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Can you explain for us a little more about the blessings you feel like you've received in this life as a result? How are your beliefs allowing you to help others, as you previously described?

You keep asking me these short questions and I keep giving you long answers. I have a feeling that you are just fishing for a particular response that you can jump on. So let's just pretend I said whatever that was and then respond accordingly because I don't feel you are truly interested in my path and are just waiting for some catalyst.

But a quick answer to your question is the same as you would expect from your god. Financial blessings, blessings of skill, blessings of intuition, a sudden increase in esoteric potency, and being placed in situations where I'm able to be used to benefit the people around me. And, arguable the most important, a greater understanding of love, compassion, and the wisdom surrounding both.

Originally posted by arpgme
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Isis is a parallel to Mary.

They are both virgin mothers giving birth to the son of God.

Jesus is a parallel of Horus.

King of Kings
Alpha and Omega...

Same old story written again and again...

This does NOT mean that Jesus isn't real - it simply means that the stories have a strong Pagan influence whether people want to admit it or not. By the way, even most of the holidays have a Pagan influence...

It means that this is a cycle that repeats every few thousand years.

The same soul of Jesus takes up a host of someone who proves themselves to be truly worthy.

It has happened millions of times before on this planet and will happen again now.

Just as I have stated ..

The 'second-coming' is actually more like the '2-Millionth coming' in actual truth.

He will be persecuted and crucified just as he has been every time before .. Then from the ashes men will weep at what they have done.

This is as certain as it has happened every time before.

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by BornOfSin

 

Once again you are not listening to what has been said.

When 'Jesus' was crucified, it was not the first time which he had been crucified.

It has happened many, many times before.

What make you think this time will be any different??

Hebrews 7:26-27 “For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.

Hebrews 9:28 “So Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. . .”

Hebrews 10:10 “By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.”

Hebrews 10:12 “But He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God”

Hebrews 10:14 “For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.”

I know that you believe that some of the scriptures are wrong (which I don't), but what can you offer us in the way of explanation? Why would Jesus need to be crucified more than once in your opinion?

Even if you try to tell us that this is only one cycle of life here on earth, why would God keep replenishing the earth for people to keep sinning and making the same mistakes over and over again, just to have Jesus die over and over in return? What sense is there in that?

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Please don't quote scripture to me until you have opened your ears to what I have written.

I tell you I have more to teach you and in response you throw my teachings back at me?

You represent those so blinded by the old, that you will never see the new Christ.

He will bleed for you and you will still not believe, for you believe more in his words than their meaning.

You live in the world your God has given you. You eat of him daily, you drink the water he has provided.

He is in you and yet your eyes see only his word.

I will pray for you my friend. I also already forgive you for the stones you throw and the path you are about to take.


To respond to your next question:

Your God is male, I refer to him.
My God is female, I speak for her.

You think when Jesus spoke to his Lord as 'My God' he was speaking of himself?

Christians have been blinded from the truth of their own writings.

This is why the need to be re-written and why a great deal of Christianity and Christians will be stripped of their rights to wear such a name.

It will be necessary to promote the truth from the perverted versions of the texts given to you by the Romans and who were driven by the deceivers to conceal the real truth within the Gospel out of their own greed and want for power.

I will see this truth brought to you all as I have been chosen to do.

Whether you drink of the truth when the cup is offered to you will be entirely your choice.

But the sages have returned. The new prophets already walk the Earth.

All needs be written again, as it is every cycle ..
The world, its truth and the food for mans soul need be renewed.

Those will resist this again as they do every cycle

But this will happen. I have seen it come to pass.

I know She will come forth to claim her thrown for mans enemies be much more powerful now.

Most who live through the disasters about to befall this planet, may live long enough to fight its war.

The war of the coming of false Christs.

Islam will fall, Rome will stumble

The new Christ will be betrayed by the Vatican and will fall accordingly.

His death will bring forth armies of heaven.


I have seen this all.
We already know the demons well.
We have been conditioned to them for many many years.
They are coming.
Rome knows this, they keep an eye out for them.
Their portal passes as black as the centre of galaxy, so it cannot be seen.

They will know nothing until the hammer is falling upon them.
They will bleed the saviour of this Earth to try save themselves
And he will allow it to happen, as it must.
As it has always happened, and will happen again in several thousand years from now.

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I'm not fishing for a particular response. I try to do research on all of the gods and religions to become knowledgeable in each one, but as far as yours, I have never found enough information to satisfy my questions as to what the "meat" of it was all about. It seems like I only find surface information. Another reason I'm so curious is because this is a particular following that I rarely, if ever, see discussed on ATS. Thanks for answering my questions and feel free to add anything else you think would help us to understand it better.

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Please don't quote scripture to me until you have opened your ears to what I have written.

I tell you I have more to teach you and in response you throw my teachings back at me?

You represent those so blinded by the old, that you will never see the new Christ.

For starters, if you want to come across as being plausible, you have to work with the EXISTING information given and then counter it. So far, all you seem to do is say "listen to me", "listen to me". You can't take teachings that are 2,000 years old and then claim that you have the new updated version without an explanation for why each and every teaching needs to be replaced. I guess we can assume that patience and humility aren't part of passing your 40 day/night test.

Take a look at how GOD sends these female spirits to deceive the ones that do not choose his kingdom. Those female spirits can best be described as heavens bouncers. This is what happens the more you become attached to their deception. The guy that owns does rituals everyday and has even vowed himself to her to an end that only destroys many souls from salvation. Jesus does not get sacrificed or martyred any more. This is delusion they have fed you. Wake up brother.

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You think when Jesus spoke to his Lord as 'My God' he was speaking of himself?

Sometimes, I think you underestimate the makeup and power/ability of God.

1 John 5:7

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

John 1:1-2

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

John 1:14

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. (Jesus)

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All needs be written again, as it is every cycle ..

But, this isn't the next cycle, is it? You're talking about rewriting something that's already been written during this cycle.

It might have helped you to at least read and familiarize yourself with what you're trying to rewrite.

Revelation 22:18-19

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

reply to post by BornOfSin

The war of the coming of false Christs.

That would be the Anti-Christ. The one who will be dealt a fatal injury and yet return to life making everyone think that he's God. This must be why you think "Jesus" is the one going to die again.

Revelation 13:3

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by BornOfSin

 

All needs be written again, as it is every cycle ..

But, this isn't the next cycle, is it? You're talking about rewriting something that's already been written during this cycle.

It might have helped you to at least read and familiarize yourself with what you're trying to rewrite.

Revelation 22:18-19

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

I know the Gospel better than you will ever know it my friend I assure you.

You step far beyond the boundaries of your knowledge.

You feel you know more about the teachings of your book than those who wrote it?

This cycle is about to end. The book is being written for the next cycle.

You need pray that you will be of heart to see this.

For as it stands you continue to throw stones on matters you cannot attest to.

Proverbs 18:13:

He that answereth a matter
before he heareth it,
it is folly and shame unto him

Gospel of Simon corrected version

Whoever speaks on a matter they know nothing about,
Is a fool and shall be proved as such.

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