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Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by BornOfSin
The war of the coming of false Christs.
That would be the Anti-Christ. The one who will be dealt a fatal injury and yet return to life making everyone think that he's God. This must be why you think "Jesus" is the one going to die again.
Revelation 13:3
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
“Again, therefore, Jesus spake to them, saying, 'I am the light of the world; he who is following me shall not walk in the darkness, but he shall have the light of the life.' - John 8:12”
“Put your trust in the light while you have it, so that you may become sons of light." When he had finished speaking, Jesus left and hid himself from them. - John 12:36”
“While I am in the world, I am the light of the world. - John 9:5”
“Then shall your light break forth like the dawn, and your healing shall spring up speedily; your righteousness shall go before you; the glory of the Lord shall be your rear guard. – Isiah 58:8
“He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him. He was not the light, but came to bear witness about the light. The true light, which enlightens everyone, was coming into the world. – John 1:7-9”
“Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Salt and Light
13 “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.
14 “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
Jesus telling you that another will be the light of the world. That you are looking in the wrong place for your salvation from what comes.
God loves you and forgives you and wanted me to pass on this to you:
“Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
Why do you think through their own foolishness they thought they could cover up Jesus being crucified again, and again, and again and again.
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by Cuervo
I'm not fishing for a particular response. I try to do research on all of the gods and religions to become knowledgeable in each one, but as far as yours, I have never found enough information to satisfy my questions as to what the "meat" of it was all about. It seems like I only find surface information. Another reason I'm so curious is because this is a particular following that I rarely, if ever, see discussed on ATS. Thanks for answering my questions and feel free to add anything else you think would help us to understand it better.
Originally posted by WashMoreFeet
reply to post by BornOfSin
The New Testament was written in Greek.
You sit on a "throne", a baseball is "thrown".
As you denigrate Dee for quoting scripture in this thread, you may want to consider that the burden of proof necessarily lies upon the one claiming 2000 years worth of literature has been misunderstood by countless men and mistranslated hundreds upon hundreds of times.
You are the one re-writing the Book. The argument lies on what has been given to us through scripture, scripture that you conveniently re-word to suit your argument. It's almost laughable.
We are all given one chance, thus this is the first rodeo for you and I both. Reincarnation is a lie. As entropy reaches equilibrium, the total possible number of outcomes for the random event increases. Which means it does not repeat. Surely you are aware of this.
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by BornOfSin
God loves you and forgives you and wanted me to pass on this to you:
“Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
I don't know why you need to pass that on to me. I don't need to see Jesus' wounds to believe that he died so that all of us could have eternal life with him.
You do realize that Thomas referred to Jesus as God here, right? He's basically calling him "My Lord" (my master) and "My God".
John Chapter 10
“When he puts forth all his own, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice. A stranger they simply will not follow, but will flee from him, because they do not know the voice of strangers.”
No, it is only your lack of understanding, or admittedly possible my bad explanation, but I feel it's the former. Let me try this again. Please be aware that in future I am only going to explain things once for you all. If you do not hear what is being said, then you will need to examine your method of hearing, not my method of delivery.
I do not want to hurt any feelings.
Originally posted by InhaleExhale
reply to post by BornOfSin
I do not want to hurt any feelings.
Then maybe save your judgements of others as that may hurt some feelings,
You know calling one evil for questioning you.
Is that what happened to you when you questioned the system of belief you were raised in?
Please don't quote scripture to me until you have opened your ears to what I have written. I tell you I have more to teach you and in response you throw my teachings back at me?
Originally posted by InhaleExhale
reply to post by BornOfSin
Please don't quote scripture to me until you have opened your ears to what I have written. I tell you I have more to teach you and in response you throw my teachings back at me?
Your teachings?
Scripture are your teachings?
Yahweh is that you?
I know the Gospel better than you will ever know it my friend I assure you.