Women don't like quiet males. (They prefer alpha males who are all bullies)

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Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
Wow it's amazing how judgmental the betas in this thread are.

No wonder women don't want you, when you come off being such a hater they can tell and that doesn't translate to anything positive in their minds. They like motivated outgoing guys, and you cannot be that type of guy, at least not in the aspects that they are attracted to, without being confident.

It's all really simple but I see so many of you talking about "love", news flash, it doesn't exist. Attraction exists. "Love" is a form of psychological dependance. It's something that desperate people use to latch onto another human being. Ever notice how desperate people lacking confidence are always quick to fall in love should the occasion arise? Ever wonder why women are so turned off when you fall so hard so fast? It's scary, it's not love, it's psychotic.

There is no Alpha or Beta, there is only ego. The one with the larger ego may land more women, but he will never land just one. The one who lets go of his ego to pursue love will find just one. It is the man who finds one love that has been blessed. For the man who has many women proves that he has yet to learn how to love. Since women love by nature, it would be a man's job to learn to cater to their nature.

But instead most men cater to their own ego, thus making love an impossibility.

reply to post by sacgamer25


Ha ha ha...the man who finds love is "blessed". I don't think so pal. Humans are not monogamous, we love adventure and new experiences. Fairy tale style happily ever after soul mate mumbo jumbo is basically a lie, or at least nearly impossible of ever finding.

Trying to possesses another human being, which is really what love is all about, is heinous. People will use the word love to their relationship more serious, to take it to the next level. It's really all fear based.

Married people, in general, unless they are newlyweds, are miserable....that's a plain and simple fact.

Let me ask you this first off. Are you female? I am guessing your not. So why do you choose to assume that you know exactly how the inner workings of a woman's mind are?? You stuff a lot of assumptions into your post which I have to say I am going to guess you have confirmed based off what reality tv, the movies? A run in with someone your crushing on who didn't return the feelings?

Second, seriously unless you have a degree on biology just stop really. Nothing in life is as simple as what you are trying to make this argument out to be. Relationships between the sexes is not as simple as a biological need for an "Alpha" male. This may have been true when the human species dwelled in caves but it's not know.

Third, This whole Alpha Male Beta Male thing is BS. There is no such thing. Let me repeat that for you there is no such thing unless you are part of a wolf pack or a lion group. You're not an animal so stop basing everything in such black and white terms. Stop watching movies and reality tv and actually get out in the world.

I think what this whole thing boils down to is your own inherent problems with yourself that you refuse to face or admit too.

Go take a long look in the mirror because I am going to guess that you have serious issues with yourself emotionally and or physically. Which if that is the case no wonder your single, woman can smell that radiating from a guy like 5 day old funk.

Also why are you concerned with what a woman is supposedly attracted too? Life is far to short to worry about who likes you and or doesn't like you or why you can't attract so and so. Get out live your life as yourself not some made up image that MSM tells you to be.

Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
reply to post by sacgamer25

 

Ha ha ha...the man who finds love is "blessed". I don't think so pal. Humans are not monogamous, we love adventure and new experiences. Fairy tale style happily ever after soul mate mumbo jumbo is basically a lie, or at least nearly impossible of ever finding.

Trying to possesses another human being, which is really what love is all about, is heinous. People will use the word love to their relationship more serious, to take it to the next level. It's really all fear based.

Married people, in general, unless they are newlyweds, are miserable....that's a plain and simple fact.

Anyone who is misserable has choosen misery, simply because they have not loved. For anyone who chooses love will find it.

Originally posted by KeliOnyx

Originally posted by Jepic
I find people that say "confidence is everything" to be quite superficial. To any genuine relationship worthy person, confidence should not even be a factor. What really matters is personality, character, and views on life. And of course physical appearance.

If you know people that reject other people because they are not confident, be assured they obviously didn't care about you in the first place. If you care about confidence, you really only care about who other people will see you around with.

"Confidence"... Such a pointless quality when it comes to LOVE.

Confidence has nothing to do with the ability to love something or someone.

CHECK YOSELF! REALITY CHECK!

edit on 21/5/13 by Jepic because: (no reason given)

Wrong if you have no confidence in yourself your personality, character and views on life are well, going to pretty much suck. Physical attractiveness will only get you so far before all your other shortcomings start coming into play. Face it if you are not confident in who you are, no one else is going to want to be with you. There is a reason pity parties are a solitary affair.

My best friends are all shy people. I can tell you their personality, character and views on life are top notch. They are really literate too. And they are all in happy relationships.

Heck I'm shy too. Confidence has nothing to do with personality, character and views on life.

I'll take it to the next level and tell you that most geniuses have been introverted people with social issues. It seems Tony Stark is not the rule of the day.

Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
reply to post by sacgamer25

 

Ha ha ha...the man who finds love is "blessed". I don't think so pal. Humans are not monogamous, we love adventure and new experiences. Fairy tale style happily ever after soul mate mumbo jumbo is basically a lie, or at least nearly impossible of ever finding.

Trying to possesses another human being, which is really what love is all about, is heinous. People will use the word love to their relationship more serious, to take it to the next level. It's really all fear based.

Married people, in general, unless they are newlyweds, are miserable....that's a plain and simple fact.

Maybe in your "neighboorhood" because in my circle married people couldn't be happier with their lives.

reply to post by Jepic


You are confusing being extroverted with confidence. The two are not mutually exclusive as has been said in this thread time and time again. It isn't I or anyone else that is wrong here it is you. At some point your married friends were confident enough in themselves to talk to another human being and engage in social behavior. Just like my own shy introverted husband did. Being quiet and reserved have zero impact on your level of confidence.

Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
reply to post by sacgamer25

 

Ha ha ha...the man who finds love is "blessed". I don't think so pal. Humans are not monogamous, we love adventure and new experiences. Fairy tale style happily ever after soul mate mumbo jumbo is basically a lie, or at least nearly impossible of ever finding.

Trying to possesses another human being, which is really what love is all about, is heinous. People will use the word love to their relationship more serious, to take it to the next level. It's really all fear based.

Married people, in general, unless they are newlyweds, are miserable....that's a plain and simple fact.

I'm sorry to read this post, because its so jaded and cynical.

Love is not about possessing another person. Love is simply sharing life experiences together. It's having someone to watch beautiful sunsets together and share that moment. It's having someone you can trust and who you know is your life's foundation.

I've been married to my husband for 8 years now, and it truly is wonderful.

reply to post by sacgamer25


so one's only options are love(nothing short of a psychological disorder that likely leads to misery), or misery.

People who "love" are so short sighted.

reply to post by Jepic


yeah right, exactly what I'd expect a married person to say in a public forum. Everyone knows married people are miserable, this is no secret, stop playing games. Grow up.

reply to post by liquidsmoke206


Love to many people is an emotional investment in another person. If you don't understand that it's fine, but not everyone feels the same way about the concept of love.

Arguably genitalia isn't that far different from partner to partner, so for many people having multiple partners all the time is useless. You may invest your emotional energy into one person whom you share a sort of sexual friendship with. You are monogamous with this person because you see in them the qualities you find worth investing in. Sex to you is more enjoyable with someone you respect and admire(love) as opposed to just a short spurt of sexual enjoyment(multiple partners, one night stands).

Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
reply to post by Jepic

 

yeah right, exactly what I'd expect a married person to say in a public forum. Everyone knows married people are miserable, this is no secret, stop playing games. Grow up.

Clearly you don't understand love between two partners.

Calling someone a liar and telling them to grow up because they understand a concept you have t yet experienced, is both juvenile and egotistical.

reply to post by smyleegrl


well I love sharing life experiences with lots of people, one is boring. My version is natural human inclination, marriage and "love" are flimsy ideas. Am I jaded and cynical, hell yes. You have to be to see the truth.

Again you're a married person in public forum saying you're happily married, Why even say that, no one can possibly know if you're serious. The entire statement is moot.

Why is it that married people one on one, loosened up with a drink or two are suddenly miserable? Particularly men.

As usual I make perfect sense, everyone else is making politically correct statements, but since I sound insensitive, and jaded, etc etc , well then I MUST be wrong. No, just because you don't like what I'm saying doesn't make it false. Everything I say is spot on. That's just something you'll have to deal with.

reply to post by LadyofGlass

Love to many people is an emotional investment in another person. If you don't understand that it's fine, but not everyone feels the same way about the concept of love.

Precisely, love is different to everyone. I could even have my own version of it but I hate to even use the term to describe even the best of things because the "love" that I observe would appear to be nothing but a totally unhealthy, desperate interest in another human being.

Arguably genitalia isn't that far different from partner to partner, so for many people having multiple partners all the time is useless.

Ha, I might argue that statement, but I'd actually like to say besides genitalia, it's really more the person's personality, skills, and yes their body too, but it's an overall interest in that person. And the idea that many people have amazing qualities, if you weren't so monogamous you'd possibly learn to see how amazing so many people are. And you might stop assuming things like just because relationships are short that they are somehow disrespectful? It's a horrible assumption to make about my character and I think you've only done it to make me seem in your own mind a worse person, and therefor easier to convince yourself that I'm "wrong." You'll have to try harder than that now won't you?

Clearly you don't understand love between two partners.

reply to post by smyleegrl


and clearly not a single person on Earth can explain it in a way that makes sense, so they just bliss out and drown in romance. Love doesn't exist. Period.

Calling someone a liar and telling them to grow up because they understand a concept you have t yet experienced, is both juvenile and egotistical.

I call em as I see them, and given the content of the posts I've seen in much of this thread, I have every right to be egotistical. I've experienced your concept from many points of view, I've analyzed it. Your concept of love is stifling to the individual spirit.

reply to post by liquidsmoke206


You keep arguing for the sake of arguing. Nothing in my post was an assumption or a generalization, it was an example of a differing viewpoint.

I have had many partners throughout my life of different sexes and backgrounds. I am currently in a monogamous relationship and I prefer that type of sexual relationship. I like having my best friend as my sexual partner. I like spending and sharing our life together. That's me, how you are or what you enjoy is your thing. I don't know what your sexual or emotional life is like, and frankly I do not care. My point is that for many people having multiple sexual relationships all the time is pointless from a sexual and emotional level.

I call em as I see them, and given the content of the posts I've seen in much of this thread, I have every right to be egotistical. I've experienced your concept from many points of view, I've analyzed it. Your concept of love is stifling to the individual spirit.

reply to post by liquidsmoke206


How so?

As usual I make perfect sense, everyone else is making politically correct statements, but since I sound insensitive, and jaded, etc etc , well then I MUST be wrong. No, just because you don't like what I'm saying doesn't make it false. Everything I say is spot on. That's just something you'll have to deal with.

Ahh, I get it now. You're the only one qualified to determine the truth in other people's experiences.