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Originally posted by Bleeeeep
reply to post by below
The way I think of djinn is that they are the same exact thing as demons, but to hear a Muslim tell it, "not all djinn are bad." I think the reason they think they're not the same thing is because demons are very deceitful.
Also, Solomon was able to control them because he had some kind of ring given to him from God. The average person cannot control them, they can only use Jesus' name to rebuke being possessed. That is of course, unless they make a pact with them through magick. Magick is basically a ritual offering to enter a pact/receive blessing from a demon/fallen angel - it is like trading favors. The least of the offering would be gratitude and the worse would be horrific - but all is for their favor.
Any ATSers with any experience with Djinn?
Originally posted by superluminal11
Let you in on a secret
A jinn crashed the 747 in Afghanistan. Theres a whole bunch of them that are fed up with the weak minded and the rulers they serve.
Id prob go on vacation and not do anything for the next 200 years. Goes for all the rulers as well.
the average person cannot control them, they can only use Jesus' name to rebuke being possessed. That is of course, unless they make a pact with them through magick.
Originally posted by Haxsaw
as mentioned the jinn are good and bad, the catch is only the bad really interact with humans as one of the many tests for jinn in their life is to not interfere/interact with human matters, the good ones stay concealed while the evil ones(demons/devils/efreet/etc) attempt to interact with humans in whatever form they perceive the human/s they are interacting with will be most vulnerable to. The evil jinns aim; to misguide humans away from the worship of the ONE TRUE UNSEEN GOD, thus the abundance of false gods throughout the history of mankind, the jinn come along and take some shape to sucker in the vulnerable and tell the people that they are their god/s.
Originally posted by Bleeeeep
reply to post by CrypticSouthpaw
I think you're mixing fallen angels (aliens/reptilians/shapeshifters/gods) with demons (mighty ones/giants/titans/nephilim/demi-gods).
While I will believe a fallen one might have came to pay you a visit, the story he gave you describes things you know of in today's terms. That's what they do - they use terms you have already empowered, and thus they describe things with your terms in order to deceive you. Just look at all the ancient cultures. They all described their gods as the things that each of the cultures had empowered - that is why all the gods are so different in appearance and abilities. However, Yahweh wouldn't do that. He wouldn't describe himself as an alien, nor refer to all the different beings you're addressing (angels or fallen angels), as reptilian, pleiadians, greys - nor would he say things in human terms like dark energy, and all the modern day understandings of space, galaxies, and planets. He would say he is God, not an alien, and he would describe the angels by what their role was, or what their proper name was (cherubim, seraphim and archangels or Michael, Gabriel, Lucifer, etc). He would put things in his terms, not yours. That was a fallen angel whom came to you, read your mind, and then proceeded to make you believe the dark is the light and the light is the dark. Do not fall for that.
Originally posted by Misbah
Originally posted by Bleeeeep
reply to post by below
The way I think of djinn is that they are the same exact thing as demons, but to hear a Muslim tell it, "not all djinn are bad." I think the reason they think they're not the same thing is because demons are very deceitful.
Also, Solomon was able to control them because he had some kind of ring given to him from God. The average person cannot control them, they can only use Jesus' name to rebuke being possessed. That is of course, unless they make a pact with them through magick. Magick is basically a ritual offering to enter a pact/receive blessing from a demon/fallen angel - it is like trading favors. The least of the offering would be gratitude and the worse would be horrific - but all is for their favor.
Totally wrong, the reason we believe that there are good jinns and and jinns is because Allah mentions it in the Quran. He also mentions that we were created in the purpose to worship none but Him. Just like humans Jinns have rules to abide by, but their way of life is totally different because we can't see them.
Muslims are not delusional by saying that some Jinns are good, just like some humans are good some Jinns are good. If all jinn were bad, that would make their life pointless. They have a free will just like me humans have, some fight to deceive humans while others worship God in peace.
One cannot be healed from possession by calling upon Jesus's name, that's a total waste of time. Only the God of Jesus can heal heal humans, that is Allah the Lord of the universe. There are numerous prayers that are to be recited on the person that is possessed so that the prayers may invoke fear into the hearts of the Jinn and make them leave. The prayers and verses from the Quran you read talk about a day when everyone will be accounted and punished for their sins. It talks about hell and paradise and why the Jinn should not harm the human being. Some Jinn do turn muslim and others just leave to come back another time or harm another human being.
There are three verses in the Quran that are to be read in order to be protected from Magick, Jinn and possession etc. One must have a strong bond with Allah and maintain it so that he may keep you safe. Allah is lonely the guardian of all humans.
What I think is really awkward is that most people do not even believe that Jinns exist, as if possession isn't even real. The weird voices, weird movements and very inhuman and flexible movements. The fact that someone can talk another language without knowing a word of the language isn't really interesting. You can't deny that existence of Jinn, but on the other hand that's what media is doing. They're telling us that Ghosts or Jinns do not exist and that's it's a myth. Denying the existence of Jinns is a great sin and that makes you a lot weaker to them. Now they may attack you without you knowing of their existence. And you'll eventually listen and follow every word they whisper in your ears.