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Athanasius Kircher's ATLANTIS map meets Google Earth

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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 04:30 PM
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An interesting selection of film from the archives, and all informative of the fact that Germany surrendered, but the Nazi command did not-so technically they can attack at anytime

New Schwabenland holds a secret, and it is where the 4th reich (Black Sun) will come from. In addition to the brilliant mentor of Von Braun, the high-command transferred their esoteric investigations to the South Pole to continue their research and combining its knowledge with science to make advances and breakthroughs that would advance their plan

In the present it is believed that the government has transferred a subterrene (or more) down to the south pole, and their appears to be an uneasy alliance down on the bottom, with the surface nations maintaining distance from Queen Maudsland

The anti-gravity technology is easy to reproduce and can be applied to transportation and for moving large objects by reducing the gravitational force on their mass, and the US Space command has incorporated this technology into the design of the TR3 series, and other special technology

The difference from the ships that (Hanobu/Hinobu) are they can operate in three conditions, sea, air, and space, and the ISS and SOHO satellites continually record their comings and goings from the planet

Many of these are identified as UFO's which they rightly are, because the US does not want to reveal their technology, nor do they want to expose the fact that the Nazi's never surrendered and disappeared and now they have prepared for the 4th Reich to begin, and according to records will begin when the signal of the Black Sun occurs

The project research identified the different elements of Satanists, Luciferians, Khazarians, Masons, and Danites to understand the agenda and their plans, with the full knowledge that all of them will have to meet the Nazi's whose Blitzkrieg includes dropping the ice shelf to inundate the entire coastal regions of all countries that face the Atlantic waters

We have produced a dissertation that will be included in the public release of the project that covers an extensive amount of information from US, German, Russian, Argentinian, Chilean, and Finnish archives that will reveal the attack plans for the Masters of the Earth (claimed by the Nazi doctrine)

If you would like to see some samples or be notified when the public release is available go to our youtube channel click here

You can see the samples of our Atlantis is Antarctica that demonstrates it was the land of the Giants who were called the Nephilim and who were ruled by a King Nimrod, and the story is well known that they suffered a cataclysm that dispersed these Giants around the world, and the megaliths are evidence of their presence, knowledge, and strength-because every engineer we have provided our weight, size, and source locations concur that present technology cannot reproduce the feats that were accomplished in their building click right hereclick right here

August Day



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by eleven44
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I believe THIS is what the other poster is referring to.
Obviously there is a lot of debate about the credibility of the photos and evidence.
Considering I do not personally know anyone involved with the research and have only seen/heard what has been presented to me via this magical screen...my opinion is still out to lunch.
edit on 18-4-2013 by eleven44 because: (no reason given)

Boom!!! Nice bit of backup there. VNF



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 06:03 PM
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As you are aware 6 months after birds mission returned from Antarctica seismographic equipment detected a large earth quake at the south pole,. Is it not possible that the Nazi base was nuked by the US at that time to prevent further development of a rogue atomic power.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 06:05 PM
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That site is a spam hive do not go there.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 06:43 PM
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For those who suspect Antarctica as Atlantis, found this pic.

www.panoramio.com...

If that's cave it means there was flowing water there once, I'll bet there are some cool things in it.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 06:59 PM
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Many of the videos shown have added content, but even if they are embellished the fact remains that rocket and gravity research were located at the South Pole

There is alot of claims coming out of Tierra Del Fuego, and they all pertain to ships coming out of the sea and streaking upwards in the sky

There also exists a large contingent of Chileans who have seen the ships flying over the waters and heading south

The archivists available through CENIC represent a large body of planetary and physical sciences, with references and surveys produced in the previous century

Some of these references reveal the claim made by the Nazi command for the survey and claim of the land, and review of early images reveals that the aerials of early intelligence show stills of a landing operation on Antarctica

The documents we obtained from archivists in the EU reveal surveys, and elevation maps that conform to the standards of cartography and could not be a forgery

In addition there is a powerful energy stream that is accessible at the south pole, and there exists reports of an energy weapon being used that precedes the modern interpretation in film and movies

Being unaware is accepted, but knowing that something could affect the future, requires everyone to consider the potential consequences that could affect their country and their way of life

Too many examples demonstrate that it is better to be aware, and the body of evidence concludes that a country has been claimed at the south pole, then it must be inhabited by its citizens

August Day



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by spannera
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Therev were several pillars of hercules. There was one if i recall corectly on the bosphorus near troy,


Thanks Spannera I didn't know that, however as to the pillars of Heracles connected to the legend of Atlantis mention is made of the ocean beyond which men rarely sailed this would not suggest the Bosporus which was well known and Atlantis is a good phonetic fit with Atlantic: Atlantis thalassa (Greek: Ἀτλαντὶς θάλασσα; English: Sea of Atlas)
en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 05:58 AM
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Right on, Spiritual Architect. Right on. Great thread and good job putting it all together you've really brought the fire with you!

It's clear sunken cities dwell on this earth and have for a WHILE:

Gulf of Khumbat City of Dwarka
Yonagina
Tartessos
Atil



Paulina Zolinski from Russia discovered 30 Geometric stone structures 33,000 below sea level off the western coast of Cuba.

I've seen the map you've displayed before, it's interesting and peculiar the triangular-shaped land mass only slightly distorted from ancient times, and yes it appears Google maps indeed shows this underwater mass in it's entirely, only submerged.. Coincidence? No, I agree with you it was there and is still there but submerged... Is it for sure Atlantis?

People will still claim that Atlantis is near Greece or the Bermuda Triangle. Perhaps, perhaps not, IMO people tend to mix up all the lost underwater ruins together into one heap and incorrectly associate one with another because of lack of knowledge, forgotten knowledge or disinformation throughout the years.

According to Plato, Atlantis sank in only one night. *shrugs* Perhaps, Perhaps not. Just throwing that in there.

Read into Titan Goddess Asteria if you want, Greek Mythology shines a lot of light into what our world may have been like, including specific references at times if you research deep enough into it .

There's also the 500+ foot, 2 football fields in length megalithic &! geometric structure off the coast of Japan that has been discovered. It's said to be over 13,000 years old, which if I did my math right would have made us a cave-dwelling species at that time, right?


Many claim underwater cities only date back 7-13 thousand years ago, but we are also finding they may date back anywhere to 32,000 years or more.

Ancient sangams from India describe ancient cities

Knowing this, keep in mind less than 5 percent of our ocean has been explored still to this day
Think, 10 years from now, will you be remembered in history, and That's only 10 years. Do you remember every single toy you played with when you were a child? Even some of that memory has already been forgotten and that was only several some odd decades ago


As Well all should know by now there are other forgotten civilizations under the deep ocean without a doubt judging purely based off of the ratio of what we have and have not explored in relation to geography mathematical probability.

And as most of us should always know, tectonic plates are always a' shifting, causing some land masses to fall apart or drop below sea level, while causing other land masses to erect above sea level in a plethora of other locations. You don't see it happening in real-time, but over thousands of years the world map as we see it changes and will always change dramatically. It's like a puzzle, some pieces of land mass appear to be missing while others take shape. Sea level's drop and rise, erosion occurs, evaporation etc.

In conclusion, We have a lot of work left to do to figure out what we're not seeing!
Thank you for your small effort to shine just a little ray of light onto the matter, every little bit counts, after all, every little bit will help maintain these issues to be above Eye-Level just a little bit longer


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posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 12:14 PM
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"Although it is possible that the artifacts are files in the capacious attics and basements common to all museums."

I have read the Jesmond account before. An Atlantian Mummy in a museum basement sounds like a good movie.



posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 12:19 PM
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Not only is Santorini in the wrong place at the wrong time, but it is not underwater and its civilization did not vanish, but was rebuilt.



posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 12:32 PM
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Thank you. It seems that if something is found underwater that they want to call it Atlantis.
But the Great Meteor Seamount seems to be in the correct spot and it is underwater and it has been mapped.




posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 01:55 PM
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Come to think of it does to me and London is slowly sinking

Those earlier comment's with the Nazi Flying disc's here is a web site for them to ponder that may change there perspective.
www.ufoevidence.org...
Look in the bottom right of the picture were painting of the crash of the flying object's is indicated and consider that just maybe the Nazi excavated one or more and could not reverse engineer it but were able to get it to partially function, Hmm.



posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 03:29 PM
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Tartessos is an interesting place and may be the Biblical Tarshish and maybe even Atlantis, or a left over part of it. There are some 200 underwater sites in the Med already waiting to be studied. Maybe that number will grow even more over time. History books will need to be rewritten.



posted on Apr, 25 2013 @ 09:31 PM
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What an excellent post.

What is the provenance of the original map? I only ask becuase so many of these "ancient" maps are later found to faked/dodgy.



posted on Apr, 26 2013 @ 01:53 PM
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The problem with the "fake" thing is that it matches the under water seamount which is in the same place.

This post comes from the following Sources:
Atlantis Encyclopedia by Frank Joseph;
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"Kircher was a German polymath of the 17th century and also one of the scholars to seriously investigate the Atlantis legend. Initially skeptical, he cautiously began reconsidering its credibility while assembling mythic traditions of numerous cultures in various parts of the world about a great flood. His research led him to the immense collection of source materials at the Vatican Library, where, as Europe’s foremost scholar, its formidable resources were at his disposal. It was here that he discovered a single piece of evidence which proved to him that the legend of Atlantis was actually fact.

Athanasius Kircher, was born on 2 May in either 1601 or 1602 in Geisa, Buchonia, near Fulda, currently Hesse, Germany, this Jesuit priest was also a pioneering mathematician, physicist, chemist, linguist, and archaeologist; the first to study phosphorescence; inventor of, among numerous futuristic innovations, the slide projector and a prototype of the microscope. The founding father of scientific Egyptology, he was the first serious investigation of temple hieroglyphs.

In 1665 Kircher found a well-preserved, treated-leather map purporting to show the configuration and location of Atlantis among the relatively few surviving documents from Imperial Rome in Vatican Library. The map was not Roman, but brought in the first century A.D. to Italy from Egypt, where it had been executed. It survived the demise of Classical Times, and found its way into the Vatican Library. Kircher copied it precisely, adding only a visual reference to the New World, and published it in his book, Mundus Subterraneus: The Subterranean World, in 1665. His caption states it is “a map of the island of Atlantis originally made in Egypt after Plato’s description,” which suggests it was created sometime following the 4th century B.C., perhaps by a Greek mapmaker attached to the Ptolemies. More probably, the map’s first home was the Great Library of Alexandria, where numerous books and references to Atlantis were lost, along with another million plus volumes, when the institution was burned by religious fanatics. In relocating to Rome, the map escaped that destruction.

Similar to modern conclusions forced by current understanding of geology in the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, Kircher’s map depicts Atlantis, not as a continent, but an island about the size of Spain and France combined. It shows a large, centrally located volcano, most likely meant to represent Mount Atlas, together with six major rivers, something Plato does not mention. Kritias describes large rivers on the island of Atlantis, but does not indicate how many.

Although the map vanished after Kircher’s death in 1680, it was the only known representation of Atlantis to have survived the Ancient World. Thanks to his research and book, it survives today in a close copy. Kircher was the first to publish a map of Atlantis, probably the most accurate of its kind to date. Curiously, it is depicted upside down, contrary to maps in both his day and ours. Yet, this apparent anomaly is proof of the map’s authenticity, because Egyptian mapmakers, even as late as Ptolemaic times, designed their maps with the Upper Nile Valley located in the south (“Upper” refers to its higher elevation) at the top, because the river’s headwaters are located in the Sudan."



posted on Apr, 26 2013 @ 06:48 PM
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I am not doubting the great work that has been done.

I just doubt the original map. You say it was lost, when was it found?

If it was found anytime before 1900 then I think we have a winner. The shape position, etc all match and the work done is fantastic.

I have never been a Santorini advocate because the tale came from Egypt. Egypt made the people of Santorini look like Millwall fans.



posted on Apr, 27 2013 @ 03:46 PM
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posted on Apr, 27 2013 @ 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by spiritualarchitect
His caption states it is “a map of the island of Atlantis originally made in Egypt after Plato’s description,” which suggests it was created sometime following the 4th century B.C., perhaps by a Greek mapmaker attached to the Ptolemies. More probably, the map’s first home was the Great Library of Alexandria, where numerous books and references to Atlantis were lost, along with another million plus volumes, when the institution was burned by religious fanatics. In relocating to Rome, the map escaped that destruction.


I think that, bolded, may be a mistranslation or misinterpretation, he didn't copy it, as I understood it he drew the map based on the Egyptian stories (derived from Plato), that was how he produced many of his illustrations and maps, including the incredibly accurate, retrospectively, sunken Sunda penninsula. He goes on to explain that all that remains of Atlantis are the Azores and the Canaries, hence how he came about sizing and placing it as he did. He also theorizes that volcanic eruptions may have caused it's reduction and to report on a recent eruption to support his hypothesis.

The full text can be read here...perhaps someone with a better handle on Latin can translate and clarify.

archive.org...

(Page 124)

I am a big fan of Kircher's work, and wouldn't be surprised if he was proved reasonably accurate, he had an extraordinary ability to process information from multiple sources and disciplines, though I think, withAtlantis, he may have super-sized it...



posted on Apr, 27 2013 @ 05:57 PM
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Bomber pilots taking supplies across to north africa during the war, reported seeng structures under the water in that are which resembled a sunken city, if the sea and wind conditions are right you can see a long way down from that height. It could be the missing link in the ancient types of architecture found on both sides of the atlantic.Add subduction and ice melt it certainly looks like a good spot to look for it. But if there was a substancial island there, it too must have been attached to Gwandana, so if you put the jigsaw of the continents back together is there a gap where Atlantis should fit if it were still above the waves? You can fit north of scotland to Nova scotia as they had the same fossil fauna in the bedrock. I think it could be a good fit as the original inhabitants of the canary islands thought they were the only people left after the end of the ice age,they thought the whole world drowned when the sea levels rose. they were big stone age people, that made the portuguese look small.



posted on Apr, 27 2013 @ 06:32 PM
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Yes and also near the St. Peter and St. Paul rock's which just break the surface and are the tops of sea mounts they also claimed to see buildings like sunken towns under water, at the very least it pushed settled town dwelling man back to the ice age.



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