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Originally posted by Magantice
reply to post by EarthEvolves
I would like to answer you by saying this.......Many years ago when "people" took prayer out of the schools, they decided there should be a separation between church and state. However the fight against homosexuals has largely been based on religion. No homosexual chose to be born that way. Ask hetrosexual parents why they continue to give birth to gay and lesbian children.
The thing gays and homosexuals want is equal rights under the law. If some ones life partner dies, the surviving partner would like the right to be "next of kin". These people want to be able to file a joint tax return and have the normal legal benefits that straight couples have.
Gay people fight and die for their country, they pay taxes, they fight crime, they are professionals and deserve respect as productive human beings.
Race, religion, sexuality, hair color, body type, etc etc have no place in deciding equality under the law.
There will always be father child bonding but perhaps gay men deserve that right as well.
Gay marriages can be done by a justice of the peace. Churches can decide for themselves what the Christian thing to do is.
People need to worry about serious issues like war, disease, famine etc and quit worrying about who the queen next door is or isn't married too.
Originally posted by Hopechest
Originally posted by MrSpad
Originally posted by Hopechest
Gay marriage will absolutely open the door for incestual marriage as their arguments are the exact same as the ones put forth by the homosexual community.
Whether you agree that is a good or bad thing is irrelevant, the fact is that once you tear down this wall the precedent will be set.
So people need to ask themselves if they are ready to support siblings marrying each other.
Are you kidding me? Do you think that gay people having children leads to large chance of birth defects? Because that is why we have incest laws. You what is disgusting is same argument you make now was made against allowing interacial marriages. Guess what nobody is started to marry siblings or animals then and they will not now. Because you do not want to look like a bigot you defelct the argument it to some silly fantasy. Thats like saying because we let people own guns that we will also have to let them own biological weapons. It is so far off the reservation it goes beyond common sense.
Like I said, what if the incestual couple cannot have children. How would you still deny them when they are using the same reasons to justify their union as gay couples do?
And do you really think there are not family members who have tried to marry, or are not sitting in prison for having an incestual relationship?
You really believe I didn't check that little fact before I started posting this issue? Do a simple search and you may....get ready for this...find current court cases contesting the rights for family members to marry.
Yea, it could never happen at all.
Originally posted by Maxatoria
Gay marriage is really the same as straight marriage just it takes two of the same sex rather than one of each and personally i'd say that there should be no difference in it (as approved by your local divorce lawyers) so that they can suffer the same as hetro couples should the relationship go wrong by having to spend 30k arguing over a £20 ornament
Originally posted by Hopechest
Gay marriage will absolutely open the door for incestual marriage as their arguments are the exact same as the ones put forth by the homosexual community.
Whether you agree that is a good or bad thing is irrelevant, the fact is that once you tear down this wall the precedent will be set.
So people need to ask themselves if they are ready to support siblings marrying each other.
Originally posted by thewhiteribbon
this is the thing, gay people are having children by the dozens.. im gay and have a child with a couple (Lesbian, but one is transgender female to male) and i know more than 50 children that have gay parents..
i even know single lesbians who ordered some sperm online and had a baby by themselves..
gays are reproducing in a big way.. marriage laws need to change (in my country its only civil unions)..
the posters that have talked about incest on this thread are really not very smart, and obviuosly live in little towns and have no experience with dealing with gay people or the wider world..