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Originally posted by ImNotACylon
just had to comment...
the title is not at all self explanatory.
That is all.
I await any kind of specific data concerning any aspect of the current discussion.
I also believe that there are sick people out there who are purposely exposing us to these poisons to forward their agenda of global depopulation. I won't go too far in my opinions on this agenda, but I have no doubt in my mind that this agenda exists (my opinion of course).
Originally posted by bbracken677
reply to post by Corruption Exposed
Yes...and everyone knows those were placed there by the people in control of the world.
Originally posted by Semicollegiate
I'm not against GMO on principle. It stands to reason that someday human beings will make better food than nature alone will supply us.
For instance all plants contain carcinogens. Poison is the plants only defence against being consumed by any given insect, disease, or animal.
Plants can defend themselves with mimmicry, thorns, itching, taste, and an immediate health effect. If the effect is significantlly delayed, say more than a day, the animal or even prehistoric humans would not be able to make a connection between what they ate and the effect. If a plant has any carcinogens, it is not an effective means to improve the chances of survival of its species.
Originally posted by Semicollegiate
The chemicals carcinogenic to humans are poisons to various insects. That's why any bug can't eat any plant. Bugs tend to eat a specific species of plant for chemical reasons. The plant's default defence against every herbivoric life form in the universe is some kind of poison. The carcinogenic quality is a side effect, or perhaps, an emergent property...
Plants have evolved chemicals that serve as defensive agents against predators. These chemicals may be present in the diet in amounts exceeding the residues of synthetic pesticides used to enhance agricultural productivity. Ames et al. contend that the percentage of naturally occurring chemicals testing positive for carcinogenicity in rodent bioassays does not differ significantly from the percentage of synthetic chemicals testing positive, and that these proportions are likely to hold for untested agents, leading to their conclusion that the cancer risk from natural chemicals in the diet might be greater than that from synthetics. There are, after all, many more naturally occurring chemicals than synthetic.
Overall, the basic mechanisms involved in the entire process of carcinogenesis-from exposure of the organism to expression of tumors-are qualitatively similar, if not identical, for synthetic and naturally occurring carcinogens. The committee concluded that there is no notable mechanistic difference(s) between synthetic and naturally occurring carcinogens. To assess relative potency, the committee compiled and analyzed data on over 200 carcinogens-65 of which were naturally occurring.
Originally posted by Semicollegiate
Gardening books often list insects that will prey on certain plants. Why don't those insects threaten all of the plants in the garden? Something at the chemical level is different in each plant. Some of that difference has been attributed to natural insecticide; a class of chemical potentially carcinogenic to anything that eats it regularly.
The reason for me in saying this is the time delay. If an animal eats a plant and months or years later dies from cancer, it will have no knowledge, at any level, where the cancer had been contracted. Without that knowledge it cannot selectively avoid that carcinogenic plant in the future. Therefore, the plant is no better off in being avoided in the future.